Dr greenthumb seeds

Hey everybody. I wanted to get a few opinions. I bought doc gear a while back and thought it sucked big time. The quality was dog shit, the strain was Iranian g13. I hear a lot of negatives from hermie issues to him not really having the elite clone only s1's that he claims to have, and about his prices being outrageous even 200 for 2 beans go "real pure g13" and the katsu cut s1. Not to mention the reviews about his CS and threats. I don't know if any of this is true.

Ive also heard good reviews but they all seem to come from the same couple people who post on every board they can. (No offense) I just use my own reasons to be skeptical from what I learn by researching and personal experience.

interested to know how others feel or other thoughts about dr greenthumb.

mixed reviews,i agree,all the good reviews do come from all the same people,so in general i say hes overrated.so many great strains out there from more reliable breeders for so much cheaper!all these new breeders just take elites and s1 them,god i could do that!

plus i have myself caught greenthumb in more than one lie and thats enough for me to stay away!

ya I don't know about their g13 dr. greenthumb claims it caim from a guy called double dutch I think it was and that guy claims it aint true. then theirs a guy on the mr. nice forum dogless sopousedly jim ortega claims hes the one who gave the cut to dr. greenthumb either way thiers no way in hell its worth $100 a seed I might pay that for a clone but your not gonna get the original plant from an S1.

i dont like paying more then 7.50 a bean, and theres plenty out there for less. i never ran his gear and never will. 100.00 bucks a bean and its a gamble, i dont think so! i personally cant justify trying them at those prices, but to each their own.....peace

I also kept an eye on at drgreenthumb...Many seeds he offers are really interesting but the prices are a joke and the reviews are very strange...Many people got ripped big time and actually if you try to get some info on drgt on some other sites your posts are deleted because they think that you are drgreenthumb spamming its own gear (who knows why )...On the other hand some very well respected members here and at the farm swear that his seeds are some of the best genetics available...Personally i get very bad vibes sourrounding this guy (starting from its prices) plus the fact that his gear is only available from his site and i can't even find the mail on that...while 98 percent of the breeders (also some smaller ones) have their seeds available on multiple sites...strange things happen around drgt ...

look,bottom line,if a guy has to pretend to be many other people to sell his beans it means he is misrepresenting,which means hes lying,which means hes really not to be trusted in the business world and seed selling is a business.
now he has this freedom 35 strain which does not finish in 35 days and even at 44 days its not done yet!not by the magnifier,so its a freedom 55 strain just like every other strain,the guy is just a plain liar,i dont care if his gear is top of the heap,i dont deal with crooks.he has usernames like biggybuds and ogman just to name 2 of them,hes a discrase to the breeding community,for fuck sakes,you give me some elite clones and ill make s1's too...it aint that hard!

chongsbuddy said:

look,bottom line,if a guy has to pretend to be many other people to sell his beans it means he is misrepresenting,which means hes lying,which means hes really not to be trusted in the business world and seed selling is a business.
now he has this freedom 35 strain which does not finish in 35 days and even at 44 days its not done yet!not by the magnifier,so its a freedom 55 strain just like every other strain,the guy is just a plain liar,i dont care if his gear is top of the heap,i dont deal with crooks.he has usernames like biggybuds and ogman just to name 2 of them,hes a discrase to the breeding community,for fuck sakes,you give me some elite clones and ill make s1's too...it aint that hard!

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All the outright lies you've been caught in Chongsbuddy and you're still at at it!?!? If anyone's a disgrace to the community it would be you. To the others who read this Dr. Gruber has done complete grow journals with photos and a smoke report of doc greenthumb's gear here and elsewhere and they're a better source of info than Chongbuddy's BS.

I loved his ghost og. It was a champ.

chongsbuddy said:

look,bottom line,if a guy has to pretend to be many other people to sell his beans it means he is misrepresenting,which means hes lying,which means hes really not to be trusted in the business world and seed selling is a business.
now he has this freedom 35 strain which does not finish in 35 days and even at 44 days its not done yet!not by the magnifier,so its a freedom 55 strain just like every other strain,the guy is just a plain liar,i dont care if his gear is top of the heap,i dont deal with crooks.he has usernames like biggybuds and ogman just to name 2 of them,hes a discrase to the breeding community,for fuck sakes,you give me some elite clones and ill make s1's too...it aint that hard!

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did you grow the 35? i personally like the buzz at 35 better then 45 and it is most certainly done or i wouldnt have cut them down. why would i want shitty weed?

I don't really care about all the drama with Dr. Gthumb. Or the prices, really. If the seeds make good plants then the seeds make good plants. That's what I care about. Talking with the guy on the phone he seemed about like people have described him. An old asshole. Personally I don't get my panties in a bunch over assholes. I like blunt and to the fucking point with business transactions. I'm not a fan of buddy buddy salesmen. The world needs assholes. The Doc seems to be filling that space.

I have never flowered any of his gear... but... I have 2 females of his G13... Yep $66.66 a seed.
You actually get 3 seeds for $200. I fucked up one germinating, but I have 1 rooted clone from each of the 2 plants and the orignal plants from seed which are being saved for potential mothers...
These 2 cuts go in to flower in a couple weeks. I'll definitely let the community know what I think. One looks more vigorous than the other.

I can say this.... normally when I take a cut from a very young plant it takes forever to root.
One cut rooted in 5 days. I couldn't believe it. The other cut was ready in 7.
With a mother plant i have had around for awhile 6 days is no big deal... pretty normal for the faster rooting plants. But a plant that had not even shown sex yet rooting in 5 days... that was pretty crazy to me. Just oasis cubes in a dome. No aero clone here.

The plants from seed are super healthy looking and growing fast. They are needing watered daily in coco. The plants around it are every other day.

From a customer service point... i have to say it was pretty good. I talked to some girl on the phone just before close... I guess she heard me wrong and sent out Iranian G13... I called daytime one day after receiving them and told Doc that I'm sending them back... send me the G13s. He said put a note in with the seeds and they'll send the correct ones. And they did. Mistakes happen. If they are willing to correct the mistake that is good customer service to me. I fucking hate the "we'll hook you up on your next order" bullshit. That pisses me off. I won't mention who, but two banks have said that to me.

I'll post when things get going. Am getting just under a lb per 600hps with some other plants... if G13 doesn't break lb/600hps i'll be a little disappointed. Looking at Grubers G13 grow... I don't think that will be a problem.

i've grown a few things from dr gt's and it's all been bomb.. his ghost cut of og kush is still in my all time top five smokes...

a member on another site was just talking about his sour d and said the smoke is better than any clone only sour d he's ever run, and his drgt's sour d run's always look pretty bomb imo..
check out dr gruber.. he's run more of dr gt's gear than anyone i know of.. complete grow journals with smoke reports backing up his claims.. i've yet to see a grow that he's not knocked out of the park..

Maybe he has great genetics and for some this is a fact (not all though)...But he has been caught spamming his gear in several forums, another fact, and many people said they sent their money and received nothing but trash or nothing at all (all trolls ??)...Is there any way that a reputable breeder could ever do theese things...? Has anyone ever seen shanti or other top breeders spamming their seeds under fake accounts ? And moreover why the hell is he keeping this policy if he has some of the very best genetics in the world ? If i had those super plants that many claim i would sell my seeds at the tude, cannazon, cc, etc... in order to expand my business...instead of that site where i can't even find the e-mail...
But leaving the drama and coming to the genetics...when a true breeder sells a pack always gives you enough seeds to find a keeper plant similar to the parents, so unless his g13 cut and his katsu are IBLs selling 2 seeds for pack (on his site 2 seeds are listed 200 not 3...maybe u got lucky having one for free heartlandhank !) is a fucking joke because of the diveristy u will find in S1s...And about his praised og how is possible for it to be far better than the CC ogs for example as they are both S1 of the original cuts and being theese so strickly related ?
With this i am NOT calling a lair who has had success wtih drgt, but i also belive that he has ripped of many people, and these are more or less the questions that float in my head about him and his policy...
And it's a pity because i was very interested in many of his strains but untill i'll see his gear on a reputable site there's no way i will grow his plants...

mrueeda said:

Maybe he has great genetics and for some this is a fact (not all though)...But he has been caught spamming his gear in several forums, another fact, and many people said they sent their money and received nothing but trash or nothing at all (all trolls ??)...Is there any way that a reputable breeder could ever do theese things...? Has anyone ever seen shanti or other top breeders spamming their seeds under fake accounts ? And moreover why the hell is he keeping this policy if he has some of the very best genetics in the world ? If i had those super plants that many claim i would sell my seeds at the tude, cannazon, cc, etc... in order to expand my business...instead of that site where i can't even find the e-mail...
But leaving the drama and coming to the genetics...when a true breeder sells a pack always gives you enough seeds to find a keeper plant similar to the parents, so unless his g13 cut and his katsu are IBLs selling 2 seeds for pack (on his site 2 seeds are listed 200 not 3...maybe u got lucky having one for free heartlandhank !) is a fucking joke because of the diveristy u will find in S1s...And about his praised og how is possible for it to be far better than the CC ogs for example as they are both S1 of the original cuts and being theese so strickly related ?
With this i am NOT calling a lair who has had success wtih drgt, but i also belive that he has ripped of many people, and these are more or less the questions that float in my head about him and his policy...
And it's a pity because i was very interested in many of his strains but untill i'll see his gear on a reputable site there's no way i will grow his plants...

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i ran cali con's pre98 bubba kush and may have gotten an ounce from one plant.. while the bud was awesome, i tossed it out of the garden after the miserable yields..
drgt's ghost cut, i got over three zips of bud i found to be equal if not better in taste and flavor and high as the pre98 bubba;s from cali connection.. just saying..

I will be getting OG Kush and Sour D.
95% of people don't realize his packs are double fem packs.
His price is right on par. $100 5 fem average.
If there is a great strain available, and you can own that strain for a few hundred, but that is too much money, you simply don't deserve it.
Lots and Lots of $5 seeds available.

The majority of negative reviews on Dr greenthumb appear to me, to be made by newbs and people that are lying or bullshitting and few pages into thread just don't make sense.
The majority of praise comes from veteran growers.

I noticed early on, the opposite is true with TGA. Now that I have been around a little bit, I have seen the light on both.
As you read through threads for awhile you see certain patterns, and certain truths surface.
Many of these cats like Racerboy could write books just on the stories that patients tell on dealing with breeders and/or seedbank companies.

mrueeda said:

Maybe he has great genetics and for some this is a fact (not all though)...But he has been caught spamming his gear in several forums, another fact, and many people said they sent their money and received nothing but trash or nothing at all (all trolls ??)...Is there any way that a reputable breeder could ever do theese things...? Has anyone ever seen shanti or other top breeders spamming their seeds under fake accounts ? And moreover why the hell is he keeping this policy if he has some of the very best genetics in the world ? If i had those super plants that many claim i would sell my seeds at the tude, cannazon, cc, etc... in order to expand my business...instead of that site where i can't even find the e-mail...
But leaving the drama and coming to the genetics...when a true breeder sells a pack always gives you enough seeds to find a keeper plant similar to the parents, so unless his g13 cut and his katsu are IBLs selling 2 seeds for pack (on his site 2 seeds are listed 200 not 3...maybe u got lucky having one for free heartlandhank !) is a fucking joke because of the diveristy u will find in S1s...And about his praised og how is possible for it to be far better than the CC ogs for example as they are both S1 of the original cuts and being theese so strickly related ?
With this i am NOT calling a lair who has had success wtih drgt, but i also belive that he has ripped of many people, and these are more or less the questions that float in my head about him and his policy...
And it's a pity because i was very interested in many of his strains but untill i'll see his gear on a reputable site there's no way i will grow his plants...

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just a couple things....
Every pack of Doc's seeds comes with 1 extra (free) seed including his G13..so everyone gets 3...everyone.
And...if you cant find his email address just enter the site and look to your left...in big letters it says.."Email Us!". just hit that link and you will have his email. If you need his physical address or phone number hit the link "order info + price".

I ran the sour d and it was really good smoke. But for 150 bucks for a 5 pack there's just way better options out there. 200 for a 3 pack of g13? GTFO! RIPOFF!

Banditt said:

I ran the sour d and it was really good smoke. But for 150 bucks for a 5 pack there's just way better options out there. 200 for a 3 pack of g13? GTFO! RIPOFF!

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Grab a calculator Banditt. $30 bucks per seed. What Sour d would you recommend? Quality is the quest for most, not cost. When I shop for seeds, I don't care about price. I hunt for what is best. If you like g13 and can't spring $200 for the best, that is hilarious! Razor blade and clone-x then you can makes thousands of g13 plants. If you do. Dr Greenthumb does not send you a bill.

What would your patient think, if you told them hey I have some sour d. It isn't as good as the stuff cuz I saved $30 on the pack of beans. Now I'm gonna run it for a year or so. Aren't you glad I saved $30 for the shittier sour d? That isn't how most of us operate. I would want the best sour d, check price at checkout.

gladstoned said:

Grab a calculator Banditt. $30 bucks per seed. What Sour d would you recommend? Quality is the quest for most, not cost. When I shop for seeds, I don't care about price. I hunt for what is best. If you like g13 and can't spring $200 for the best, that is hilarious! Razor blade and clone-x then you can makes thousands of g13 plants. If you do. Dr Greenthumb does not send you a bill.

What would your patient think, if you told them hey I have some sour d. It isn't as good as the stuff cuz I saved $30 on the pack of beans. Now I'm gonna run it for a year or so. Aren't you glad I saved $30 for the shittier sour d? That isn't how most of us operate. I would want the best sour d, check price at checkout.

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Don't be a retard. I think you understood perfectly well what I meant. There are plenty of other good sour d seeds out there that can be had for 100 or less for a 10 pack. Not 150 for a 5 pack...

Doc is obvioulsy a greedy prick. You end up with thousands of seeds when you do a full pollination of a plant. Selling them at 30 bucks a pop is greed plain and simple. Which I do not support.

mrueeda said:

Maybe he has great genetics and for some this is a fact (not all though)...But he has been caught spamming his gear in several forums, another fact, and many people said they sent their money and received nothing but trash or nothing at all (all trolls ??)...Is there any way that a reputable breeder could ever do theese things...? Has anyone ever seen shanti or other top breeders spamming their seeds under fake accounts ? And moreover why the hell is he keeping this policy if he has some of the very best genetics in the world ? If i had those super plants that many claim i would sell my seeds at the tude, cannazon, cc, etc... in order to expand my business...instead of that site where i can't even find the e-mail...
But leaving the drama and coming to the genetics...when a true breeder sells a pack always gives you enough seeds to find a keeper plant similar to the parents, so unless his g13 cut and his katsu are IBLs selling 2 seeds for pack (on his site 2 seeds are listed 200 not 3...maybe u got lucky having one for free heartlandhank !) is a fucking joke because of the diveristy u will find in S1s...And about his praised og how is possible for it to be far better than the CC ogs for example as they are both S1 of the original cuts and being theese so strickly related ?
With this i am NOT calling a lair who has had success wtih drgt, but i also belive that he has ripped of many people, and these are more or less the questions that float in my head about him and his policy...
And it's a pity because i was very interested in many of his strains but untill i'll see his gear on a reputable site there's no way i will grow his plants...

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No. Gruber and others got the same. He sends 3 seeds. I imagine it is because when paying that much for 2 seeds, if one doesn't germ you might get pissed. so list as 2, give 3, no complaints...

I hear you though man. If it's beyond what you want to spend, I understand. I've got 2 killer plants that were less than 2 bucks a seed... One that was 3.50 a seed.

You are calling me a retard? WTF is wrong with you. I swear I wish I could smack you mouthy little fucks.