Drip vs. Culture

D4rkTides

D4rkTides

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Alright, starting to do hydro, bought two different system off the net.

Typical pre-made culture system - with a Rubbermaid container


The second system I bought is the drip system General Hydroponics GH4120 WaterFarm Complete.


I've been scouring the internet for a grow guide for the drip system, but no luck. I've been able to find a guide on bubbleponics, is that the same as the culture method?

Specifically the question I am imposing, what is better for growing generally? Using good Ph levels and good nutritionals?

Also a good watering schedule as well, with doing my research I've found that 15 minutes every hour works well. Is there a downside or risk running the drip for 24 hours. What would I run the culture method at? I've learned that 24 hours works, but I could be wrong.

So please if possible can someone point me in a good direction of growing good hydro. Hopefully some kind of site or some sorts.

Thanks for the help!
 
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bseeds

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they say you need time for air for the roots to take up but i made one that ran a 1/4 inch line 24/7bottom of bucket hole in it with another 1/2 hose running back to res with air stone in res and they grow good and fast no problems
 
g1tana

g1tana

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I use bubble buckets and aqua farms, which is the larger version of the water farm and from my limited personal experience I've noticed, you have a wider birth in regards to ph swing. Also when things start to go wrong it seems to happen slower, which gives more time to react
 
skatershawn

skatershawn

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mytwhyt said:
Read this, it'll give you a better understanding of what a Waterfarm can do.. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/344359-pineapple-express-g13-labs-seed.html It's all in the first 25 pages..
Here's another thread about waterfarms and some helpful modifications you can make.. https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/119479-waterfarm-mods-tips.html
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I looked over your thread and had a question.
Do you leave it dripping 24/7?
I have a seedling roughly a week old sitting in one and she started to look like it was getting over watered; using a mild... mild solution.

Sorry OP... I Figured this was an important question to ask no matter how noobish it sounds.

Thank you!
 
Greenwhilley

Greenwhilley

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I use a home made DWC system with a top feed.
i only run the top feed until the roots are into my res.

if your water is properly oxygenated it is impossible to over water them.

I also use the large grow stones instead of hydroton.
 
skatershawn

skatershawn

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Greenwhilley said:
I use a home made DWC system with a top feed.
i only run the top feed until the roots are into my res.

if your water is properly oxygenated it is impossible to over water them.

I also use the large grow stones instead of hydroton.
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Well Im using the exact system above(second Pic) and figured the air pump pumping the solution up would oxygenate it. I can always add my other pump into the res with a stone.
And I SHOULD have used the bag of grow stones I got. I got it as a sample freebie from a local shop but wasn't sure about it as this is my first hydro grow.

But thank you for the help, and once again, forgive me op for intruding, just figured it was a helpful noob question.
 
g1tana

g1tana

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An airstone is not needed with the water farms but what you do need is an adjustable pump. What you find is that the drip ring starts to splash over small plants, I run my pump 24/7 but at lowest possible speed for a slow drip, plants love and turn it up as they grow.
 
GanjuhDubz

GanjuhDubz

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i have a waterfarm, its beast. i also leave drip ring on 24/7. Bubbleponics is where you have DWC combined with drip rings (kinda like waterfarm) but i think waterfarm uses water movement + drip for oxygen rather than straight bubbles. all the seem from what ive read but waterfarms drip rings are great for when your roots arent quite grown down into the bucket
 
KushKrew

KushKrew

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bseeds said:
they say you need time for air for the roots to take up but i made one that ran a 1/4 inch line 24/7bottom of bucket hole in it with another 1/2 hose running back to res with air stone in res and they grow good and fast no problems
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This is the standard way we do our mommies in South Africa. Clean, simple, easy to move, works super well. Just keep that airstone bubbling propa ond no probs.
 
KushKrew

KushKrew

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GanjuhDubz said:
i have a waterfarm, its beast. i also leave drip ring on 24/7. Bubbleponics is where you have DWC combined with drip rings (kinda like waterfarm) but i think waterfarm uses water movement + drip for oxygen rather than straight bubbles. all the seem from what ive read but waterfarms drip rings are great for when your roots arent quite grown down into the bucket
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Even if, in theory, the water movement in a water farm does put enough atmosphere into the water, adding an air-stone is sooooo cheap and can only do good things for your garden. Whether you need it or not, I feel it is definitely cheap enough to add as some extra care anyhow ;)

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mytwhyt

mytwhyt

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I'll let your slur on WFs slide, this time.. To learn that WF plants live on theoretical D.O. is going to be a bitter disappointment to those who have grown all those huge plants.... When I said movement of the water, I meant vertical movement.. I use what could be called, at best, a slow undercurrent recirculating system.. It's a better, modified WF pumping system.... Only hoping to add a little vertical movement to the water as it pass through...
We'll discuss your theory on D.O. when you run a WF, no plant, measure the D.O., add an air stone, measure the D.O.... I think this is just one of those cases where you reached around behind yourself and pulled out an idea.
All you DWC calm down, I'm not knocking dwc and air stones, they work and they work well... I'm just trying to build a better WF....Here's my last little girl that got by with only a drip ring...
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KushKrew

KushKrew

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mytwhyt said:
I'll let your slur on WFs slide, this time.. To learn that WF plants live on theoretical D.O. is going to be a bitter disappointment to those who have grown all those huge plants.... When I said movement of the water, I meant vertical movement.. I use what could be called, at best, a slow undercurrent recirculating system.. It's a better, modified WF pumping system.... Only hoping to add a little vertical movement to the water as it pass through...
We'll discuss your theory on D.O. when you run a WF, no plant, measure the D.O., add an air stone, measure the D.O.... I think this is just one of those cases where you reached around behind yourself and pulled out an idea.
All you DWC calm down, I'm not knocking dwc and air stones, they work and they work well... I'm just trying to build a better WF....Here's my last little girl that got by with only a drip ring...
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Touche... I did mention in a different thread that the only thing I REALLY know about is flood-and-drain so I'll admit to speaking with little personal experience, more from listening to mates' experiments, we all kinda do something different out here. I am happy to stand corrected at any point, I am infatuated with cannabis and will probably end up trying everything once.

There is no slur in discussing an IDEA mate. I do recall saying 'I feel' not 'it is' indicating an assumption arrived at via my own experience and that of my friends. It leaves everything open to refutal and is completely in the spirit of pseudo-science, which is my approach to cannabis growing, I enjoy it and it keeps my mind flexible. So instead of telling me to go do your experiment, why not share your findings in order to cement your point, kind sir? The knowledge going around will surely be of benefit to those who are really interested.

PS: Just curious, but what would the alternative be to letting it slide REALLY? Throw a tantrum, boil my bunny, curse my parents, I don't know I'm confused

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