Droopy leaves day after feeding

SpideyManDan said:

Im glad you pointed that out.

I wish they would have said in the beginning, "someone told me to let them really dry out", then we would have probably found the solution quicker lol

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I am not saying I wait until they are bone dry to water. I believe the issue for the drooping was overfeeding because every other plant got the same thing and didnt do that

kjiggs said:

My pots are damn near bone dry and very light after 2 days of not watering, and i do water to runoff. Every time I have waited 3+ days to water the plants they become extremely droopy and take another 2-3 days just to bounce back after being watered. I understand letting the entire soil to dry is important before watering again but is it normal to let your plants get droopy before you water? or would it be better to catch it a day earlier to avoid stressing the plant from being underwatered? Im still in my first year of growing so I am just curious.

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You mentioned you prepared 2 gallons of water, did you use all of it to water this single plant?

kjiggs said:

I am not saying I wait until they are bone dry to water. I believe the issue for the drooping was overfeeding because every other plant got the same thing and didnt do that

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Well, like ive said to others, we can comment all we want, but at the end of the day you are with youre plants and only you can tell for sure. Try something and stick to it and see if that works. Go low and go slow.

Edit: please OP, dont let everyone confuse you. Read youre plants, when you think you know what it is, implement a plan and stick to it.

kjiggs said:

A couple of my plants got droopy a day after I fed with 4TBSP Fox farm Big bloom, 2TSP Molasses, 1.5TSP Fox farm Grow big, and about .5 TBSP of ph up per 2 gallons of water testing at 6.2 ph and 1EC. using fox farm ocean forest soil, 645watt luxx light, room is always 83 degrees and 45% humidity. Any info is appreciated thanks.

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Way too much of both Fox Farm nutrients and molasses. I probably would have only used about 2t total per gallon and slowly went up. Too much molasses is very bad for plants. You don't even need a teaspoon per gallon. When I used it, I used about 1 teaspoon per 5 gallons. Most ppl I see that use molasses do more harm than good with it. Also what kind of PH meter do you have? If it's one of those cheap yellow Hanna's it's junk. Hydro shops love to make money off them and many both growers and shop owners don't know better until they see it compared to an actual accurate instrument. You can get by very easily without checking Ph. Obviously a proper Ph is much better but in many cases growers are better off just not even checking their Ph compared to using a cheap faulty meter. The General Hydroponics liquid testing kit is probably the most accurate for the very low cost. The expensive meters do require maintenance. Calibration is cheap and easy but the probes do not last forever. Even when properly stored they have to be replaced every so often.

Also I highly recommend to NEVER follow the Fox Farm feed schedule or even their recommended dose. It's far too strong for cannabis plants. Not meaning to knock them. They are a decent company and have given me a lot of success in the past when I used concentrated nutrients.

SpideyManDan said:

Well, like ive said to others, we can comment all we want, but at the end of the day you are with youre plants and only you can tell for sure. Try something and stick to it and see if that works. Go low and go slow.

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I didn't use the whole 2 gallons on one plant. I used the same nutrient mix from a few weeks ago except I went from 1/4 dose of 3 different nutrients (.5EC) to a 1/2 dose of each nutrient while increasing the flower nutrients (1EC) only because I wanted to flower soon but really I was only increasing from 1/4 to 1/2 so its not that much and only a few plants did not react well

radrolley said:

Way too much of both Fox Farm nutrients and molasses. I probably would have only used about 3-4 Teaspoons total of any FF nutrient for 2 gallons. Too much molasses is very bad for plants. You don't even need a teaspoon per gallon. When I used it, I used about 1 teaspoon per 5 gallons. Most ppl I see that use molasses do more harm than good with it. Also what kind of PH meter do you have? If it's one of those cheap yellow Hanna's it's junk. Hydro shops love to make money off them and many both growers and shop owners don't know better until they see it compared to an actual accurate instrument. You can get by very easily without checking Ph. Obviously a proper Ph is much better but in many cases growers are better off just not even checking their Ph compared to using a cheap faulty meter. The General Hydroponics liquid testing kit is probably the most accurate for the very low cost. The expensive meters do require maintenance. Calibration is cheap and easy but the probes do not last forever. Even when properly stored they have to be replaced every so often.

Also I highly recommend to NEVER follow the Fox Farm feed schedule or even their recommended dose. It's far too strong for cannabis plants. Not meaning to knock them. They are a decent company and have given me a lot of success in the past when I used concentrated nutrients.

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I am using a bluelab ph pen and EC meter. If Im in fox farm and plan on flowering soon should I just use there bloom nutrients a few weeks into flower at 1/4 dose? I also had some build a soil nutrients (buildabloom 2-10-5) that I was going to start week 2 of flower

OP, maybe this will help.

This is my Fox Farms feeding regimen, my veg recipe is:

Batch 1 & 2 Per 2 Gallons Water - Veg:
• 2 teaspoons Cal Mag
• 2 teaspoons Grow Big
• 1 tablespoon Big Bloom
• 3 teaspoons PH Down
• Add more PH Down as needed to PH = 6.50

When watering 4 plants in 3 gallon fabric pots, I use 1.5 gallons per plant, or 6 gallons each watering session.

I will mix the first 2 gallon batch, water all 4 plants, wait 30 minutes to soak, then mix batch 2 of the same recipe above. Water, wait 30 minutes.

I then mix a 3rd batch of "plain" water as follows:

Batch #3 Per 2 Gallons Water - Final Runoff:
• 2 teaspoons Cal Mag
• 3 teaspoons PH Down
• Add more PH Down as needed to PH = 6.50

I am using Fox Farms Happy Frog medium. Be careful with the Big Bloom, I use it every time I water, but I never use more than 1 tablespoon per 2 gallons or I risk damage to the plants, confirmed by trial and error.

For the flower cycle, I use the following:

Batch 1 & 2 Per 2 Gallons Water - Flower Week 1-2:
• 2 teaspoons Cal Mag
• 1 teaspoons Grow Big
• 1 teaspoon Tiger Bloom
• 1 tablespoon Big Bloom
• 2 teaspoons Humboldt Sweet and Sticky
• 3 teaspoons PH Down
• Add more PH Down as needed to PH = 6.50

Batch 1 & 2 Per 2 Gallons Water - Flower Week 3-6:
• 2 teaspoons Cal Mag
• 0 teaspoons Grow Big
• 3 teaspoon Tiger Bloom
• 1 tablespoon Big Bloom
• 2 teaspoons Humboldt Sweet and Sticky
• 3 teaspoons PH Down
• Add more PH Down as needed to PH = 6.50

Batch #3 Per 2 Gallons Water - Final Runoff:
• 2 teaspoons Cal Mag
• 3 teaspoons PH Down
• Add more PH Down as needed to PH = 6.50

During flower, I will alternate between 0 Grow Big and 1 teaspoon Grow Big, and drop the Grow Big entirely by week 6. Also maintain the clear water batch #3 for final runoff during flower and veg, this is critical to keep the roots flushed out and free of salt buildup.

kjiggs said:

I didn't use the whole 2 gallons on one plant. I used the same nutrient mix from a few weeks ago except I went from 1/4 dose of 3 different nutrients (.5EC) to a 1/2 dose of each nutrient while increasing the flower nutrients (1EC) only because I wanted to flower soon but really I was only increasing from 1/4 to 1/2 so its not that much and only a few plants did not react well

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I'm very sorry I completely misread your original post. I mistook the 4T Big Bloom for 4T Tiger Bloom LOL. I should have known as I'm pretty sure that much Tiger Bloom could be fatal.

You can easily use that much Big Bloom. You can even use more but that may be wasting it. In fact you will never burn with Big Bloom. I did a successful grow once time using ONLY Big Bloom and water with a soil that had only peat moss and perlite. Yield just was not that great.

I still think that is too much molasses. Also wanted to add I don't think it's good to store nutrient mix solution for that long. I thought I read somewhere to discard it after like 48 hours. I don't know how true it is but I always discard mine in the yard after. A plant the size in your last pic I would give about 1/4 - 1/2 gallon at a time depending on how fast it's sucking the water up. I prefer to water my plants every 2 days. You can let your plant get dry enough to start drooping before you water again. Although it is not preferred to do this, it's better than too much water.

Blue lab is a great brand IMO. When I used Fox Farm nutrients I used depending on strain in the transition phase about 1 Tbsp Big Bloom, 1 tsp of both Big Bloom and Tiger Bloom per 3/4 of a gallon. Ph to about 6.5. 5-7 gallon pots. That schedule Driver733 posted should work great. I'm not sure why they had issues with the extra Big Bloom though. Also I personal prefer to use RO water in which case one would use PH up instead of down. In soil I would skip cal mag especially if using tap or well water. Otherwise the soil should have plenty in the dolomite lime. I would also skip the sweet and sticky or any other additives.