Drooping leaves. I have a few questions.

Okay, The majority of my plants have started to droop severely. It is mainly on the top top leaves. I have them on a watering schedule of every three days and fedding them nutes every other watering. They are under 400 MH and the light is around 18 inches above them. The soil is a micture my fater has always used ( 45% perlte, 45% peat moss, and 10% miracle grow to add a little water retention). Ph of 6.7. Could the problem be that i am overwatering if i have to much retention? The pots seem to still be pretty heavy after three days. They grow area is 2 x 2 x 6. 18 light 6 dark. Any advide or direction on how to correct this would be great!
 

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Well, my gf just told me that when she feeds them (if i am away at work or out of town) That she has been using the 24-8-16 solution which has a stated feeding inteval of every 9 to 14 days. If she had been feeding them this in incorrect intervals with such a high level of nitrogen, is it possible they have nitrogen toxicity?
 

riddleme

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Yeppers they are overwatered, let em dry out and don't water on a schedule, you need to learn to read em and water and feed em when they want it

PS don't bother with moisture meter, they are crap and will not help
 
From the best info i have read, i believe it is over watering combined with over ferting.. The 24-8-16 that has been used in incorrect intervals, also has a slight amount of time released N, which is being released into the plant at the wrong times due to the overwatering.. I dont think i have a nitrogen deficiency, but with all the extra nitrogen, the plant is unable to recieve the other nutes it needs. I plan on letting the soil dry out for several days, until it actually needs to be watered, and flushing the medium out.. Once i have flushed the soil, i plan on using a new nute blend. A 30-10-10 with no time released N. I have read several other post from user "Uncle Ben" who says that this is a more than ample level of nutes for veg growth, as it focuses on foliar production. Does this seem right? Also, after i flush the medium, do i need to wait for the soil to dry out again to use the new nutes?

A question on my lighting- I had the seedlings under 2 40 watt FL for the first two weeks, the greew just fine, I had ordered (being that this is my first grow) an entire lighting system (400 HPS/MH) but it did not get here in time due to some shipping issues.. I had to move the young plants under two 250 watt heat lamps for nearly a week. I know that this is a no no but i had no choice. They did just fine, despite the lack of lumen output and this is not my concern... When i did get my light system and put my babies under the MH, it seems that they took some sort of shock, i dont really see it being heat shock, due to the fact that they were under the high infrared lights for a short time and did okay. At the moment i have the 400 MH about 18 inches above the tops of my plants. Is this okay? If not, what would be more suitable. The temperature has been sitting around 83 degrees, i know this is much to high without co2 supplementing, but i am in the process of correcting that with the right air movement and ventilation. I have also heard that a way to create some humidity was to hang industrial thickness black plastic on one of the walls to create heat. Is that a good idea, or what that just create extra and unneccessary heat? Any help would be appreciated! A total newb here.
 

smallclosetgrowr

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dude are u sure your not just taking these photos when there sleeping? cos when the lights go out they will drop, if not i would say your plants is 100% over water and is not receiving enuff oxygen to the roots ,it has nothing to do with your nutes if it was nitro toxicity your leave tips would burn
 
They have been drooped over for three days now, and the all of the point on the leaves are hardening and pointing downwards and seem to have a tiny white spec on the end of them..
 

privateaero

Active Member
flush, then wait for it to dry out again. 83 degrees isn't horribly hot and I suspect the lack of growth that you've seen is more likely because of the over watering. Newbies over fert a lot of the time, just take it easy on them, they usually don't need much.
 

baddfrog0221

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The optimum temp. for growing is 72 degrees. anything 70 to 80 is good. Ventilation is the most important part of your operation. If there is too much heat or humidity in the room the plants can have trouble breathing and have their growth stunted. I would sa get to work on creating an airflow in that room. Everything else your doing sounds really good, the watering is on track and your getting the nutrients under control. Most people forget about ventilation when they set up their room and then when they are actually growing they wonder how they can fix it and it is ten times harder to do proper venting once the plants are already going. Good luck.
 
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