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Padawanbater2 · Dec 14, 2015

Not GOP said:
Maybe we should do a poll on people who are concerned about radical Chistianity vs those more concerned about radical Islam

https://www.rollitup.org/t/is-christianity-safe.279848/

https://www.rollitup.org/t/u-s-right-wing-extremists-more-deadly-than-jihadists.824958/

NLXSK1 · Dec 14, 2015

Padawanbater2 said:
I gave you exactly what you asked for, Christian-based law - today - that is violent

There you go

What makes it christian based?

We are not allowed to judge muslims based on the barbaric actions of thousands of them yet let some redneck get drunk in kill someone in the name of jeeeeesuhs and we got a christian crusade on our hands!!! The equivalence is sickening.

OddBall1st · Dec 14, 2015

SamsonsRiddle said:
??? i just gave you quotes from the bible where god spoke in the presence of others. At jesus' baptism and at the transfiguration on the mount.

Once again you're wrong - Jesus never told paul he would talk to him but appeared to him on the road to Damascus. You need to study more

OK, I`ll be corrected on that one, Peter James and John did hear from that cloud of Light, But,....What did he say ? I think I would have spoke up if I knew that they were in doubt of what they witness.

Maybe next time I`ll say, God didn`t speak to the average Joe after Christ was born. Before that, it`s apparted he spoke with those who he knew and called upon him.

My understanding is there are people who Believe, Don`t believe and people who know. Today there are people who believe and don`t believe, Except W.

NLXSK1 · Dec 14, 2015

Padawanbater2 said:
I gave you exactly what you asked for, Christian-based law - today - that is violent

There you go

Here is the basics 'Both male and female homosexual activity is illegal. Under the Penal Code, "carnal knowledge against the order of nature" between two males carries a potential penalty of life imprisonment.'

The Ugandans dont like gay people.

Where is the Christian part of this? And life imprisonment is violent??? Do you read the examples you post or do you just link to the first google article that vaguely refers to the subject?

Not GOP · Dec 14, 2015

"Or we can all say that the problem doesn't exist, and then we will all be happy until there is a problem" -Trump

FauxRoux · Dec 14, 2015

SamsonsRiddle said:
here's an analogy. The Bible is like a huge puzzle full of piece after piece that when added together make a full picture. When you have been given a glimpse into the final picture by doing your part in collecting the pieces and uniting them, then you are at a certain point in the puzzle. When you hear other people attempting to describe the puzzle with only a few pieces (and many jammed together even though they don't fit), you can see they don't quite get it.
It's ok not to quite get it, but many mistakenly assume they know the puzzle but only have a couple corners.
Do you get what I mean?
There is so much symbolism in the bible that it takes a lifetime to get very far in it (you'll never figure it all out or it would just be the word of man), and most of the people i have come into contact with don't care about that or want to know that. They just go to church on sunday and they think god accepts that. This is the worldly perspective of god - he is who the church tells you who he is or he is who you want him to be (quarter slot god - i'll pray for a new benteley "damn god let me down again")

Well I certainly agree with you that those who claim to be of a denomination yet dont follow its teaching are full of shit and kidding themselves. Also that spiritual teaching can show 1 alot if they know how to look.

ChesusRice · Dec 14, 2015

NLXSK1 said:
Here is the basics 'Both male and female homosexual activity is illegal. Under the Penal Code, "carnal knowledge against the order of nature" between two males carries a potential penalty of life imprisonment.'

The Ugandans dont like gay people.

Where is the Christian part of this? And life imprisonment is violent??? Do you read the examples you post or do you just link to the first google article that vaguely refers to the subject?

Ugandans are majority christian

NLXSK1 · Dec 14, 2015

ChesusRice said:
Ugandans are majority christian

Would you like me to present a list of majority muslim countries where homosexuality is not only illegal but the penalty is death rather than life imprisonment?

Again, why are we trying to make equivalencies here.

People are trying to kill us and I get to hear about the crusades and the nazi's and the bad bad people at the inquisition that are very very very dead now....

Padawanbater2 · Dec 14, 2015

NLXSK1 said:
What makes it christian based?

NLXSK1 said:
Here is the basics 'Both male and female homosexual activity is illegal. Under the Penal Code, "carnal knowledge against the order of nature" between two males carries a potential penalty of life imprisonment.'

The Ugandans dont like gay people.

Where is the Christian part of this? And life imprisonment is violent??? Do you read the examples you post or do you just link to the first google article that vaguely refers to the subject?

So why don't the Ugandan's like gay people?

Padawanbater2 · Dec 14, 2015

NLXSK1 said:
Would you like me to present a list of majority muslim countries where homosexuality is not only illegal but the penalty is death rather than life imprisonment?

Again, why are we trying to make equivalencies here.

People are trying to kill us and I get to hear about the crusades and the nazi's and the bad bad people at the inquisition that are very very very dead now....

"The Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Act, 2014 (previously called the "Kill the Gays bill" in the western mainstream media due to death penalty clauses proposed in the original version) was passed by the Parliament of Uganda on 20 December 2013 with life in prison substituted for the death penalty.

The bill was signed into law by the President of Uganda on 24 February 2014. On 1 August 2014, however, the Constitutional Court of Uganda ruled the Act invalid on procedural grounds."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2014

OddBall1st · Dec 14, 2015

FauxRoux said:
What are you relying on to make that claim? have you BEEN "over there"?

I have...at length. Your description was not my experience.

Haven`t had the privilege to attend. However many I know did, say they are all running scared of the Taliban, and now ISIS. running scared and surrendering our gear to enemy aint my kinda good soldier. They also say that the locals wont lift a finger to help you find anything out or whatever you need the for. We can`t do it with nobody wanting to take blame and show face. I`m spectical of course but then I realize, They all wear masks. Why ?

OddBall1st · Dec 14, 2015

I`m not expecting any bad guys to be there when I`m done, Fuck do I need a mask for?

NLXSK1 · Dec 14, 2015

Padawanbater2 said:
"The Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Act, 2014 (previously called the "Kill the Gays bill" in the western mainstream media due to death penalty clauses proposed in the original version) was passed by the Parliament of Uganda on 20 December 2013 with life in prison substituted for the death penalty.

The bill was signed into law by the President of Uganda on 24 February 2014. On 1 August 2014, however, the Constitutional Court of Uganda ruled the Act invalid on procedural grounds."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2014

Ok, so almost being violent is equivalent to violence?

Why are we talking about Uganda? Ugandans are not blowing up planes filled with gay people or shooting up paris night clubs due to homosexuals... That would be muslims killing unbelievers across the globe.

OddBall1st · Dec 14, 2015

Unlike ISIS many if not all of the Taliban are part time hired to make some needed cash. A nice guy and his family appear swell until you learn last week that guy was Taliban for a the cash he has.

Padawanbater2 · Dec 14, 2015

OddBall1st said:
I`m not expecting any bad guys to be there when I`m done, Fuck do I need a mask for?

If you murdered every single living terrorist in the middle east tomorrow, a new batch would spring up on Wednesday

You can't defeat an ideology with bombs and bullets - the sooner Americans figure that out the better off the world will be

NLXSK1 · Dec 14, 2015

Padawanbater2 said:
If you murdered every single living terrorist in the middle east tomorrow, a new batch would spring up on Wednesday

You can't defeat an ideology with bombs and bullets - the sooner Americans figure that out the better off the world will be

But those Ugandans... Now there is a target for our rage.... LOL!!!

OddBall1st · Dec 14, 2015

I guess the rocking news is correct, there`s a shit load over there doing what needs to be done, Why else would it be taking so long. They got this........

Padawanbater2 · Dec 14, 2015

NLXSK1 said:
Ok, so almost being violent is equivalent to violence?

Why are we talking about Uganda? Ugandans are not blowing up planes filled with gay people or shooting up paris night clubs due to homosexuals... That would be muslims killing unbelievers across the globe.

Timothy McVeigh and Anders Breivik both murdered hundreds of people, both were Christian

You asked for a law based in Christianity that causes violence, I gave you a law based in Christianity that exists today as I type this that causes violence. Usually, with anyone else, this would be the part that they would concede and say "yeah, you're right, there's one right there..." instead of denying it or moving the goalposts like you're trying to do now

Bottom line, as has been thoroughly proven in this thread, is that religion in any flavor is dangerous. If you want to have a pissing contest to see which one is more dangerous today, have at it. But you won't change any of the facts that have been presented here.

FauxRoux · Dec 14, 2015

Not GOP said:
"Or we can all say that the problem doesn't exist, and then we will all be happy until there is a problem" -Trump

So your answer is to go with a guy that gives you an oversimplified answer to your problem that doesn't SOLVE said problem but allows you to continue ignoring the underlining CAUSES of the problem and go back to watching American bandstand (or its current equivalent). Fucking GENIUS!!!

Right....Cause it was our border/immigration policy that was responsible for the twin towers falling......If we had just tightened things up extremism cant hurt us and im sure these folks will get bored and quit.....brilliant

OddBall1st said:
Haven`t had the privilege to attend. However many I know did, say they are all running scared of the Taliban, and now ISIS. running scared and surrendering our gear to enemy aint my kinda good soldier. They also say that the locals wont lift a finger to help you find anything out or whatever you need the for. We can`t do it with nobody wanting to take blame and show face. I`m spectical of course but then I realize, They all wear masks. Why ?

As a soldier people want nothing to do with you regardless of whose side your on. You think the Palestinians living near the fences LIKE the the Hama's goons that kick in thier back door, fire rockets from their homes and INSURE the IDF then bulldozes it the next day? No...he hates them both.

When I was simply a civilian people were very kind and helpful. Especially when I made the effort to speak Farsi and communicate. As soon as I did usually anyone in shot joined the conversation wanting to practice their English. To ask questions. Just like almost every country ive been too.

People aren't people everywhere. Its just that people dont LIVE the same everywhere so they have different choices to make given the options available and reality they live in.

People dont all wear masks...not sure what your referencing....woman wearing a Hijab?

OddBall1st · Dec 14, 2015

Padawanbater2 said:
If you murdered every single living terrorist in the middle east tomorrow, a new batch would spring up on Wednesday

You can't defeat an ideology with bombs and bullets - the sooner Americans figure that out the better off the world will be

I don`t believe that.
I do agree guns and bullets wont do it all. but they clear the way pretty well.

I also think if you leave just one seed, They can return.

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