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kagecog said:

Its true that coco has great drainage, but it still retains more water than peat based mediums so you don't have to water quite as often. As a beginner, I suggest going with a high quality potting soil mix instead of coco, it's more forgiving. Remember the KISS rule of growing, Keep It Simple, Stupid.

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Ha kiss. I do feel stupid!! What's the best mix for a soil grow. Ie perlite to posting soil ratio? Just bought 2 new clones from my buddy and they're in a 10l tub with coco mix because that's all I had. I got some seedlings that I'll put in soil once I get a good mix ratio

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kageit's said:

That's not a CalMag deficiency. Not even close. And the fact that your growing with an LED will not change the amount of calcium a plant needs. What you have is an overwatering issue, plain and simple. What soil are you currently using?? White powder on the edges of leaves could be a sign of the beginnings of a powdery mildew problem.

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how can u say its definitely over watering when u don't know how much water was given and pot size?just interested like....

Doppey said:

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how can u say its definitely over watering when u don't know how much water was given and pot size?just interested like....

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Three reasons:
1. It's got the classic leaf droop of an over watered plant
2. The grow medium is coco (many first time coco growers overwater)
3. Overwatering is one of the biggest mistakes a new grower makes. Most of us on this board are guilty of overwatering at some point when we first began growing.

The one sign of overwatering I did not see is yellowing of the leaves, but this usually occurs after overwatering has continued for an extended period of time.

oilmaker68 said:

Ha kiss. I do feel stupid!! What's the best mix for a soil grow. Ie perlite to posting soil ratio? Just bought 2 new clones from my buddy and they're in a 10l tub with coco mix because that's all I had. I got some seedlings that I'll put in soil once I get a good mix ratio

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I personally grow in FFOF with 1 part perlite for every 4 parts soil. I also add about 3-4 tablespoons of garden lime in a 5 gallon container of soil to act as an added buffer and calcium source since FFOF seems to become a bit too acidic over the course of a grow due to the peat moss.

kagecog said:

Its true that coco has great drainage, but it still retains more water than peat based mediums so you don't have to water quite as often. As a beginner, I suggest going with a high quality potting soil mix instead of coco, it's more forgiving. Remember the KISS rule of growing, Keep It Simple, Stupid.

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Have you used coco? Just a question.. 'Cause that kinda sounds like bullshit.. One of the best things about coco is it is ALMOST impossible to over water.. It is literally coconut husk or something like that, so I'm pretty sure there is no way it "retains more water than peat based mediums."

Maybe you use/used coco and know way more about this than me.. idk?

blowincherrypie said:

Have you used coco? Just a question.. 'Cause that kinda sounds like bullshit.. One of the best things about coco is it is ALMOST impossible to over water.. It is literally coconut husk or something like that, so I'm pretty sure there is no way it "retains more water than peat based mediums."

Maybe you use/used coco and know way more about this than me.. idk?

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Yes, one time I decided to grow a plant in coco alongside plants grown in my usual potting mix as an experiment and actually got an entire extra day before I had to water again compared to the regular soil mix! I didn't continue to use coco because I ended up with a pretty sickly plant, but that probably had more to do with my inexperience as a coco grower than anything else. I have no hatred for coco at all, some people do amazing growing in it! I just feel it is not great for beginners. If you look online there are various scientific studies done that show coco actually retains more water than peat, here's one if you'd like a quick read! http://flrec.ifas.ufl.edu/Hort/Environmental/Media_Nutrition/COIR potential.htm

If you are experienced in distinguishing whether watering is needed by sight and touch, then coco is almost impossible to overwater. But if you water on sort of a schedule like many people do, the plants get far more water than they need.

kagecog said:

Three reasons:
1. It's got the classic leaf droop of an over watered plant
2. The grow medium is coco (many first time coco growers overwater)
3. Overwatering is one of the biggest mistakes a new grower makes. Most of us on this board are guilty of overwatering at some point when we first began growing.

The one sign of overwatering I did not see is yellowing of the leaves, but this usually occurs after overwatering has continued for an extended period of time.



I personally grow in FFOF with 1 part perlite for every 4 parts soil. I also add about 3-4 tablespoons of garden lime in a 5 gallon container of soil to act as an added buffer and calcium source since FFOF seems to become a bit too acidic over the course of a grow due to the peat moss.

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Ok i apologize,when I viewed this thread onmy phone the pics in the op didn't come up,my bad,trying to be clever and I'm just doppey haha.personally I'm a recovering underwatererer lol