Dont believe in Aliens? well explain this

Milovan

Milovan

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shhhh keep it down those are
secret missile silo's.
underwater has the best places
for those.
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Wilksey

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Glaucoma said:
I can't think of a single UFO sighting that has been removed from the Unidentified status and placed under Alien.
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By whom? Governments and nation states?

Considering the fact that pretty much EVERY major world government has, at one time at least, created and implemented teams specifically designed to research UFO/Alien encounters, and the FACT that the overwhelming majority of information obtained by said teams is STILL classified, I don't think we can rightfully make that claim.

No single nation seems to be willing to make that call. While I can certainly see why nations are willing to keep denying alien existence, I personally don't believe that choice makes sense anymore.

Between air and ground RADAR, eye witnesses, and gun camera footage, I don't think there's a developed nation out there today that DOESN'T have valid evidence of alien visitation.



Glaucoma said:
Adding a larger number of individuals and species and attitudes only weakens your stance. That would mean there is a much higher chance that at least one of these aliens would make contact with more than just 1 crazy hillbilly at a time.
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How do we know they haven't?

A LOT of people go missing each year. Thousands, in the U.S. alone. World wide, maybe hundreds of thousands. That's a LOT of muldoons that simply disappear. Even if there's a 99% "normal" explanation for each disappearance, 1% of a 100,000 is still a thousand muldoons, and that's a LOT.


Glaucoma said:
Really, the most likely explanation I can think of to support your side was written by Douglas Adams. Maybe these strange visits are in fact just rich alien kids who stole their parents' ship and are out fucking with other aliens who are less advanced.
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That could well be closer to the "truth" than anything else we've proffered as a species.

Remember that it hasn't been long since we, as a species, have had ANY considerable respect for the lives of the animals OR people we share our existence with on this rock. "Modern" culture today looks at the few remaining hunter / gatherer societies as something to be preserved, where as in the past it was ALL about exploitation. I hold the position that alien visitation sees us much in the same way.

To them, we're still fucking savages.

Can't blame em' really.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Wilksey said:
By whom? Governments and nation states?

Considering the fact that pretty much EVERY major world government has, at one time at least, created and implemented teams specifically designed to research UFO/Alien encounters, and the FACT that the overwhelming majority of information obtained by said teams is STILL classified, I don't think we can rightfully make that claim.

No single nation seems to be willing to make that call. While I can certainly see why nations are willing to keep denying alien existence, I personally don't believe that choice makes sense anymore.

Between air and ground RADAR, eye witnesses, and gun camera footage, I don't think there's a developed nation out there today that DOESN'T have valid evidence of alien visitation.

How do we know they haven't?

A LOT of people go missing each year. Thousands, in the U.S. alone. World wide, maybe hundreds of thousands. That's a LOT of muldoons that simply disappear. Even if there's a 99% "normal" explanation for each disappearance, 1% of a 100,000 is still a thousand muldoons, and that's a LOT.

That could well be closer to the "truth" than anything else we've proffered as a species.

Remember that it hasn't been long since we, as a species, have had ANY considerable respect for the lives of the animals OR people we share our existence with on this rock. "Modern" culture today looks at the few remaining hunter / gatherer societies as something to be preserved, where as in the past it was ALL about exploitation. I hold the position that alien visitation sees us much in the same way.

To them, we're still fucking savages.

Can't blame em' really.
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...This is why we pay attention in science class kids..

People like you can't fathom the vastness of space. The amount of time it takes to traverse between galaxies.. Newsflash, bud, it takes light years. I can hear your argument from here already.. "well, if they're billions of years ahead of us in technology, they must be able to break the light barrier!".... no, they can't.. the light barrier is unbreakable. Oh, it might not be? Really? Show me some evidence that supports that position. Oh, you don't have any? Well then guess what? We go by human standards of intergalactic travel. What's stopping me from saying "Yeah guys, I just saw this crazy alien species, they can travel from Saturn to Pluto to Mercury to Earth in like 1 second total!!! It's NUTS!!!!" then someone asking me "how do you know that?", then me using your retarded rhetorical "they've been around for billions of years, humans have been around for THOUSANDS of years, DUH, why would you question it, haven't you seen Star Wars?!"

Point is, before you decide to use this idiotic pseudo-justification for some insanely advanced alien race visiting Earth, you can't use some arbitrary span of time to justify your retarded belief. That's not how science works.

So unless you have any valid evidence beyond "I saw dis in mah corn feelds hur hur!! or "thousands of people go missing every year, some of them have to have been abducted by ALIENZ!!!!", I'm afraid you're a retard.
 
SageOfUrna

SageOfUrna

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they must be able to break the light barrier!".... no, they can't.. the light barrier is unbreakable. Oh, it might not be? Really? Show me some evidence that supports that position.
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Oh yeah where is your proof that you can't break the barrier? Heres my proof you ignoranus.

"An international team of scientists at the Gran Sasso research facility outside of Rome announced today that they have clocked neutrinos traveling faster than the speed of light. The neutrinos, subatomic particles with very little mass, were contained within beams emitted from CERN 730 km (500 miles) away in Switzerland. Over a period of three years, 15,000 neutrino beams were fired from CERN at special detectors located deep underground at Gran Sasso. Where light would have made the trip in 2.4 thousandths of a second, the neutrinos made it there 60 nanoseconds faster – that’s 60 billionths of a second – a tiny difference to us but a huge difference to particle physicists!"

So with that said, if humans can achieve breaking the barrier than no doubt in my mind that a higher intelligence has already achieved this.
 
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NoDrama

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Padawanbater2 said:
...This is why we pay attention in science class kids..

People like you can't fathom the vastness of space. The amount of time it takes to traverse between galaxies.. Newsflash, bud, it takes light years. I can hear your argument from here already.. "well, if they're billions of years ahead of us in technology, they must be able to break the light barrier!".... no, they can't.. the light barrier is unbreakable. Oh, it might not be? Really? Show me some evidence that supports that position. Oh, you don't have any? Well then guess what? We go by human standards of intergalactic travel. What's stopping me from saying "Yeah guys, I just saw this crazy alien species, they can travel from Saturn to Pluto to Mercury to Earth in like 1 second total!!! It's NUTS!!!!" then someone asking me "how do you know that?", then me using your retarded rhetorical "they've been around for billions of years, humans have been around for THOUSANDS of years, DUH, why would you question it, haven't you seen Star Wars?!"

Point is, before you decide to use this idiotic pseudo-justification for some insanely advanced alien race visiting Earth, you can't use some arbitrary span of time to justify your retarded belief. That's not how science works.

So unless you have any valid evidence beyond "I saw dis in mah corn feelds hur hur!! or "thousands of people go missing every year, some of them have to have been abducted by ALIENZ!!!!", I'm afraid you're a retard.
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Mars isn't that far away.

Seriously though, what dimension does light travel in?
 
Doer

Doer

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Padawanbater2 said:
...This is why we pay attention in science class kids..

People like you can't fathom the vastness of space. The amount of time it takes to traverse between galaxies.. Newsflash, bud, it takes light years. I can hear your argument from here already.. "well, if they're billions of years ahead of us in technology, they must be able to break the light barrier!".... no, they can't.. the light barrier is unbreakable. Oh, it might not be? Really? Show me some evidence that supports that position. Oh, you don't have any? Well then guess what? We go by human standards of intergalactic travel. What's stopping me from saying "Yeah guys, I just saw this crazy alien species, they can travel from Saturn to Pluto to Mercury to Earth in like 1 second total!!! It's NUTS!!!!" then someone asking me "how do you know that?", then me using your retarded rhetorical "they've been around for billions of years, humans have been around for THOUSANDS of years, DUH, why would you question it, haven't you seen Star Wars?!"

Point is, before you decide to use this idiotic pseudo-justification for some insanely advanced alien race visiting Earth, you can't use some arbitrary span of time to justify your retarded belief. That's not how science works.

So unless you have any valid evidence beyond "I saw dis in mah corn feelds hur hur!! or "thousands of people go missing every year, some of them have to have been abducted by ALIENZ!!!!", I'm afraid you're a retard.
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Quantum science understands 11 dimensions,

What dimensions are able to pass light?

Why do you think "across space" is the only way to get here?

Why do think physical projection of matter in two places at once is impossible?

Why did you flunk Heisenberg 101?

Why do you think space and time as the same for every possible creature and location?

Why do think location is bound only in 3 dimensions?

Why do you think alien visitors can only be from this dimension or some other galaxy?

Why is there not an alien star base on the dark side of the moon, for all you know?

Do you know for a fact these aliens are not already HERE and don't have sub-ocean bases.

Why do you think you know it all, college boy wannabe?
 
Doer

Doer

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SageOfUrna said:
Oh yeah where is your proof that you can't break the barrier? Heres my proof you ignoranus.

"An international team of scientists at the Gran Sasso research facility outside of Rome announced today that they have clocked neutrinos traveling faster than the speed of light. The neutrinos, subatomic particles with very little mass, were contained within beams emitted from CERN 730 km (500 miles) away in Switzerland. Over a period of three years, 15,000 neutrino beams were fired from CERN at special detectors located deep underground at Gran Sasso. Where light would have made the trip in 2.4 thousandths of a second, the neutrinos made it there 60 nanoseconds faster – that’s 60 billionths of a second – a tiny difference to us but a huge difference to particle physicists!"

So with that said, if humans can achieve breaking the barrier than no doubt in my mind that a higher intelligence has already achieved this.
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What if a higher intelligent knows better than to try it?
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Padawanbater2 said:
...This is why we pay attention in science class kids..

People like you can't fathom the vastness of space. The amount of time it takes to traverse between galaxies.. Newsflash, bud, it takes light years. I can hear your argument from here already.. "well, if they're billions of years ahead of us in technology, they must be able to break the light barrier!".... no, they can't.. the light barrier is unbreakable. Oh, it might not be? Really? Show me some evidence that supports that position. Oh, you don't have any? Well then guess what? We go by human standards of intergalactic travel. What's stopping me from saying "Yeah guys, I just saw this crazy alien species, they can travel from Saturn to Pluto to Mercury to Earth in like 1 second total!!! It's NUTS!!!!" then someone asking me "how do you know that?", then me using your retarded rhetorical "they've been around for billions of years, humans have been around for THOUSANDS of years, DUH, why would you question it, haven't you seen Star Wars?!"

Point is, before you decide to use this idiotic pseudo-justification for some insanely advanced alien race visiting Earth, you can't use some arbitrary span of time to justify your retarded belief. That's not how science works.

So unless you have any valid evidence beyond "I saw dis in mah corn feelds hur hur!! or "thousands of people go missing every year, some of them have to have been abducted by ALIENZ!!!!", I'm afraid you're a retard.
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When searching for the Higgs Boson in CERN, certain particles arrived at the detector ahead of the speed of light.
 
Doer

Doer

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Supersymmetry Hypothesis says there are as many "particles" that are faster than light as those that are slower than light.
 
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schuylaar

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Doer said:
Quantum science understands 11 dimensions,

What dimensions are able to pass light?

Why do you think "across space" is the only way to get here?

Why do think physical projection of matter in two places at once is impossible?

Why did you flunk Heisenberg 101?

Why do you think space and time as the same for every possible creature and location?

Why do think location is bound only in 3 dimensions?

Why do you think alien visitors can only be from this dimension or some other galaxy?

Why is there not an alien star base on the dark side of the moon, for all you know?

Do you know for a fact these aliens are not already HERE and don't have sub-ocean bases.

Why do you think you know it all, college boy wannabe?
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+rep

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schuylaar

Well-Known Member
SageOfUrna said:
Oh yeah where is your proof that you can't break the barrier? Heres my proof you ignoranus.

"An international team of scientists at the Gran Sasso research facility outside of Rome announced today that they have clocked neutrinos traveling faster than the speed of light. The neutrinos, subatomic particles with very little mass, were contained within beams emitted from CERN 730 km (500 miles) away in Switzerland. Over a period of three years, 15,000 neutrino beams were fired from CERN at special detectors located deep underground at Gran Sasso. Where light would have made the trip in 2.4 thousandths of a second, the neutrinos made it there 60 nanoseconds faster – that’s 60 billionths of a second – a tiny difference to us but a huge difference to particle physicists!"

So with that said, if humans can achieve breaking the barrier than no doubt in my mind that a higher intelligence has already achieved this.
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duuuuuude, duuuuuude..the only particles you NEED to worry about right now are the E-B-O-L-A particles..
 
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