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does lst increase your yeilds?

racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
ok, like the title says, i was wondering if performing lst on a plant will make it out yeild the same plant in the same conditions that wasn't lst'ed?
this is my first grow trying out lst.. i didn't do it for yeild reasons, i was trying to keep the height of my garden as low as possible, but now i'm into it, i was wondering how it will affect the yeild ?
 
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disposition84

Well-Known Member
While I don't think it necessarily increases your yield, it just
helps your plant reach it's maximum potential. Normally that
undergrowth wouldn't get the best light and the nugs would
be smaller and less developed, but by spreading things out
you help to ensure that it can meet that potential.
 
bobbypyn

bobbypyn

Well-Known Member
of course it increases yield! you're getting light to way more bud surface, resulting in far more growth than if that same bud were in leaf shade. common sense. and I can attest to it, if that means anything.
 
OZUT

OZUT

Active Member
Of course it will....You'll end up with double, triple and even quadruple what you would get without lsting
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
racerboy71 said:
ok, like the title says, i was wondering if performing lst on a plant will make it out yeild the same plant in the same conditions that wasn't lst'ed?
this is my first grow trying out lst.. i didn't do it for yeild reasons, i was trying to keep the height of my garden as low as possible, but now i'm into it, i was wondering how it will affect the yeild ?
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Yes, if done right it will significantly increase your yields. It takes a bit of time and would not be a good plan for a large number of plants but if you have a few then it is a good growing strategy.
 
palerider

palerider

Active Member
I used to top them and lst but I found you sometimes have to veg them longer to get the yeild. The main plant I grow right now produces a nice big fat cola that generaly weighs twice what all the rest of the plant weighs. Why would I cut off the most productive part of the plant unless I had to? However some plants have stronger lateral growth so when you top them you get a whole bunch of colas. I would try one with the lst and one with out and see what produces the best results for that particular plant.
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
thanks for all the replies.. i kinda thought that it would increase yeilds for all the reasons that everyone said, more light getting down to areas that otherwise wouldn't recieve that amount of light, and thus making all of what would have been small popcorn buds into fuller nice sized nugs, but this being my first round of lst, i just thought that i would ask first..
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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bobbypyn said:
of course it increases yield! you're getting light to way more bud surface, resulting in far more growth than if that same bud were in leaf shade. common sense. and I can attest to it, if that means anything.
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Depends. A plant is driven by apical dominance, hormonal collections. If you can even that out and get more light to more flowering areas, it might help. You can also double harvest like I do, but you'll need leaves left on the plant when you harvest your main colas.

UB
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Uncle Ben said:
Depends. A plant is driven by apical dominance, hormonal collections. If you can even that out and get more light to more flowering areas, it might help. You can also double harvest like I do, but you'll need leaves left on the plant when you harvest your main colas.

UB
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how do you double harvest ub? just re veg her after your first round of buds are done, or is there another way?
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Uncle Ben said:
Harvest the bulked up colas, put the plant back under lights and harvest the lower stuff when it's ready.
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nice.. thanks for the tip ub.. i usually try and do this all of the time anyhoo's.. it always seems like one part of my plants want to mature faster than other parts of the plants, so i take the ones that look done first and let the others go.. i just didn't realize that this was called double harvesting..
 
bobbypyn

bobbypyn

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Uncle Ben said:
Harvest the bulked up colas, put the plant back under lights and harvest the lower stuff when it's ready.
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yeah, thats especially effective with sativa doms with monster leaves. the lower stuff ripens right up once exposed to full light. good tip! But Ben, I still say it has to increase yield. you know bending those apical branches disperses the growth whoremoan(?) but without disrupting the main growth. how could it not?
 
bobbypyn

bobbypyn

Well-Known Member
palerider said:
I used to top them and lst but I found you sometimes have to veg them longer to get the yeild. The main plant I grow right now produces a nice big fat cola that generaly weighs twice what all the rest of the plant weighs. Why would I cut off the most productive part of the plant unless I had to? However some plants have stronger lateral growth so when you top them you get a whole bunch of colas. I would try one with the lst and one with out and see what produces the best results for that particular plant.
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very true as well. Purple Kush just WANTS to lollipop; it's kinda weird. Haze crosses tend to go apeshit after topping though. at least that's what I've observed.
 
teddiekgb123

teddiekgb123

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I think lst is more about increasing your yield/quality per plant which is useful if you are growing legally. Say you fill up 2ftx2ft of canopy with each lst'd plant..... you could fill an 8x4 area with just eight plants, but ya had to veg for 4-6 weeks. If numbers don't matter, then you could do a sea of green with 2-4 plants per sq ft and have almost zero veg time. You'll probably yield the same if not a little more and it took a third less time.
 
teddiekgb123

teddiekgb123

Well-Known Member
...and of course your genetics have to match up with your technique. Lst likes bushy plants and sog likes main cola plants like palerider's from the previous page
 
budlover13

budlover13

King Tut
LST helps increase yield through the re-distibution of auxins from what I've read. A plant knows which cola is the tallest and concentrates auxins to that, increasing growth. You are basically tricking your plant into sending those auxins to other budsites when you tie down the tallest cola.
 
teddiekgb123

teddiekgb123

Well-Known Member
budlover13 said:
LST helps increase yield through the re-distibution of auxins from what I've read. A plant knows which cola is the tallest and concentrates auxins to that, increasing growth. You are basically tricking your plant into sending those auxins to other budsites when you tie down the tallest cola.
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You are right, kinda vague on the "why" though. Re-distributing the auxins is more for making the lower branches stretch upward toward the canopy during veg and the flowering stretch to give you more budsites per plant......thereby increasing your yields. And yes also because the auxins are spread out and all the buds receive more even light.
 
budlover13

budlover13

King Tut
Thank you for clarifying that teddie! I started LST on my current(2nd) grow and at first thought I had hurt my yield. Now I have 3-5 fat colas per plant. Not as big as a king cola, but respectable nonetheless. I'll have to wait until harves to see weight, but from appearances I think I'm a little heavier than my first. That being said, it has in no way been a controlled experiment as I have also played with soil and nutes.
 
teddiekgb123

teddiekgb123

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ya no problem budlover. I hope I didn't seem short with you, I was just in a hurry. Good luck with your grow and I like your sig.
 
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