Don't legalize Weed!

Micobfsb

Micobfsb

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Lately Ive been thinking, its my right to put whatever I want in my body, but I dont think society can handle drugs(hard drugs).
 
Micobfsb

Micobfsb

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Hmm, but if we decriminalize, so its legal to have, but not legal, and not legal to sell, dont we still have the black market?
 
'ome Grown

'ome Grown

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its decriminalised here in South Australia. You get a $300 fine for possession, just like a speeding ticket. And as you guessed the black market is alive and kicking.
 
BA142

BA142

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We have something on the ballot in November....this is a little blip

Here’s the twist: these local initiatives won’t just include a lowest law-enforcement priority measure. They will also make it illegal for a city to cooperate with federal authorities in the prosecution of cannabis-related crimes. What’s more, such a law is legally binding.
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so that feds can't fuck with us in WA if we pass this
 
desert dude

desert dude

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NoizeForMasses said:
In my honest opinion, I say we shouldn't legalize, BUT
DECRIMINALIZE. Think about all the tobacco companies that would get involved and turn something so harmless into something so harmful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M58kGCQLwxU
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Decriminalization is a terrible idea.

It preserves the worst of the drug war while only marginally benefiting oridnary citizens, and it distracts from the most important issue for citizens, the simple freedom of owning your own body. If you can be fined and hassled for ingesting a harmless substance, then you have no freedom at all.
 
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Rtazmann

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Probably like they've done to cigs,,,desert dude,,,,putting additives in it to cut the thc down.....they will figure out something to screw it up....
 
DST

DST

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I agree with Desert dude.

Everyone is so quick to talk about Tobacco companies when discussing legalisation.

Being a resident of the Netherlands I can tell you decriminalisation brings a whole load of difficulties with it. And yes, things still stay in the hands of criminlas, and police still raid large grow operations.

Why wouldn't legliasing weed be like the Wine market for example? Just like alcohol there is a demand for cheap alcohol, and there will be a demand for cheap weed, but there will also still remain a market for high class, organically grown, weed. In my utopia, there will be small MJ chateau's, just like there is small Wine houses.

People who do not want it legalised in my mind do not want their current status quo changed (caregivers, gorwers who make a lot of money growing weed, which is fairly standard for people, we just don't like too much change! But I think the medical MJ scene is great, but there is certainly a non Medical scene that needs to be considered as well. It is our right to get high as we please imo.
desert dude said:
Decriminalization is a terrible idea.

It preserves the worst of the drug war while only marginally benefiting oridnary citizens, and it distracts from the most important issue for citizens, the simple freedom of owning your own body. If you can be fined and hassled for ingesting a harmless substance, then you have no freedom at all.
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desert dude

desert dude

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Rtazmann said:
Probably like they've done to cigs,,,desert dude,,,,putting additives in it to cut the thc down.....they will figure out something to screw it up....
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In a free market, you get to choose what you buy and consume. I can only foresee good things happening with competition from producers.
 
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InCognition

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Decriminalization is a middle ground. You really can't have a successful middle ground when it comes to the prohibition of many substances. You would really have to both legalize and decriminalize.

It's arguable that there is a successful middle ground with alcohol in regards to private production, but alcohol is a different animal than a plant so they should be addressed differently when it comes to decriminalization/legalization.
 
dank smoker420

dank smoker420

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if it is decriminalized the government cannot make any money off of it. no money for the government no change in the law. the government is only about money. and making it
 
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bloodlocust

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Micobfsb said:
Lately Ive been thinking, its my right to put whatever I want in my body, but I dont think society can handle drugs(hard drugs).
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It's your god-given right to put whatever you want in your body HOWEVER it is subject to what kind of effect you will have on other people while you live near them. For example streets full of junkies does not inspire confidence.

You are a free man up to a point....

And that point is if your behaviour can spill over and harm other people in society. For example lets look at a small tribe of people in the jungle. They have laws too. Laws are required when humans share territory.

Animal kingdom? yes they have laws as well - and laws that change over time based on territory, behaviour, survival of the species and so on. Ours just happen to be written down and discussed :)

In the case of weed, I think it should be fully legal and available for purchase over the counter just like alcohol or cigarettes. I think that they should have testing kits for work and for drivers to ensure that smoking is restricted to the home. In fact, smoking in general should not be allowed in public except for parks or designated areas.

We don't have to force our love of pot on other people. We need to be smart about it. Prove we're smart - and people will calm down about weed murdering babies or whatever.

I'm a fairly smart person - I program games for a living, and I'm a complete and utter pot head. I love my weed, but I wouldn't dream of exposing other people, much less families and children to the harsh smell of skunk :P
 
desert dude

desert dude

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bloodlocust said:
It's your god-given right to put whatever you want in your body HOWEVER it is subject to what kind of effect you will have on other people while you live near them. For example streets full of junkies does not inspire confidence.

You are a free man up to a point....

And that point is if your behaviour can spill over and harm other people in society. For example lets look at a small tribe of people in the jungle. They have laws too. Laws are required when humans share territory.

Animal kingdom? yes they have laws as well - and laws that change over time based on territory, behaviour, survival of the species and so on. Ours just happen to be written down and discussed :)

In the case of weed, I think it should be fully legal and available for purchase over the counter just like alcohol or cigarettes. I think that they should have testing kits for work and for drivers to ensure that smoking is restricted to the home. In fact, smoking in general should not be allowed in public except for parks or designated areas.

We don't have to force our love of pot on other people. We need to be smart about it. Prove we're smart - and people will calm down about weed murdering babies or whatever.

I'm a fairly smart person - I program games for a living, and I'm a complete and utter pot head. I love my weed, but I wouldn't dream of exposing other people, much less families and children to the harsh smell of skunk :P
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Yeah, I agree.
 
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Yamabushi

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Weed should be legal for a whole host of reasons... which most of you are already aware of and most likely agree with.

However, if it were legal it would be far less profitable to grow it. So hey... either way I'm happy! If you're in the states though or any other country that sends people to prison just for a few plants you have my deepest sympathy!
 
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Broccoli Rob

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Rtazmann said:
Probably like they've done to cigs,,,desert dude,,,,putting additives in it to cut the thc down.....they will figure out something to screw it up....
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Truesay....However, weed will never be legalized because the U.S. government has no way to tax you if you grow your own. You cant grow your own cigarettes and you cant make your own beer....well I suppose you could but most wouldnt. Whats the incentive for them to legalize it? They would actually lose money on that.
 
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