a dog named chico
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Exactly my point, nothing more to say.
Dr Greenthumbs G13
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then don't, PLEASE !
Beansly
RIU Bulldog
more like a lot of people are following this thread (the other one that linked here).
Brick Top
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I am following the same discussion on several site too and you are right, this thread has been far more active in posts and views. But then this site does have a larger membership than some of the others do so that in part accounts for increased activity.
On some sites, while there is arguing, there is also more discussion and discussion between people who know a lot more about the true history of G13 than here. The more arguing that goes on the more it increases resulting in far more posts but far fewer post with any meaning than 'F-you' like there is so much of here thanks to there being so many bottom dwellers here who always insist on trolling and starting arguments that then get out of hand.
But what I get from the actual discussion parts, from the various boards, is that people are dubious and many are unwilling to shell out such a high price per seed on an unknown. What Dr. Greenthumb named G13 and is selling as pure and original genetics might be, and likely is, a good strain, but people are not just wanting to purchase a good strain, they want to purchase the Real McCoy and lacking true verification, and I mean true verification, many are going to hold back.
The thing is most people never grew or smoked G13. No matter how good the strain Dr. Greenthumb named G13 is, just being good will not be true verification of it being the pure genetics he is claiming it to be. Most growers would be totally without a comparative base that would allow them to grow it and smoke it and then say, yep, that's just like I used to grow and smoke. So growing it could easily get someone some good smoke, but it will never be enough for true verification of what that smoke actually is for almost all growers.
It might turn out to be the original, but it is more likely to at best be a hybrid, and if someone wants a G13 hybrid for about $5.00 to $8.00 per seed (regular seeds) they can get 18 regular G13 Widow or G13 Skunk from Mr. Nice Seeds and end up with far more female plants for their dollar ... so why risk paying such an outlandishly high price for an unknown that is likely at best a G13 hybrid when you know you can purchase known high quality G13 hybrids for WAY, WAY, WAY less money and have more female plants?
If someone is willing to make a purchase on blind faith and blind faith alone, and in the end still not know for sure if what they received is what they actually wanted, paid for and received or not ... then more power to them .. I say have at it .. go for it.
But on the various sites I am a member of and others I lurk at where this same discussion is going on there are a lot of people who are unwilling to buy a pig in a poke and then only be able to hope they got what they wanted and paid a very high price for.
Brick Top
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Head over to MNS forums and PM them and ask. They're both there .. I got a PM there from dogless yesterday so it is not like it would be difficult to contact one or both.
Dr Gruber
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I think thats a reasonable take on the matter.
I have a couple small issues with it though.
Once the many journals are done it wont be blind faith people are going on ( if the plants turn out like i think) people will want it for its merits, regardless of pedigree. Maybe not as many, but alot are still buying it now, and will continue to do so.Thats somewhat based on how many journals and such that i have seen.
And then if the hybrids you mentioned dont stack up (are there journals for these?) that would be reason enough to spend the extra money for many.
Coast captain
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As if the only people buying and growing these plants all are members on canna forums. I can't imagine how many seeds he's sold, you think cause you only see 5 grows of it on the net only 5 people are growing it, that makes Alot of sense. Some people have lives outside of the net and some people realize they don't have to mortgage their house to buys seeds even 67 dollars ones. Nothing venture nothing gained.
Dr Gruber
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I agree with everything you just said.
Hmmmmm, a lot of low lying fruit here that must be harvested before it rots:
"then more power to them .. I say have at it .. go for it" <----- reckless grammer
a pig in a poke <---speaking of poking pigs, Why does Brick Top keep pigs, surely not because he enjoys the smell of them.
that crow don't taste too bad now does it brick ? and it's LOW FAT ! not like those "crisps" you love to chow down on when you can't get owts.
Brick Top
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If 1000 people who never grew or smoked G13 ever before in their life grow the strain Dr. Greenthumb named G13 and they all give glowing reports, a 5 out of 5 star rating, and say it must be the real thing, would that in any way be actual proof that it is pure G13? NOPE, not if at least some of them had grown the real thing before and were familiar enough with it to be positive and they were among the ones who said it must be the real deal. It would still remain a case of buying a pig in a poke.
And I did not mean to sound like a hybrid would, as you put it; "stack up," to the original genetically pure G13 but it is likely that Dr. Greenthumb's G13 is a hybrid so they they would likely; "stack up" or possibly even be better, say in the case of G13 Widow. And even if they turned out to only be hybrids that are equal in quality $5.00 to $8.00 or $9.00 per seed for 18 regular seeds that would get someone more females for their dollar would still be a far better value just when it comes to price plus it would eliminate the feminized seed hermie risk.
Brick Top
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You must really be very proud of your wife to keep posting her picture over and over and over again. And as for those; "crisps" he/she is holding, well in the U.S. what you evidently call crisps are not called crisps here and for the heck of it I Googled the brand and it's a British Company and they are not sold down here in the Southeastern U.S.... but clearly they are sold in your neck of the woods since your wife, by the looks of him/her, evidently lives off them.
stonedmetalhead1
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You do realize most of the journals you see are from people who were given seeds for free don't you?
Brick Top
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Considering the looks of frmrboi's he/she wife that he keeps posting I'm sure the picture of the chicken in the background gets him hot too. It's almost certain that when frmrboi and his fat he/she wife have sex he's either thinking of the chicken in the picture .... or his favorite sheep Baaabette.
SCARHOLE
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Ive Grown free seeds from Dr Greenthumb, Paradice, Magnus Gen, DnA, Serious seeds an more in the last year.
Most people are growing free seeds from Attitude?
I get free seeds from attiude an still am shoping around else where for Hardcore breeders who make fems. (Dr GT , Sannies an others)
Cause Attitude pissed me off.
A few free seeds wont buy me off. I think Im Done with em.
Good thing I showed some restraint, don't want to kill anyone even if it is at Brick Top's expense, least not until you finish that pure, real, G13 grow.
You know Brick Top might be persuaded to part with it if you prance around in a French maid outfit at his home, he fancies that a lot.
Coast captain
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I don't care if people got free seeds. I guess you do again my point is Alot of people aren't waiting for some asshole to come on the Internet and confirm or deny if it's real or not. But then again we don't all live behind computer screens hoping to insult each other at every chance we get right? Why doesn't anyone make demand Vic high smoke sub's space queen or no one will buy tga seeds either that makes sense. Or maybe you can conduct a spiritual meeting and connect with sandy wienstien from te grave to tell you it's real g13 all these explanations are plausible and I hope every breeder gets hung out to dry until the stoner community on riu deems them worthy to buy seeds. Sounds logical right? Again the point is not everyone lives by canna forums I buy what I want but I guess when I was 14 I would have waited for someone else to tell me what to buy too.
Dr Gruber
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And do you realize how many people have told me that they paid for them and are not doing journals?
I dont really know if you point is true or not, because i have seen at least 2 journals that were paid for seeds.