Dr.Greenthumb's Freedom 35

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kindnug

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Unless it's creating actual budsites, then it could be just showing pre-flowers.
If it's a real autoflower, you could just let it do it's thing in the veg room + have extra elbow room for the flowering room.

I'm skeptical about any plant being Fully ripe in 35 days.
If there isn't ANY amber trich. on the plant @ 35 days, I wouldn't consider it done.

I hope you do prove everyone wrong!
 
Freedom35

Freedom35

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I am using just the biothrive formula at the moment to see how it would react to normal nute's so i will be adding cal/mag, diamond black, bio bud during flower, and possibly ancient forest.
and i thought that as well but 3 weeks of veg growth from seed seems a bit early to be maturing and its also growing so slow compared to the other that i assumed that was a trait of autoflower.
 
Freedom35

Freedom35

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oh sorry and the bio thrive i have both grow and bloom so far only have used the grow cause obviously the bloom id for flowering lol
 
Freedom35

Freedom35

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kindnug said:
Unless it's creating actual budsites, then it could be just showing pre-flowers.
If it's a real autoflower, you could just let it do it's thing in the veg room + have extra elbow room for the flowering room.

I'm skeptical about any plant being Fully ripe in 35 days.
If there isn't ANY amber trich. on the plant @ 35 days, I wouldn't consider it done.

I hope you do prove everyone wrong!
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well as of now its just preflowers cause they just popped out last night so its possible u are right! and yes it does seem odd but gruber grew em out and loved em so lets see if the same happens for me! and thank u i hope so too! also i promise to be fully honest about the grow as well i have had a few people think i am going to lie about the actual chop day. but idc if they are done at 50 days i will let everyone know!
 
Dr Gruber

Dr Gruber

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Freedom,
This is part of the lab report I had done on the 40 day version.... notice the comments about the trich color.


Anthers:NO
Aphids:NO
Detritus:NO
Fibers:YES
Flying Insects:NO
HairNO
HyphaeNO
Mature SeedsNO
MitesNO
MildewNO
Molds:NO
Other BugsNO
Premature SeedsNO
Residual SolventsNO
ThripsNO
Impurities Notes:N/A
Comments:The gland heads range from small to large in size and are abundant. Slightly more of them are clear than milky with a moderate amount turning amber in color.
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Dr Gruber

Dr Gruber

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My advice is to chop some of the plant at 35 and some at 45...let the bottom of the plant go 50 or beyond.
 
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kindnug

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It was fully ripe @ 40 days if there was moderate amber.

I like the idea of letting the bottom buds get some extra time with direct light.
 
Freedom35

Freedom35

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ya gruber thats actually an excellent plan! im def gonna do that, which pick did u enjoy the most? and idk if u thought i meant im picking at 50 days but what i meant to say was even IF thats wen they were done i would right it down. i for one think they will be done at 35 and totally done no questions asked at 40
 
Dr Gruber

Dr Gruber

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Freedom35 said:
ya gruber thats actually an excellent plan! im def gonna do that, which pick did u enjoy the most? and idk if u thought i meant im picking at 50 days but what i meant to say was even IF thats wen they were done i would right it down. i for one think they will be done at 35 and totally done no questions asked at 40
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I actually liked the 35 day version the best. 40 days was just about the same but 45 made it a bit more foggy. Judging by the outward appearance at 35 they look like they could use another week but the trichs looked done.

When you pick at 35 make sure to leave some of the ripest buds to go to 40 and 45 so you can compare. The lower buds will not be as ripe.​
 
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janejane820024

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Freedom35 said:
I am using just the biothrive formula at the moment to see how it would react to normal nute's so i will be adding cal/mag, diamond black, bio bud during flower, and possibly ancient forest.
and i thought that as well but 3 weeks of veg growth from seed seems a bit early to be maturing and its also growing so slow compared to the other that i assumed that was a trait of autoflower.
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I'm glad you mentioned Ancient Forest. I didn't know about it! Have you used it before?

Dr. Gruber: I believe in one of the Freedom35 threads you started you said you asked Dr. Greenthumb about the genetics and he said he didn't add Ruderalis into Freedom35. If that's true do you have an idea on why some autoflower? Could it be they are just sensitive? Can photo period strains have autoflowering traits?
 
Dr Gruber

Dr Gruber

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janejane820024 said:
I'm glad you mentioned Ancient Forest. I didn't know about it! Have you used it before?

Dr. Gruber: I believe in one of the Freedom35 threads you started you said you asked Dr. Greenthumb about the genetics and he said he didn't add Ruderalis into Freedom35. If that's true do you have an idea on why some autoflower? Could it be they are just sensitive? Can photo period strains have autoflowering traits?
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I don't really know much about the Iranian Autoflower that he uses to make the F35. I've never been interested in auto's before so ive never run them. From what ive pieced together, the IAF was found among the may Iranian cuts Doc had. It had a strange tendency to flower extremely fast even though it didnt have ruderalis in it so he called it "autoflower". I'm not sure if its a "true" auto or not but it pretty much acts that way. Im also pretty sure the IAF stays in veg under 24 hours of light as the F35 did for me when i ran them from seed.
Until Freedom had his go auto (?) I havent seen one do that from seed before, only from clone.
Doc did tell me the F35 was sensitive so i guess thats whats causing it.
 
Freedom35

Freedom35

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Dr Gruber said:
I actually liked the 35 day version the best. 40 days was just about the same but 45 made it a bit more foggy. Judging by the outward appearance at 35 they look like they could use another week but the trichs looked done.

When you pick at 35 make sure to leave some of the ripest buds to go to 40 and 45 so you can compare. The lower buds will not be as ripe.​
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ya good call ill prob pick most of it at 35 cause i like a clear high better than a foggy one anytime
 
Freedom35

Freedom35

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janejane820024 said:
I'm glad you mentioned Ancient Forest. I didn't know about it! Have you used it before?

Dr. Gruber: I believe in one of the Freedom35 threads you started you said you asked Dr. Greenthumb about the genetics and he said he didn't add Ruderalis into Freedom35. If that's true do you have an idea on why some autoflower? Could it be they are just sensitive? Can photo period strains have autoflowering traits?
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i have not used it before but it is used to create your own soil mix so it wont be on this grow but my clones will get to be a part of my new project to get my own soil mix going
 
Freedom35

Freedom35

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ok so looking at the girls this morning i noticed the plant 1's replacement is growing some roots out of its small pot so once the soil dries out a bit more (prob by the end of the day) im gonna put it in the medium bucket. and plant 2 that auto flowered seems to be forming bud sites now so i guess it is officially an auto. but this could have been my fault not the genetics.
 
Freedom35

Freedom35

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ya know i hate to jinx it but these plants are really turning out to be awesome ones! they are all growing so nicely now since my set up has been staying regular. they are also very interesting plants in the way they grow and the branching is incredible its like a bush! oh and i transplanted the smallest one(#1) to a bigger bucket and on monday i am going to transplant 3 and 4 to 5 gallon buckets. 2 will be staying in its current pot seeing as it auto'ed.
 
Dr Gruber

Dr Gruber

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Freedom35 said:
ya know i hate to jinx it but these plants are really turning out to be awesome ones! they are all growing so nicely now since my set up has been staying regular. they are also very interesting plants in the way they grow and the branching is incredible its like a bush! oh and i transplanted the smallest one(#1) to a bigger bucket and on monday i am going to transplant 3 and 4 to 5 gallon buckets. 2 will be staying in its current pot seeing as it auto'ed.
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Any pictures?
 
OLD MOTHER SATIVA

OLD MOTHER SATIVA

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i Just finished some f35
i grew smaller ones this time as opposed to tree style where i had a 1.5lb'der[not 35 days though]
…i like it at 35 days , a lot though but i let it go along with the rest i grew
it stretched very little and in the end was just about the best yielder to the bunch
they were from top to bottom golf ball to tennis ball sized and tight and sticky
i will say that at 35 days i could have esily harvested it
it was so full of buds it really needed the netting…for a sog stuffed together i do not think
you could do much better for yield.
i keep all my plants 24/7 veg
12 hrs hps/hallide then the rest just a fluro..works for me.
 
Freedom35

Freedom35

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well that is something to get my spirits up! what height did u end up flowering at? also by netting are you saying i should scrog grow it??
 
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