Droopy leaves for two weeks under spider farmer sf2000

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Greybush7387

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Im experiencing. The same thing not as droopy im in straight coco transplanted from solo cups with tons of roots. Im using a optic 650 i just got 2 wks ago set 24 inches away at 60 percent power on the whites which is the the reccomendation. They were under t5s loving life with the same feed .I will switch to 25 percent and see if that helps. Ive never had a issue with coco been growing trees for 2 yrs in this medium any led growers in here with some knowledge of this. Its gotta be light stress. Im in plastic. Pots with geolite on bottom. The first week the 2 gal pots were watered through. Let them dry out until they were light then re watered last night After a week or so. Because i thought they were overwatered ,and they looked a tad better but they are starting again. Its a slight droop. Ive noticed purpleing under some plants leaves also. 1 looks like a phosphorus def but mainly look over watered. Temps got down to 57 a few night from a cracked window. But thats resolved and ime that wouldnt do much. A quarter of the gals look fine but most are not where i expected. Ppms 650 ph 5.8 plants are a foot or bigger with established root systems thanks to photosynthesis plus. So yea led growers only please im not a nub. Been doin this for 6 yrs dont need basic info, this seems like an advanced issue. Thanks in advance fellas.
 
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PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Greybush7387 said:
Im experiencing. The same thing not as droopy im in straight coco transplanted from solo cups with tons of roots. Im using a optic 650 i just got 2 wks ago set 24 inches away at 60 percent power on the whites which is the the reccomendation. They were under t5s loving life with the same feed .I will switch to 25 percent and see if that helps. Ive never had a issue with coco been growing trees for 2 yrs in this medium any led growers in here with some knowledge of this. Its gotta be light stress. Im in plastic. Pots with geolite on bottom. The first week the 2 gal pots were watered through. Let them dry out until they were light then re watered last night After a week or so. Because i thought they were overwatered ,and they looked a tad better but they are starting again. Its a slight droop. Ive noticed purpleing under some plants leaves also. 1 looks like a phosphorus def but mainly look over watered. Temps got down to 57 a few night from a cracked window. But thats resolved and ime that wouldnt do much. A quarter of the gals look fine but most are not where i expected. Ppms 650 ph 5.8 plants are a foot or bigger with established root systems thanks to photosynthesis plus. So yea led growers only please im not a nub. Been doin this for 6 yrs dont need basic info, this seems like an advanced issue. Thanks in advance fellas.
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You shouldn't let your coco dry out like that. What are your typical temps? Might be too cold, and not enough feedings.
 
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Greybush7387

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PJ Diaz said:
You shouldn't let your coco dry out like that. What are your typical temps? Might be too cold, and not enough feedings.
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a few cold night maybe but. The feedings and watering is not the culprit. do you run high powered led? Typically 75 high and 57 was the lowest rrecorded
 
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PJ Diaz

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Greybush7387 said:
a few cold night maybe but. The feedings and watering is not the culprit. do you run high powered led? Typically 75 high and 57 was the lowest rrecorded
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Yes, I use 5050 high powered diodes. I would get your temps up, and not let your coco go so long between feedings.
 
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Greybush7387

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So i dropped the light way down to 25 percent at 24 inches and everthing looks normal. The leds are stronger than i expected temps are. Stable at 70 ive always let my coco dry out Till its noticeably lighter or till the top inch is dry never had. An issue i hand water always, when you keep the medium wet. the roots dont need to look for water which will make them not grow as fast, thanks 4 your time tho
 
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PJ Diaz

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Greybush7387 said:
So i dropped the light way down to 25 percent at 24 inches and everthing looks normal. The leds are stronger than i expected temps are. Stable at 70 ive always let my coco dry out Till its noticeably lighter or till the top inch is dry never had. An issue i hand water always, when you keep the medium wet. the roots dont need to look for water which will make them not grow as fast, thanks 4 your time tho
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Have you been growing in coco long? I've been growing in coco for close to 10 years now, and I assure you that there are much better ways to irrigate your coco than hand watering and letting your coco dry out. I water 3 or 4 times a day in flower, and my root mass is solid. Coco is a hydroponics medium after all.
 
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Greybush7387

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PJ Diaz said:
Have you been growing in coco long? I've been growing in coco for close to 10 years now, and I assure you that there are much better ways to irrigate your coco than hand watering and letting your coco dry out. I water 3 or 4 times a day in flower, and my root mass is solid. Coco is a hydroponics medium after all.
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Yea been in coco for 2 yrs at least. Ive finished at least 60 plants never a issue till i switched to led. Not being rude but i know whats up thank tho. If you wanna help led tips is what i need. Please no more irrigation remarks.
 
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PJ Diaz

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Greybush7387 said:
Yea been in coco for 2 yrs at least. Ive finished at least 60 plants never a issue till i switched to led. Not being rude but i know whats up thank tho. If you wanna help led tips is what i need. Please no more irrigation remarks.
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Feeding and light are related. Good luck on your new venture.
 
getogrow

getogrow

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Greybush7387 said:
Seems to be mine. Im bout to call optic for some reccomendations
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If you are switching from hps then its a HUGE difference. Im not sure what numbers these guys want to see but a good led is WAY more then an hps.
If you started with 1 x 1k hps , then 480w of leds running very close to tghe canopy is going to be much brighter then the hps. I dont have a meter so i cant say exactly what the numbers are but the plants response to them is very easy to see....
The best advice i can give is to keep it super dim until you figure out what your strains can handle. (raise lights and keep them dim)

Im running 25w sq/ft of leds compared to 66w sq/ft of hps. i have yet to get closer then 36" from the canopy without "too much light"
 
Bakersman

Bakersman

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Hey any luck on finding the issue? I'm having the same problem. I waited for the soil (reused and ammened ocean swell) to dry out gave her 1 gal of ph tap water last night. got home from work and she is still droopy.
 
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Greybush7387

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I moved mine 24 inches away powered it down to 25 percent. And they all love my 650 s now. So raise it high and dim it if possible im only using. 200 watts to veg a 5x5 and its plenty. What light u have? If. They. Droop then its to much. Light.
 
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