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Fogdog

Fogdog

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hyroot said:
Socialism is basically everyone is and gets the same everything whether they want it or not.
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hyroot said:
I'm just not going to argue with people that don't understand the differences between socialism and communism (Civil rights) and finances.
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My you are certainly mixed up. You completely misstate what is socialism, then you say you won't argue with people that don't understand the differences between socialism and communism. This makes sense in a twisted way, because what good would come from arguing with yourself?

Your definition of socialism is simply wrong. Your definition best fits communism.

under Communism individuals are provided for or compensated based on their needs, in effect meaning that in a true communist system you wouldn’t have money and you’d simply be given what the government thinks you need in terms of food, clothing, accommodation, etc. Central to socialism is that individuals are compensated for based on their individual contribution, so people that work harder or smarter would receive more than those that don’t contribute.

Citation: http://www.businessdictionary.com/article/1030/communism-vs-socialism-d1412/

This all probably is insignificant to you. Its my guess that socialism and communism are dirty words and used to inflame rather than inform. That said, if I were a socialist then my effort failed and no reward to me. On the other hand, if I were a communist, I'd still get my portion of whatever was allotted to me. If one is going to be wrong, as most times you are, its better to be a communist.

And none of this has anything to do with Obama or the ACA


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The_Herban_Legend

The_Herban_Legend

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Fogdog said:
My you are certainly mixed up. You completely misstate what is socialism, then you say you won't argue with people that don't understand the differences. This makes sense in a twisted way, because what good would come from arguing with yourself?

Your definition of socialism is simply wrong. Your definition best fits communism.

under Communism individuals are provided for or compensated based on their needs, in effect meaning that in a true communist system you wouldn’t have money and you’d simply be given what the government thinks you need in terms of food, clothing, accommodation, etc. Central to socialism is that individuals are compensated for based on their individual contribution, so people that work harder or smarter would receive more than those that don’t contribute.

Citation: http://www.businessdictionary.com/article/1030/communism-vs-socialism-d1412/

This all probably is insignificant to you. Its my guess that socialism and communism are dirty words and used to inflame rather than inform. That said, if I were a socialist then my effort failed and no reward to me. On the other hand, if I were a communist, I'd still get my portion of whatever was allotted to me. If one is going to be wrong, as most times you are, its better to be a communist.
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Easy there Gorbachev, the people of communist governments, always end up suffering. I hear North Korea is a nice destination that might suit your ideologies.
 
Fogdog

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The_Herban_Legend said:
Easy there Gorbachev, the people of communist governments, always end up suffering. I hear North Korea is a nice destination that might suit your ideologies.
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No, not a supporter of communism, just wanting people that use the term to do so correctly. I was just pointing out that if people like Hyroot wanted to waste their time or be ineffective then its better to be a communist because they'll get the same as everybody else regardless of skill or hard work.
 
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The_Herban_Legend

The_Herban_Legend

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Fogdog said:
No, not a supporter of communism, just wanting people that use the term to do so correctly. I was just pointing out that if people wanted to waste their time or be ineffective then its better to be a communist because you'll get the same as everybody else regardless of skill or hard work.
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Sorry, I misconstrued the point you were trying to make. I am pretty medicated at the moment. :bigjoint:
 
Red1966

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doublejj said:
How many times has the Donald gone bankrupt?....4-5?...is this the best credential for a president?..that's how bad he is with his own money. Just imagine what he would do with all our moneys?!.
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He went bankrupt with other people's money, too.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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ttystikk said:
As far to the right as this country has gone in the past fifty years, I think a good stiff dose of socialism is exactly what the doctor ordered!

After all, we've already had more and more and more of the same...and it's simply made things worse. THAT'S the bitter pill conservatives hate to swallow.
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So you think the country has swung to the right?
 
Red1966

Red1966

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hyroot said:
The difference is choice. If you don't get Obama care. You get fined. Obama care is mandatory for every U.S. citizen. I dont know how they're going to collect on those fines.

The military Isn't mandatory. Utilities are not mandatory either. We pay for both via taxes. Obama care is supposed to be free. But it's far from it.

Socialism is basically everyone is and gets the same everything whether they want it or not.
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Obamacare was never supposed to be free. Obamacare mandates you buy insurance. Millions of low-information Democrats read into it "FREE HEALTHCARE" where it didn't exist, substituting wishful thinking for actual facts.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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st0wandgrow said:
That's not true. The #1 reason people file for bankruptcy in America is medical bills. 62% of personal bankruptcies in fact. Of that 62%, 78% of filers had some form of medical insurance. Thus the reason we need a single payer system in this country. The staus quo is ridiculous.

You are just parroting right wing talking points about the evils of socialism. In practice it can work quite well.
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Yes, that way, when you reach the limit of your government allotted benefits, you die. Now, your expenses are transferred to others. With a single payer, there's no one to transfer expenses to.
 
PsicloneX

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see4 said:
You forked over $365,000 in taxes last year? But the IRS said you owed them $60,000 more? You are saying you owed $425,000 in personal income taxes in 2014. You earned roughly $1,280,000 last year is what you are saying. I believe you. Oh, and my cock is 17 inches long. Just sayin, dawg.


And you are 100% wrong. If you renounce your citizenship and leave this country, and go work in another country, you are no longer required to pay taxes in the United States. I'm not sure where you got your information, but you are simply wrong.
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I though you were a chick . My bad.
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-04-24/end-the-american-expat-tax. You can look up the details yourself at your leisure .
Im not going to work anywhere . 2014 wasn't as good a year as 2013 .
 
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CC Dobbs

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UncleBuck said:
wow, a self made republican millionaire who is beset at every turn by the multicultural nightmare of welfare queens.

i have literally never, ever, ever heard anyone come out with a completely fake sob story like yours.

your story is unique and compelling.

feel free to take a "vacation" to any one of these nations and never come back. you'll never get a tax bill again. caveat: diversity may exist, you poor little racist thing.

The United States maintains diplomatic relations but, according to the above-mentioned list, does not have extradition treaties with the following countries:

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Good info for the future, thanks.
 
PsicloneX

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Red1966 said:
Obamacare was never supposed to be free. Obamacare mandates you buy insurance. Millions of low-information Democrats read into it "FREE HEALTHCARE" where it didn't exist, substituting wishful thinking for actual facts.
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Not free, if you don't buy in they take your cash if you continue they take your house and then they throw you ass in jail. Progressive government policies .
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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I never understood why people avoid buying car insurance. It protects you, whoever else is in the car, whoever is in the other car and protects you from being sued for property damage.

A couple hours in the emergency room is several thousand dollars! If they have to do surgery or anything you are going to be out tens of thousands!

Not to mention you screw the other car owner out of money if you were at fault.

Just a shitty thing to do.
 
nitro harley

nitro harley

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see4 said:
I pay my taxes, and I'm ok with Obamacare. You're the one crying about it. If you hate it so much, you have the option of renouncing your citizenship and getting the fuck out of my country. Or you have the option of hanging yourself. The beauty of all this, is that you have the right to do as you wish.
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Your country? Who the fuck do you think you are? That super hero shit is fucking your brain up.
 
nitro harley

nitro harley

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The_Herban_Legend said:
The money you pay in taxes goes many places. In addition to paying the salaries of government workers, your tax dollars also help to support common resources, such as police and firefighters. Tax money also helps to ensure the roads you travel on are safe and well-maintained.

Now, unless they don't use the roads, government services, or ever need to call 911, I say yes, TAX THE FUCK OUT OF THE CROOKS!
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When people drive to church to give there gift they did pay their share of tax's to use the roads, so you are losing me. The church doesn't have wheels on it, only the tax payers that go to church have wheels on their cars.
 
The_Herban_Legend

The_Herban_Legend

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nitro harley said:
When people drive to church to give there gift they did pay their share of tax's to use the roads, so you are losing me. The church doesn't have wheels on it, only the tax payers that go to church have wheels on their cars.
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Maybe you are ignorant to the fact that church's, specifically the larger ones, pay no taxes, even though they invest the money, and have plenty of capital to pay their fair share. It's bad enough they are selling a lie to their uneducated followers. Must they rape the rest of the community by not paying their fair share of taxes? Besides, isn't that what Jesus would do?
 
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