Droopy leaves, help!

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I just transplanted two plants, about 3 weeks old. I added about 2ml of tomato feed with lots of water to both, they were both due a water today. After a few hours however, one on the left however is super droopy, and the one on the right is stiff as nails.

Might the left plant be over watered or over nuted?

edit: The soil was much wetter for some reason in the left plant, so I've transplanted back into dry compost. The main rootball was still very damp but guessing i can't do much about that....
 

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OK.
You already did, what I was going to suggest.
However.
I think the pot size is, and was your problem.
If the other one is fine. I'd say it's because the drainage is better in the smaller pot. Because there's less soil, for the water to pass through.
Also, the large pot takes a lot longer for the center to dry.
I'd suggest riding this one out. Don't shock it any more.
Just go by the healthy one to monitor changes.
Water and feed the shocked one less, and less often. Until it grows into the larger pot.
I also like to make my first transplant in soil, when my seedlings are a little larger that those. May I suggest starting seeds in a 1-2 litre pot. I find I just need to water when I plant the seed to germinate. Then I don't have to add anything at all. Until they've broken ground, grown a couple nodes, and the soil's getting dry.

Best of luck mate.
Just stay calm. Ride it out.
 
Cheers mate, yeah will leave her be and fingers crossed.

Chose the larger pot to match diameter of the leaves as she was growing so much quicker and roots were thick. But yeah way too big by looks of things.

Was half tempted to scoop her out again to dry off the core but probably best to stop fiddling.
 
You may want to transplant one more time into a soil that has a better mix for aeration. Suggest you get 30% perlite mixed in.
 
Ah i used vermiculite by accident which I now realise 'retains' water, probably made it worse....

I'll give it a day I think, maybe the dry vermiculite soil i repotted in will draw some of the moisture out?
 
zubbbs said:
Cheers mate, yeah will leave her be and fingers crossed.

Chose the larger pot to match diameter of the leaves as she was growing so much quicker and roots were thick. But yeah way too big by looks of things.

Was half tempted to scoop her out again to dry off the core but probably best to stop fiddling.
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IMHO.
I think this is probably better.
You stated , you placed it in dry soil, when you transplanted.
That was ironically, probably a good move. I think waiting until the center, where the root ball is, to be dry. Then just lightly water the edges of the pot , when the plant needs it.
This'll aid in keeping the center from getting too wet, and will also encourage the roots to search for water. :peace:
 
zubbbs said:
Ah i used vermiculite by accident which I now realise 'retains' water, probably made it worse....

I'll give it a day I think, maybe the dry vermiculite soil i repotted in will draw some of the moisture out?
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That's good, vermiculite adds aeration. With a good soil mix, you have good aeration which makes overwatering your plants of little concern.
 
zubbbs said:
Ah i used vermiculite by accident which I now realise 'retains' water, probably made it worse....

I'll give it a day I think, maybe the dry vermiculite soil i repotted in will draw some of the moisture out?
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Yeah I think so.
Your other one looks very healthy really. So it's a healthy mix. Just the pots a bit big.
Transplant shock is a real killer, in plants that age. You've already transplanted twice.
If it was mine. I'd leave it.
 
Tim1987 said:
Yeah I think so.
Your other one looks very healthy really. So it's a healthy mix. Just the pots a bit big.
Transplant shock is a real killer, in plants that age. You've already transplanted twice.
If it was mine. I'd leave it.
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How are you killing plants with your transplants? I don't even get shock when I transplant mine.
 
Tim1987 said:
Dude.
You know how important pot size is, in plants that age.
I do too.
Stop being patronizing, competitive and help the OP.
This isn't about you or me.
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I transplant up 4 times on every plant. Not an issue for a young plant. Having an improper soil mix is the problem if you have oxygen deprived leaf structure and it will plague you the entire grow.
 
zubbbs said:
I just transplanted two plants, about 3 weeks old. I added about 2ml of tomato feed with lots of water to both, they were both due a water today. After a few hours however, one on the left however is super droopy, and the one on the right is stiff as nails.

Might the left plant be over watered or over nuted?

edit: The soil was much wetter for some reason in the left plant, so I've transplanted back into dry compost. The main rootball was still very damp but guessing i can't do much about that....
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The plants are gonna be ok zubbs ,just let them take all the water and then after dry out a little only give them water till the roots in the new pots have grown and start with a low EC of 0.4. Good luck man
 
Tim1987 said:
Dude.
You know how important pot size is, in plants that age.
I do too.
Stop being patronizing, competitive and help the OP.
This isn't about you or me.
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I apologize for my earlier post, it was not my intention to be patronizing or competitive. To your point, I think transplanting again this soon may very well be stressful and possibly set the plant back a few days, but I would make that choice to remedy what could be a nagging issue. Peace brother! :peace:
 
Bugeye said:
I apologize for my earlier post, it was not my intention to be patronizing or competitive. To your point, I think transplanting again this soon may very well be stressful and possibly set the plant back a few days, but I would make that choice to remedy what could be a nagging issue. Peace brother! :peace:
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No offence taken at all.:peace:
Peace to you too.
See you around mate.
Happy Easter
 
Just a quick update. 3 hours later - no noticeable improvement.

Then I decide to turn off all the lights, just as a breather, and just one hour later, MUCH better. Still a bit beaten up, but most leaves above 90 degrees now.

It could be just coincidence (the wet patch has expanded into the dry soil a bit) but I added an extra white CFL a few inches above the droopy plant before the transplant. The healthier looking plant in the smaller, drier pot was pushed to the side and had much less light.

But yeah, who knows, could be just random, but turning off the lights after overwatering transplant shock, coincided with a recovery for me.
 
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zubbbs said:
Just a quick update. 3 hours later - no noticeable improvement.

Then I decide to turn off all the lights, just as a breather, and just one hour later, MUCH better. Still a bit beaten up, but most leaves above 90 degrees now.

It could be just coincidence (the wet patch has expanded into the dry soil a bit) but I added an extra white CFL a few inches above the droopy plant before the transplant. The healthier looking plant in the smaller, drier pot was pushed to the side and had much less light.

But yeah, who knows, could be just random, but turning off the lights after overwatering transplant shock, coincided with a recovery for me.
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Just a little transplant shock mate.
The roots were shocked. The leaves were absorbing too much for your roots to handle.
I'd take another guess and say that's why it immediately got better, when you turned the light off. :peace::peace:
Happy grow.
 
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