Drug Dealers

Mr.KushMan

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Listen, don't get all bent out of shape. I was just pointing out that if you get addicted to pot, well then you probably shouldnt do it. I wasnt judging, I was just making a point. And the riu and pepsi thing is a joke, apparently you didnt get it.I never said you had a weak mind. Perhaps I should have changed the "you" to "anyone." And before I had responsibilities, I too, did drugs way more often. I've never had the "need" for anything. And yes, I've even tried meth, and am proud to say I have enough control over myself to know when to say when. If you say you have a psychological dependence, Then since youre so strong of mind, and being the master of your own destiny, I say stop.Because anything going on in your mind...can be handled by your mind.I'm sorry, but in my humble opinion, psychological dependence is something thats been fed to us by the drug war propagandists, implying that even though we physically don't need it, we still havent enough control over our minds to know whats best for us. So before YOU start jumping to conclusions and thinking you're getting attacked, please get YOUR facts straight, my friend. People who yell psychological addiction are just feeding into all that anti drug DEA bullshit.If you don't want to stop, say so. But don't try to say that you can't stop because your brain won't let you.Being a strong minded person, take hold of your destiny and nip that in the bud. I wish you well.:peace:
First of all me being addicted to bud should not be a detterant to stop smoking. Just because you "feel" that it is unnecessary for you does not mean it is wrong for someone else. Did you once take a second to think, "maybe he is a med patient.""Maybe he is predisposed to addiction.""Maybe he just wants to know himself through self exploration." If you once took one second to look at these things I'm sure there are many people just like me taking THC everyday having little to no repercussions.(as I toke). Ok I understand you were not talking about me directly. When you say Ive even tried meth and i know when to say when, and im really proud of you for being able to do that, but enough of this spreading your holyer than thou crap. It is unessessary. I have had many conflicts with addiction in my life from my brother being a crackhead for 2 years, to me helping my mom stop smoking. Now my whole family smokes weed, not with eachother but we are concious of this commonality. The fact is a psychological dependence is created with in a few tokes with little time in between. I smoked one joint everyday after school one week in grade 9 and thats the story of my life.Lol. Perhaps if you don't understand what a psychological dependence is then maybe i can enlighten you.

A psychological dependence is a addiction to not just a drug but anything, let me explain. When you toke up the THC enters your blood streams, enters the brain and binds to receptors in your brain, which in turn release dopamine(a feel good). These particles of dopamine are released throughout the day during various activities, such as biking, eating chocolate, even for you pepsi or RIU. Though with a psychological dependency there is no physical withdrawl, there is a psychological trigger that tells you that there will be. This trigger can be strong or very weak, the point is when you are hooked on harder drugs that directly effects your body (crack, meth, ect.) your brain is rewired to do anything you can to get this drug. I respect your opinion and everyones who thinks that psychological dependency is a myth but it is not. It is not a physical dependence as is defined as a drug addiction. A psychological dependency is real and it is called psychological because it does not effect you but your conjure up a reason to toke again because a psychological dependence creates a "need" for you to function. I hear people all the time being like I'm better at stuff when I am high but I just look at them and say are you crazy, this is a drug don't mess around with it, this is the real world. Think about it, do you think for one second if you smoked a QP you could run faster than a car because you are better high. But it is people like you telling people that these things do not exist making them believe I can toke all I want and stop like nothing, if you are predisposed to addiction it is much harder than that. When I quit for my girl I felt like shit that day, but I got more stuff done as far as work and being with her and family goes, I had such an urge to toke I was going to hide it and smoke it but I figured that if I lie than I am no better than a person afflicted with major drug addiction, but with weed which should be alot easier to stop.

Sorry if I kinda rambled and If i had some looping thoughts

peace

There are days and wake up and just forget to toke all day, then the next day start toking again.
 

Stoney McFried

Well-Known Member
Well it wasnt a holier than thou attitude, my friend. All I am saying is...if YOU know you have a "psychological dependence", and you Know what happens in these cases, and you know why,then arent you really just saying I don't want to stop? Because ultimately, you are the master of your own ship. You know its not physical.If it makes you unhappy, and you feel bad for doing it, then you probably might be better off if you stop. Now my brother shot up most of his life.Another is an alcoholic. i should be predisposed to addiction, right? But I'm not. Not because I'm better than you. But because I know myself and I know how far I can go. But logically... if, as you explained, you know its just your all in your mind, then you can't really be addicted. Let me give you an example....I know that hitting myself with a hammer hurts. I know it doesnt make me happy. I know I don't actually physically need to do this. But I'm gonna keep doing it even though the only person stopping me from putting this hammer down is me. I'm not trying to be insulting to you. Please forgive me if this seems this way.I'm just saying.....you CAN quit if you want to. You just really don't want to. And that's fine, youre not a bad person for that.But if doing it makes you feel guilty, wouldnt you feel better if you didnt do it?
First of all me being addicted to bud should not be a detterant to stop smoking. Just because you "feel" that it is unnecessary for you does not mean it is wrong for someone else. Did you once take a second to think, "maybe he is a med patient.""Maybe he is predisposed to addiction.""Maybe he just wants to know himself through self exploration." If you once took one second to look at these things I'm sure there are many people just like me taking THC everyday having little to no repercussions.(as I toke). Ok I understand you were not talking about me directly. When you say Ive even tried meth and i know when to say when, and im really proud of you for being able to do that, but enough of this spreading your holyer than thou crap. It is unessessary. I have had many conflicts with addiction in my life from my brother being a crackhead for 2 years, to me helping my mom stop smoking. Now my whole family smokes weed, not with eachother but we are concious of this commonality. The fact is a psychological dependence is created with in a few tokes with little time in between. I smoked one joint everyday after school one week in grade 9 and thats the story of my life.Lol. Perhaps if you don't understand what a psychological dependence is then maybe i can enlighten you.

A psychological dependence is a addiction to not just a drug but anything, let me explain. When you toke up the THC enters your blood streams, enters the brain and binds to receptors in your brain, which in turn release dopamine(a feel good). These particles of dopamine are released throughout the day during various activities, such as biking, eating chocolate, even for you pepsi or RIU. Though with a psychological dependency there is no physical withdrawl, there is a psychological trigger that tells you that there will be. This trigger can be strong or very weak, the point is when you are hooked on harder drugs that directly effects your body (crack, meth, ect.) your brain is rewired to do anything you can to get this drug. I respect your opinion and everyones who thinks that psychological dependency is a myth but it is not. It is not a physical dependence as is defined as a drug addiction. A psychological dependency is real and it is called psychological because it does not effect you but your conjure up a reason to toke again because a psychological dependence creates a "need" for you to function. I hear people all the time being like I'm better at stuff when I am high but I just look at them and say are you crazy, this is a drug don't mess around with it, this is the real world. Think about it, do you think for one second if you smoked a QP you could run faster than a car because you are better high. But it is people like you telling people that these things do not exist making them believe I can toke all I want and stop like nothing, if you are predisposed to addiction it is much harder than that. When I quit for my girl I felt like shit that day, but I got more stuff done as far as work and being with her and family goes, I had such an urge to toke I was going to hide it and smoke it but I figured that if I lie than I am no better than a person afflicted with major drug addiction, but with weed which should be alot easier to stop.

Sorry if I kinda rambled and If i had some looping thoughts

peace

There are days and wake up and just forget to toke all day, then the next day start toking again.
 

HotNSexyMILF

Well-Known Member
I can't believe what I'm reading here on RIU.. does anyone seriously feel guilty for smoking?

<Stands on chair>

I smoke marijuana every single day. I am not addicted to marijuana. Marijuana heals my body and mind in a multitude of ways that no amount of doctors or pills could surpass. Smoking marijuana also makes me more creative and helps me concentrate on minute details pertaining to my creative works- namely a driving force behind my work as a seamstress. Smoking marijuana has improved my life- and I am thankful everyday for such a magickal plant.
 

Mr.KushMan

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See I am proving my own point, both of us smoke weed and can agree that it is a wonderful experience. But with you saying that i don't smoke that often so it should be easy for everyone else to be the same as me, but the fact is there are millions of boats floating in the sea and you are on one of them with other like you on it. If anyone can't understand im not gunna be any more straight forward. No i don't feel guilty and I do agree that it adds to attention to detail and is beneficial in hundreds of peoples lives every day. and my only original point is that if you sell weed in any way shape or form you are a drug dealer, though there are varying degrees of this, the government does not see it that way and it is terrible that they dont. A person selling weed in negligible amounts I would consider a person providing a healthy path to the street shit. People that sell weed with no stop, and have a gun are the people that should be charged with distribution. While lower level dealing should be dealt with minimal punishment because as far as im concerned it may be as harmless as a man making ends meet for his family.
 

Stoney McFried

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No, what I'm saying is, no matter how much you smoke, you should be able to stop if its fucking things up for you. As a teenager, I smoked every day all day. I was still able to quit.Did I want to smoke still? Yeah, because I like it, not because I needed it.And you can too, if you want.Saying its all in my mind, but I cant help it is a pretty lame excuse.I don't think you need to be exactly like me....but don't hold yourself back if theres really no reason.If you had a physical addiction, yeah, things would be tougher. But you said you don't.So the only thing stopping you from doing whatever you want is you. You CAN if you WANT to.That was my point. that's the only part of your initial post I was referring to.:peace:
See I am proving my own point, both of us smoke weed and can agree that it is a wonderful experience. But with you saying that i don't smoke that often so it should be easy for everyone else to be the same as me, but the fact is there are millions of boats floating in the sea and you are on one of them with other like you on it. If anyone can't understand im not gunna be any more straight forward. No i don't feel guilty and I do agree that it adds to attention to detail and is beneficial in hundreds of peoples lives every day. and my only original point is that if you sell weed in any way shape or form you are a drug dealer, though there are varying degrees of this, the government does not see it that way and it is terrible that they dont. A person selling weed in negligible amounts I would consider a person providing a healthy path to the street shit. People that sell weed with no stop, and have a gun are the people that should be charged with distribution. While lower level dealing should be dealt with minimal punishment because as far as im concerned it may be as harmless as a man making ends meet for his family.
 

dirtyshawa

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No, what I'm saying is, no matter how much you smoke, you should be able to stop if its fucking things up for you. As a teenager, I smoked every day all day. I was still able to quit.Did I want to smoke still? Yeah, because I like it, not because I needed it.And you can too, if you want.Saying its all in my mind, but I cant help it is a pretty lame excuse.I don't think you need to be exactly like me....but don't hold yourself back if theres really no reason.If you had a physical addiction, yeah, things would be tougher. But you said you don't.So the only thing stopping you from doing whatever you want is you. You CAN if you WANT to.That was my point. that's the only part of your initial post I was referring to.:peace:
true, but, if you want to stop and can't you are a weak individual. if we were taking about an actual drug i would be more inclined to feel sympathy for someone who is truly an addict because, of the withdraw factor(especially heroine). the difference with marijuana is the fact that it actually grows from the earth. there isn't another abused substance on earth that actually grows and is enjoyed in it's natural composition. let's be realistic, marijuana is considered a drug because, there are a lot of gullible people who fall victim to the status quo(smokers included). it's time for change and it's time for us Americans to make conscience decisions, instead of falling into the chasm of political propaganda and the interest of oil lobbyists. let me clear up my point, i'm not referring to oil, i'm referring to oil companies fueling the disenfranchisement of the marijuana plant for monetary gain. herb is only a drug because, politicians owed a dept to oil lobbyist.....i.e the oil companies. drugs kill and marijuana does not:clap::clap::clap:
 

Stoney McFried

Well-Known Member
Right...psychological addiction is bull. And lots of folks fall for it.As I said before, we're all the masters of our own destiny.
true, but, if you want to stop and can't you are a weak individual. if we were taking about an actual drug i would be more inclined to feel sympathy for someone who is truly an addict because, of the withdraw factor(especially heroine). the difference with marijuana is the fact that it actually grows from the earth. there isn't another abused substance on earth that actually grows and is enjoyed in it's natural composition. let's be realistic, marijuana is considered a drug because, there are a lot of gullible people who fall victim to the status quo(smokers included). it's time for change and it's time for us Americans to make conscience decisions, instead of falling into the chasm of political propaganda and the interest of oil lobbyists. let me clear up my point, i'm not referring to oil, i'm referring to oil companies fueling the disenfranchisement of the marijuana plant for monetary gain. herb is only a drug because, politicians owed a dept to oil lobbyist.....i.e the oil companies. drugs kill and marijuana does not:clap::clap::clap:
 

ToastedFox

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I smoke enough weed to keep me happy and have a good time, I'm not addict as I don't need it every day and have some days when I'm not a fuckin' kite.
 

mastakoosh

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i smoked weed for 10 years straight every day. i was still a good son, husband, friend or family member. i quit smoking for years for a job. just went cold turkey one day and didnt suffer one ill side effect. when i quit smoking and used other drugs such as legal pain pills and alcohol is when my life took a turn for the worse. this is peoples medicine for the terminally ill or people in chronic pain or relief for 1000 different ailments. what are the real drugs and pushers? the doctors and the pharmaceutical companies that are getting filthy rich for prescribing a pill for every ailment, that at the same time wreaks havoc on peoples bodies. the legal drugs are killing people not the herb. so if i sold a little herb to a friend in need(which i dont do anymore), i wouldnt call myself a drug dealer nor would i lose a wink of sleep. if i sold a ball of yay, to my uncle that used his kids school clothes money on, yeah i would have a guilty conscience. but i am not gonna demonize an all natural remedy that is helping millions of people.
 
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