Does this exist? Canopy spacing sticks webbed throughout for support

FlyHigh589

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So one of my most annoying issues is when I hit around 5-6 weeks into bloom and then the weight of the buds starts dropping under the weight.. I grow in a storage container along each wall and it’s always a pain to properly support especially the rear branches. I have used yo-yos, scrog, and even individually tie up individual branches but with 30+ large plants in various stages in bloom, it’s difficult to always have my canopy maximized.

I regularly use trellises to support my plants frames but the problem of branches drooping under the buds weight still occurs. They all try to “flop” to the outside and because of this, their is a large gap in the center, and excesses around the outside, VASTLY reducing the lights ability to properly reach everything. It’s not with all strains that this happens, but it does seem like it happens more often than not with most strains that I grow... to some extent, some more than others, but most strains just naturally, slowly, droop, in the direction the weight pulls as the buds swell.

Because of all that, I inevitably have to tie up atleast several branches per plant, and always struggle to get it actually spaced perfectly with all branches getting maximum lighting and breathing space.

So I have the idea of using like a webbed system of individual sticks so the canopy can support itself. Ideally, I would have 3, 4, and 5 inch sticks, maybe slightly smaller than toothpicks, and on both ends, a small squeeze-clamp of sorts.. somewhere around 3-4 weeks, when all my buds have formed but still stacking calyxes, I would connect each branch around the same height, maybe 1-3 nodes below the cola, and do it in a webbed pattern so it supports itself. Then If the whole thing started to sway, i would just need to tie the frame in place to keep it in place.

I feel like this would make canopy support very easy and would keep all branches and buds nicely spaced to allow good light penetration and airflow, but as it seems like a decent idea, I’m assuming it already exists.. if so, where can I find it? If not, is it because it’s too flawed of an idea? Any idea on how to cheaply put some together? I figure each large plant I would need a solid 10 of each 3, 4, and 5 inch.

So just an idea I had. Would love to hear any feedback or constructive criticism.. more than anything, I just hate having to try to individually support branches late in bloom, trying to reach the rear branches and figure how to keep them from sagging, and am not really a fan of screening, so I figured this could be a fairly quick, easy, and re-usable method of having the canopy support itself with a series of connected sticks.

Anyhow, love to hear what you think.. stoned idea and entirely too much txt.. /end
 
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ganga gurl420

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Well that would work but sounds like a hassle. This is why a lot of people use 2 and sometimes 3 layers of trellis netting.
First layer for scrog and the other two are stacked pretty close on top for support.
 

FlyHigh589

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This sounds like a product I'd buy... possible to make though but would be time consuming to assemble and fairly expensive.
To me, it seems like it would be easier and quicker than a lot of methods I have tried..Screens take me too long and are one-time-use for me since I wet hang my full plants to dry, and trellis systems tend to allow a decent level of droopage still and without putting a decent amount of time into training, I still end up with some “dark” places like in the picture.

I feel like If they could be acquired cheaply, being reusable, it would be one 15-30 minute session per plant total.. After that, i THINK it would keep all branches properly spaced and supported. Just secure any one point of the frame and the entirety of it would be set in place... That’s the idea, at least.
 

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growingforfun

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To me, it seems like it would be easier and quicker than a lot of methods I have tried..Screens take me too long and are one-time-use for me since I wet hang my full plants to dry, and trellis systems tend to allow a decent level of droopage still and without putting a decent amount of time into training, I still end up with some “dark” places like in the picture.

I feel like If they could be acquired cheaply, being reusable, it would be one 15-30 minute session per plant total.. After that, i THINK it would keep all branches properly spaced and supported. Just secure any one point of the frame and the entirety of it would be set in place... That’s the idea, at least.
I use metal scrog screens that give great support, it does take a bit of time to cut the plants out to hang but not much, maybe 10 or 20 min per harvest to cut and hang for 2 people.
 

PJ Diaz

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I use metal scrog screens that give great support, it does take a bit of time to cut the plants out to hang but not much, maybe 10 or 20 min per harvest to cut and hang for 2 people.
Yep, steel scrog screens are great. At harvest time, you can just gut the plants at the main stem, then flip the scrog screen upside down and dry with the plants intact. Then trim dry.
 

growingforfun

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Yep, steel scrog screens are great. At harvest time, you can just gut the plants at the main stem, then flip the scrog screen upside down and dry with the plants intact. Then trim dry.
Mines too big to flip, 5x10 and 4 stage perpetual, but works great. Not too hard to cut and hang. My drying area is too small to hang full plants anyways I gotta break em down onto lines on hangers
 

PJ Diaz

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Mines too big to flip, 5x10 and 4 stage perpetual, but works great. Not too hard to cut and hang. My drying area is too small to hang full plants anyways I gotta break em down onto lines on hangers
Why not make 4 smaller screens instead of one big one? Seems like it might be more manageable that way with a perpetual grow.
 

growingforfun

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Why not make 4 smaller screens instead of one big one? Seems like it might be more manageable that way with a perpetual grow.
I've tried that but for me it wasnt a good use of space. One large screen allows me to fill it all with plants where they fit with no gaps and harvest and replace the same day with no downtime.

If it took out the whole screen I'd have to store replacement screens and spend time reattaching them to the walls.

The way I currently run it's a 5x10 sea of buds where the only gaps are on the back corners where I cant reach
 

FlyHigh589

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I use metal scrog screens that give great support, it does take a bit of time to cut the plants out to hang but not much, maybe 10 or 20 min per harvest to cut and hang for 2 people.
Yeah sadly, I’ve always had the best results doing a full plant wet hang for several days before putting them into my temp/humidity controlled room for a semi-cure/finish.

I know the idea seems a bit odd, I just feel like it could possibly be a easy, reusable, and quick way to support without the need to grow into the screen or individually tie the saggiest branches.

Everything I try to do is to hopefully save time/effort in my grow. I work 6 X 11 hour days a week and only have 2-3 hours daily and Sunday of time I can spend in my op. And since I have such a hard time saying no to new patients, I’m constantly trying to produce more and more. So I was hoping this would be a way to both save time in trying to maximize my canopy and also add a little weight from the better spacing and light penetration. Anyhow, just some thoughts.
 

Flavorcraver

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Dude those green rubber coated wire plant tie stuff... Its stiff enough to hold branchs apart especially when doubled up... Cuts and bends easy make hooks and link togeather, twist ends once situated to prepair for weight... I love that stuff use it all the time... Tall stretchy plants iv gone full 360°around making one wrap around each major branch... You can support up high and tie off like u say(incase a fan wants to blow the whole works over, iv seen it happen ha)
 
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