DoeEyed's Perpetual Grow Log

#1Raiderfan420

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Thanks! It took two weeks for the clones to root - least where I could see it anyway, lol. I'm sure I could do better, once I get some practice in. My new flower room is 15Lx15Wx8H - not quite the size you were thinking, but still decent enough. I don't know about the power bill - haven't had a 1000w at all, or hell even a 600w, before now. But for the pair of 400's, plus 648w (actual) of CFL's and six fans, a couple air purifiers, and two space heaters set on low, the light bill went up about $120 a month.
Well get ready for a bigger bill. lol I am sure you are aware of that. I wasn't ready for a 500+ increase with my two 1000s. I actually got a medical allowance from my power company. It is worth a shot if you can get a doctor to say you require extra heat and cooling due to your medical condition. I have disc problems in my back and my doctor signed off. I get and extra 500 kwhs added to my base line. My bill went doen over 200 bucks. If you want more info on it, just ask, but basically most people know if someone is on life support they get extra baseline allowance, but few know if you have arthritus or joint condition that is effected by temp swings you can get the same allowance.

I5x15 is plenty of room for sure. looks like you will be able to get around in there just fine. As for your cloning, have you tried root excel by H&G? I ran my first round in my aero-cloner with it and my second with straight RO water. It took 10 days the first round and 15 the second. The roots were much more vigoous with the root excel too.

Anyway, everything looks amazing. My hats off to you for all the detail and love you put into your set-up and the ladies. :)
 

DoeEyed

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I see the water in the pic... you don't buy all your water @ the grocery do you?
Nah not now, I bought a filter that fits on the faucet - but will probably wind up buying a RO system eventually. I was buying it for a minute though, kept the jugs for refills - I like to let the water sit for a day or two before use .
 

Solcyn26

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Nah not now, I bought a filter that fits on the faucet - but will probably wind up buying a RO system eventually. I was buying it for a minute though, kept the jugs for refills - I like to let the water sit for a day or two before use .
im buying ro water for 1.25 right now its killin me, but my tap is at like 8.0ph and 150ppm so i dont have many alternatives..does your filter do a good job whats ur ppms out of the tap filter..is it like the brita kind?
 

DenseBuds

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$1.25 for how much? I used to buy from the grocery store at a high price until I found a "Water and Ice" store near us, a gallon of RO for $.20. It's maybe 3 miles down the road and I can fill up 24/7. I end up making a trip about once a week with 3, 5gal containers. I'm debating whether the cost and installation hassle would be worth it for me. Especially since my goal is to decrease the # of plants I have at any one time.
 

BigSkyBudTHC

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congratulations on the successful cloning. you inspired me to take a cutting off my purple widow and try the cup method.

but down the road i definitely want to clone myself. in the high times 2009 grow guide there is a detailed guide to building an aeroponic cloner unit. me and my m8 said hell ya we can build that. included are a few pictures. $300-$400 dollar cloner for about $50.

yea we built it in about an hour and the purple clone will have a new home tomorrow.
 

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DenseBuds

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You won't be dissapointed. I started with an 8 site Daisy Cloner machine but have since moved on to building one very similar to the plans you found. Aero cloning is the best IMO.

I'd like to try to buy the issue you have. Is it in one of the normal monthly magazines? Do you see it listed here?

http://headshop.hightimes.com/cgi-bin/7F3D840E/mac/qryitems.mac/itemDisplay?lenSgDsc=5M-VOLBack Issue Volumes&qryType=GRPSG&group=BACKIS

Did you use the 10 or 18 gal container? The lids are the same size, so I bought both. Hoping I could make the 10 gal work. It'd be so much easier.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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You won't be dissapointed. I started with an 8 site Daisy Cloner machine but have since moved on to building one very similar to the plans you found. Aero cloning is the best IMO.

I'd like to try to buy the issue you have. Is it in one of the normal monthly magazines? Do you see it listed here?

http://headshop.hightimes.com/cgi-bin/7F3D840E/mac/qryitems.mac/itemDisplay?lenSgDsc=5M-VOLBack Issue Volumes&qryType=GRPSG&group=BACKIS

Did you use the 10 or 18 gal container? The lids are the same size, so I bought both. Hoping I could make the 10 gal work. It'd be so much easier.

Here are a couple more links for DIY aero cloner. Mine s more lke the second lnk. Works great! https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/703-how-do-i-build-my.html

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=40055
 

DoeEyed

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Thanks for the links, I'll have to choose one to build, for my next project!

Solcyn26, I don't have a ppm meter, so I couldn't tell ya. I got a DuPont filter, screws right on to the faucet. $16.88 at Walmart.

Reached the end of eight weeks veg, and finished my room switches. Gonna have to buy a big filter soon as I can. The Lemon Skunk begin flowering tonight, and the LS Clones begin under the 400w MH this afternoon. As of right now, the clones seem to be growing slowly still? Normal? Anything I can do to get 'em growing faster? Safe to resume nutes with them or not yet?
Soon as my order from The 'Tude gets here, I'll be planting the next round!:mrgreen:
 

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BigSkyBudTHC

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good info man.

the dude in the article said to only use the Rubbermaid roughneck and all else will leak. he also said he has used all and trust him. get the 18 gall. thats what i got and its not that big. kind of hard fitting 24 clone sites into it.

the cover has six or seven mason jars with a tray of weed in foreground. also says GROW 1 POUND EVERY 3 WEEKS how to build a perpetual harvest system.

its not on your link but in every high times in the last few pages you can buy gear and stuff. high times headshop. its the best of high times grow guide 2009.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Thanks for the links, I'll have to choose one to build, for my next project!

Solcyn26, I don't have a ppm meter, so I couldn't tell ya. I got a DuPont filter, screws right on to the faucet. $16.88 at Walmart.

Reached the end of eight weeks veg, and finished my room switches. Gonna have to buy a big filter soon as I can. The Lemon Skunk begin flowering tonight, and the LS Clones begin under the 400w MH this afternoon. As of right now, the clones seem to be growing slowly still? Normal? Anything I can do to get 'em growing faster? Safe to resume nutes with them or not yet?
Soon as my order from The 'Tude gets here, I'll be planting the next round!:mrgreen:
You may decide to get a big plastic trash can or some type of res to fill so you don't have to keep refilling watering cans when you get the new set-up running. You can just put a pump n the bottom of the res with a hose and wand at the end to water with. you may have already got ths planned out, but just somethng that came to mind while looking at your new set-up. Also with the babies, mine alway go slow the first week or two after rooting, they should start shooting up any day now :)
Oh and if oyu want to tgive them a boost the best on the market is Root Excelerator by H&G IMHO
 

cruzer101

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Hi Doe,
Lookin good girl. You da woman. If you havent built one yet and all that room you have maybe you want to consider using two tubs. By putting a drain on one that holds the clones that drains to a res it makes it much eaiser to change the water. (like I did)
 

DoeEyed

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Hi Doe,
Lookin good girl. You da woman. If you havent built one yet and all that room you have maybe you want to consider using two tubs. By putting a drain on one that holds the clones that drains to a res it makes it much eaiser to change the water. (like I did)
Ok, thanks for the tip! Haven't built it yet - did you happen to make a DIY thread on yours?
Four of my clones are taking off, just started growing like mad under that light! The other two are kind of sad looking though - wilted looking, and yellowing badly. Not enough root system to deal with the light I think? Oh well - if they don't make it they don't make it.
 

Solcyn26

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i hope this helps

Aerocloner Assembly Instructions vers 1.1
By Stinkbud

Step 1 – Cutting the ½” PVC Pipe
1) Cut eight 7” lengths .
2) Cut two 1½” lengths.
3) Cut one 2¼” length.

Step 2 – Preassemble Your Sprayer Frame
1) Start with the top “H”. It’s made from the 3 – Tees & two 1½” pipes.
2) Add the elbows to the tips of the “H”.
3) Add the 7” legs and end caps.
4) Attach the 2¼” pump connecting pipe to bottom of the “H”.

Step 3 – Drilling the Sprayer Holes
1) Measure and mark the sprayer holes according to the plans.
2) Use the 11/64” drill bit for the eight holes.

Step 4 – Drilling the Lid
1) Measure out 23 holes as shown in the plans.
2) Use the 2” hole saw to cut the holes.
3) Use the Exacto Knife to clean up the holes.
4) Cut a small hole with the Exacto knife just big enough for the cord to fit through.

Step 5 – Final Assembly
1) Place the pump and sprayer unit into the container and check to make sure everything fits well.
2) Take apart the sprayer unit and paint primer on the ends of the pipes and inside the fittings.
3) Start the final assembly on the sprayer unit. Be careful because the glue dries fast! Do only one
part at a time until the unit is completely assembled.
4) Screw in the sprayers. You may need to use a pair of pliers to get them in.
5) Cut down a neoprene collar to the size of the cord hole you cut in the lid.
6) Run the cord through the lid and neoprene collar. Don’t put the lid on yet.

Step 6 – Setup and Conclusion
1) Add enough water to cover the pump but don’t fill it over half way. We don’t want the roots to
hang in the water.
2) Add 150ml of Clonex solution to the water (optional) and adjust the PH to 5.8
3) Set your cycle timer to one minute on and five minutes off.
4) Put the lid on the container.
5) Fill the cloner with your favorite strains. Don’t spray the cuttings.
6) Enjoy your new cloner!!!! You should see roots within a week.
7) Don’t forget to pass the love on…

I included the instructions and plans in an easy to print PDF format.

https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/hydroponics-aeroponics/220792d1224431793-harvest-pound-every-three-weeks-aerocloner_plans.pdf
 

DoeEyed

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i hope this helps

Aerocloner Assembly Instructions vers 1.1
By Stinkbud

Step 1 – Cutting the ½” PVC Pipe
1) Cut eight 7” lengths .
2) Cut two 1½” lengths.
3) Cut one 2¼” length.

Step 2 – Preassemble Your Sprayer Frame
1) Start with the top “H”. It’s made from the 3 – Tees & two 1½” pipes.
2) Add the elbows to the tips of the “H”.
3) Add the 7” legs and end caps.
4) Attach the 2¼” pump connecting pipe to bottom of the “H”.

Step 3 – Drilling the Sprayer Holes
1) Measure and mark the sprayer holes according to the plans.
2) Use the 11/64” drill bit for the eight holes.

Step 4 – Drilling the Lid
1) Measure out 23 holes as shown in the plans.
2) Use the 2” hole saw to cut the holes.
3) Use the Exacto Knife to clean up the holes.
4) Cut a small hole with the Exacto knife just big enough for the cord to fit through.

Step 5 – Final Assembly
1) Place the pump and sprayer unit into the container and check to make sure everything fits well.
2) Take apart the sprayer unit and paint primer on the ends of the pipes and inside the fittings.
3) Start the final assembly on the sprayer unit. Be careful because the glue dries fast! Do only one
part at a time until the unit is completely assembled.
4) Screw in the sprayers. You may need to use a pair of pliers to get them in.
5) Cut down a neoprene collar to the size of the cord hole you cut in the lid.
6) Run the cord through the lid and neoprene collar. Don’t put the lid on yet.

Step 6 – Setup and Conclusion
1) Add enough water to cover the pump but don’t fill it over half way. We don’t want the roots to
hang in the water.
2) Add 150ml of Clonex solution to the water (optional) and adjust the PH to 5.8
3) Set your cycle timer to one minute on and five minutes off.
4) Put the lid on the container.
5) Fill the cloner with your favorite strains. Don’t spray the cuttings.
6) Enjoy your new cloner!!!! You should see roots within a week.
7) Don’t forget to pass the love on…

I included the instructions and plans in an easy to print PDF format.

https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/hydroponics-aeroponics/220792d1224431793-harvest-pound-every-three-weeks-aerocloner_plans.pdf
Thanks a ton, very helpful!
 

DenseBuds

Active Member
Hey DE, you said you order seeds from Attitude right? How long do they usually take once dispatched? Mine were just sent out today. Trying to figure out when I need to go check my mailbox.
 
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