Doggies Nuts G-13 Haze

Danielsgb

Danielsgb

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So Brick Top, seems like if you choose two IBL's somewhat similar to cross you would have some great genetics to work with. Seems better than the 'flavor of the month' strain you mention. I'm just trying to absorb this breeding knowledge, thx.
I'm going to cross this Purple Rain Cowboylogic has also grown with Super Skunk.
Daniels
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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Danielsgb said:
So Brick Top, seems like if you choose two IBL's somewhat similar to cross you would have some great genetics to work with.
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You would be dealing with much more stable genetics so that would be a real plus. If you look at the lineage of some of today's strains it is mind boggling what all is in them, how many different strains and crosses and triple crosses and back crosses that then went into making some other cross. It's no wonder why there are so many unstable genetics in the world today. When you add to that how some of the pollen chuckers use F2s in their crosses without telling people that only makes things worse. I have nothing against F2s if someone says that's what they use. Like Joey Weed .. his line is F2s, but he advertises them that way and he prices them that way and he had damn good ones from damn good original genetics, some with some very special phenotypes that can be found in his F2s, like a Cherry AK47. But some pollen chuckers took other breeders gear, made F2s and in some cases renamed them as if they were their own creation and not an F2 and when you buy their gear you get enough different phenotypes that you almost wonder if you were sent a pack of mixed strains instead of what you ordered.

Check out the strain below, look at how many different strains were crossed over time that all went into the making of the final strain:

Strain Lineage / Genealogy / Family Tree

There are a number that have a good number more strains that ended up crossed and triple crossed and back crossed and then other crosses were made that all eventually went into another new cross.

It's amazing.
 
HowzerMD

HowzerMD

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Brick Top said:
You would be dealing with much more stable genetics so that would be a real plus. If you look at the lineage of some of today's strains it is mind boggling what all is in them, how many different strains and crosses and triple crosses and back crosses that then went into making some other cross. It's no wonder why there are so many unstable genetics in the world today. When you add to that how some of the pollen chuckers use F2s in their crosses without telling people that only makes things worse. I have nothing against F2s if someone says that's what they use. Like Joey Weed .. his line is F2s, but he advertises them that way and he prices them that way and he had damn good ones from damn good original genetics, some with some very special phenotypes that can be found in his F2s, like a Cherry AK47. But some pollen chuckers took other breeders gear, made F2s and in some cases renamed them as if they were their own creation and not an F2 and when you buy their gear you get enough different phenotypes that you almost wonder if you were sent a pack of mixed strains instead of what you ordered.

Check out the strain below, look at how many different strains were crossed over time that all went into the making of the final strain:

Strain Lineage / Genealogy / Family Tree

There are a number that have a good number more strains that ended up crossed and triple crossed and back crossed and then other crosses were made that all eventually went into another new cross.

It's amazing.
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Lol. Who even knows. Keeping track of it all is a brain fart on it's own.....kinda makes ya wonder :-P
 
cowboylogic

cowboylogic

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Find yourself a keeper Northern Lights, Skunk #1 and a nice Kush and your good too go! Just playing with those 3 alone will give you years and years of breeding pleasure and pheno searching. Finding a keeper male is the true 'pot o gold'. I feel pretty lucky to have found a true purple male this year..........
 
GANJAxDUBZ

GANJAxDUBZ

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you are lucky cowboy im looking for the very exact some thing out of a 10 pack of floja. (flo x double purple doja) hopefully ill find a nice purple/pink male
 
cowboylogic

cowboylogic

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Wow lots of hate towards Nirvana. I actually like a couple of their strains. Master Kush and Snow White. Have had good luck with both the last couple of years.

And Kron I hate to say it but 10 out of 10 pop then all 10 die. Maybe 1 or 2 but all 10? Grower error by chance? I gotta tell ya I think most bashing thats blamed on genetics is more often then not an issue the grower caused, not the breeder. I do agree there is alot of crap floating around these days though. So who knows.....

Here a few shots of the LSD. Looking really nice.........day 32...

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schoolmeplz

schoolmeplz

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cowboylogic said:
Wlcome Nun, glad to have you along. Updates on the G-13 will be on Fridays. I see your lighter lacks fire just like the Cowgirls! LOL
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uh hmmmmm...clearing my throat....yea about that CL.....I know this is YOUR thread but didnt we already discuss the "no cracking on my boys" lol?
 
cowboylogic

cowboylogic

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schoolmeplz said:
uh hmmmmm...clearing my throat....yea about that CL.....I know this is YOUR thread but didnt we already discuss the "no cracking on my boys" lol?
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Since when do guys listen?LOL And I vote Dan Connelly for Pres. Did you see the big guy move!!!!!!! Play of the year no doubt. Patriots play for 60 minutes, when is the rest of the league going to realize this?
 
Kaptain Kron

Kaptain Kron

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negative man not grower error i LIKE nirvana ALOT i just dislike their black berry kush greatly its a joke. Man not growers error otherwise NONE of the other strains i had from them would have grown out because i did them all the same way every time. IDENTICALLY. IN THE SAME CAB. So its not me. I like nirvana they just shot me around to a bunch of customer reps that were under alice and it was like beating my head against a brick wall alice said she would send me 2 packs of whatever i choose to replace my one blackberry but it was too late at that point it had already been five days of dealing with this bullshit so i just canceled my CC order and they got screwed. Not cool but thats what happens when you lag and lag and lag on customer service. If you need something from nirvana make sure you talk to alice she WILL take care of you no one else there will. Trust me these seeds were so small and premature its not even funny half were green.

that being said i probably wont order from them again because i have already purchased what i want out of their stock

cowboylogic said:
Wow lots of hate towards Nirvana. I actually like a couple of their strains. Master Kush and Snow White. Have had good luck with both the last couple of years.

And Kron I hate to say it but 10 out of 10 pop then all 10 die. Maybe 1 or 2 but all 10? Grower error by chance? I gotta tell ya I think most bashing thats blamed on genetics is more often then not an issue the grower caused, not the breeder. I do agree there is alot of crap floating around these days though. So who knows.....

Here a few shots of the LSD. Looking really nice.........day 32...

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cowboylogic

cowboylogic

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Kaptain Kron said:
negative man not grower error i LIKE nirvana ALOT i just dislike their black berry kush greatly its a joke. Man not growers error otherwise NONE of the other strains i had from them would have grown out because i did them all the same way every time. IDENTICALLY. IN THE SAME CAB. So its not me. I like nirvana they just shot me around to a bunch of customer reps that were under alice and it was like beating my head against a brick wall alice said she would send me 2 packs of whatever i choose to replace my one blackberry but it was too late at that point it had already been five days of dealing with this bullshit so i just canceled my CC order and they got screwed. Not cool but thats what happens when you lag and lag and lag on customer service. If you need something from nirvana make sure you talk to alice she WILL take care of you no one else there will. Trust me these seeds were so small and premature its not even funny half were green.

that being said i probably wont order from them again because i have already purchased what i want out of their stock
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I know it didnt come across this way but that was not directed soley at you Kapt. Sorry bro. Just figured since it was a warm debate all sides should be considered. And I just used bashing too lighten things up a bit.
 
Kaptain Kron

Kaptain Kron

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haha gotcha buddy no hard feelings im still upset with nirvanas slow reaction to my needs they could have kept my money if they would have just shot me to alice instead of givin me the run around. Oh well too bad for them. Most of the stuff i want right now is from barneys farm, sensi, or Mr. Nice and tga right now i got what i needed from nirvana. Sort of lol
 
cowboylogic

cowboylogic

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Kaptain Kron said:
haha gotcha buddy no hard feelings im still upset with nirvanas slow reaction to my needs they could have kept my money if they would have just shot me to alice instead of givin me the run around. Oh well too bad for them. Most of the stuff i want right now is from barneys farm, sensi, or Mr. Nice and tga right now i got what i needed from nirvana. Sort of lol
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You called it. If you need to talk with someone. Alice at Nirvana and Rachel at Attitude......
 
Kaptain Kron

Kaptain Kron

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just curious but what happens if you get bad seed stock from attitude this is what they say regarding contacting them

PLEASE NOTE: We cannot respond to emails with reference to: growing or germination and cannot give any advice. We can only sell seeds as souvenirs or for storage in case the laws may change.

Just good to know, i really dont care as long as i get one plant that grows out of a pack even if its a male i could care less because i could use it if its worthy.
 
cowboylogic

cowboylogic

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Kaptain Kron said:
just curious but what happens if you get bad seed stock from attitude this is what they say regarding contacting them

PLEASE NOTE: We cannot respond to emails with reference to: growing or germination and cannot give any advice. We can only sell seeds as souvenirs or for storage in case the laws may change.

Just good to know, i really dont care as long as i get one plant that grows out of a pack even if its a male i could care less because i could use it if its worthy.
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The word or any form, context, use or otherwise of the word germination is Voodoo in any conversation or email. Damaged in transit are things you should be thinking about.......and let that be that. Thank you...
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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Kaptain Kron said:
just curious but what happens if you get bad seed stock from attitude this is what they say regarding contacting them

PLEASE NOTE: We cannot respond to emails with reference to: growing or germination and cannot give any advice. We can only sell seeds as souvenirs or for storage in case the laws may change.

Just good to know, i really dont care as long as i get one plant that grows out of a pack even if its a male i could care less because i could use it if its worthy.
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You have to know how to talk around the issue, to say what it needed to be said without actually saying it. I had a couple friends that has germination problems and emailed Attitude about it and were basically shot down with the we cannot talk about such things rule.

I asked them, at different times, haven't you ever watched "Goodfellas" or "The Sopranos" and noticed how they would talk about criminal acts, even murders, on the phone or in public but do it in a way that would not at all be incriminating? Something along the lines of ... I ordered several packages of your novelty items and when I inspected them, or when I attempted to try them I found there was a serious operational error evidently due to manufacturing errors ... or that were clearly damaged in shipment.

Then depending on what you are asked, like possibly order number or date etc. you give the information that is asked for but only the information that is asked for without any other filling in of details.

My friends gave it a try and they were sent a replacement order plus additional freebies.

They cannot talk germination or growing .. because it is illegal and they could be shut down. It is not an excuse to get out of helping someone with a problem, it is a way to remain in business, and they will not risk being shut down because someone insists on saying their beans would not pop or they grew like crap or whatever. Ending up with one upset customer is preferable to being shut down.

You just need to say what needs to be said in an indirect but still clear way and you will be helped. You need to follow their rule/guidelines of operation and if you won't and you do not receive help, that is your own fault. You have to play by their rules rather than make up your own and expect them to play by your rules.
 
Nunotmp

Nunotmp

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These are the emails sent to get my seeds that did not germinate replaced

Me:
"Hello I ordered a 5pack of barneys farm LSD..I received my package quick along with the ufo's and thank you but 4 out of the 5 LSD seem to be 'damaged' I gave attitude a call and they told me to email so I was wondering is there a way to get the 'damaged' seeds replaced?"

Attitude:
"Hi there

you can send back any dissatisfactory items and packaging back to us to
forward to the breeder you are unhappy with to inspect with a view to a replacement or contact
the breeder directly with your query."

Me:
Hi rachel..I sent an email to barneys farm and still waiting on a reply. I've purchased from attitude with no problem and guessing this was just a bad batch..the person I talked to on the phone(attitude) said something about sending pictures of defected seeds? I understand that you would need the product back for a replacement. But am worried about sending them back overseas..is there anyway I can get them replaced? I spent nearly $80 this time *and even got the guaranteed shipping because I trusted attitude to deliver *as you have before and don't want to feel the $80 was waisted.
Not looking for a hand out maybe 3-4 seeds just to make up for the damaged. *
***Thanks
At:
Hi there
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I understand, I will*include these with your next order.
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We can do this if you can leave a message in the customer comment box when ordering to pass to Rachel so that I can do this.
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Many Thanks
 
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