doctor G and his extra large tree

EarthBoxConnoisseur

EarthBoxConnoisseur

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All you that like to grow big trees indoors- I would just like to know why you do it? Not being a hater, just dont understand why when you could have a much more productive setup going with that amount of wattage. I could do two for sure maybe even three crops in the time this takes to do one. So even if you get 1 gpw, thats definitely not beating an OK yield off small plants at .5-.75 gpw. I know plant counts matter some places, but only one? Is it just the novelty of having a monster? And I usually monocrop myself, but growing this way also eliminates any option to have multiple strains.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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EarthBoxConnoisseur said:
All you that like to grow big trees indoors- I would just like to know why you do it? Not being a hater, just dont understand why when you could have a much more productive setup going with that amount of wattage. I could do two for sure maybe even three crops in the time this takes to do one. So even if you get 1 gpw, thats definitely not beating an OK yield off small plants at .5-.75 gpw. I know plant counts matter some places, but only one? Is it just the novelty of having a monster? And I usually monocrop myself, but growing this way also eliminates any option to have multiple strains.
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Since when do I need to wait until I've pulled one crop to start another one?!

Perpetual growing means you only wait once; after that things move as often as your perpetual setup allows. For instance, mine is a two week perpetual. I don't grow trees in two weeks, bro.

And the answer to your question is yield. With a vertical trees approach, I can get weight from the empty space above your flatlander grow.
 
EarthBoxConnoisseur

EarthBoxConnoisseur

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ttystikk said:
Since when do I need to wait until I've pulled one crop to start another one?!

Perpetual growing means you only wait once; after that things move as often as your perpetual setup allows. For instance, mine is a two week perpetual. I don't grow trees in two weeks, bro.

And the answer to your question is yield. With a vertical trees approach, I can get weight from the empty space above your flatlander grow.
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"My flat lander grow" haha. No need to get defensive, just doesn't make sense to me, especially if you're limited to one room like I am. I have looked at a lot of info on vert /trees and have never seen substantial efficiency increase. If you're constantly running a veg room that's more wattage which equals less efficiency. You can't say I got two gpw and that's so good when you're not factoring in the plants growing two to three times as long as a small plant grow. And doctor g said he vegged twelve weeks which is longer than the flower period of the vast majority of strains. So what then you're going to have huge veg rooms to allow for extreme veg times?? Numbers don't add up to me, especially if you had a devastating problem across 3-4 stages of flower, or even just one giant plant, it would take A LONG time to get back to where you were
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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EarthBoxConnoisseur said:
"My flat lander grow" haha. No need to get defensive, just doesn't make sense to me, especially if you're limited to one room like I am. I have looked at a lot of info on vert /trees and have never seen substantial efficiency increase. If you're constantly running a veg room that's more wattage which equals less efficiency. You can't say I got two gpw and that's so good when you're not factoring in the plants growing two to three times as long as a small plant grow. And doctor g said he vegged twelve weeks which is longer than the vast majority of strains. So what then you're going to have two veg rooms to allow for extreme veg times?? Numbers don't add up to me, especially if you had a devastating problem across 3-4 stages of flower, or even just one giant plant, it would take A LONG time to get back to where you were
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You just said it; it doesn't make sense in your situation. I agree. Not every problem is a nail or you wouldn't need a toolbox, just a hammer.

Taking the flip side of your argument, scaling the approach that worked in a couple of tents in your bedroom to a 50,000 square foot facility is likely to be problematic.

You do what works for you, and try to have an open mind about what might work in a different situation than yours.
 
EarthBoxConnoisseur

EarthBoxConnoisseur

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ttystikk said:
You just said it; it doesn't make sense in your situation. I agree. Not every problem is a nail or you wouldn't need a toolbox, just a hammer.

Taking the flip side of your argument, scaling the approach that worked in a couple of tents in your bedroom to a 50,000 square foot facility is likely to be problematic.

You do what works for you, and try to have an open mind about what might work in a different situation than yours.
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I'm actually looking into how to maximize my space and electricity restrictions better, so I've been researching a lot of people's different setups and methods. Thinking of splitting my bloom canopy into two flip flop schedule mini rooms, with a veg light out in the remainder of the room, to maximize my amps. About one month perpetual. I know perpetual can be beneficial to some degree. Just wondering about people's extreme veg times that's all.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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EarthBoxConnoisseur said:
I'm actually looking into how to maximize my space and electricity restrictions better, so I've been researching a lot of people's different setups and methods. Thinking of splitting my bloom canopy into two flip flop schedule mini rooms, with a veg light out in the remainder of the room, to maximize my amps. About one month perpetual. I know perpetual can be beneficial to some degree. Just wondering about people's extreme veg times that's all.
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Keep in mind that in a perpetual op, you size your space for the plants at that stage of development and no bigger. This means that the vast majority of your veg plants take up relatively little space under low watts.

Growing vertically wouldn't improve grams per watt efficiency; why would it? It addresses space efficiency.
 
PKHydro

PKHydro

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EarthBoxConnoisseur said:
I'm actually looking into how to maximize my space and electricity restrictions better, so I've been researching a lot of people's different setups and methods. Thinking of splitting my bloom canopy into two flip flop schedule mini rooms, with a veg light out in the remainder of the room, to maximize my amps. About one month perpetual. I know perpetual can be beneficial to some degree. Just wondering about people's extreme veg times that's all.
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Not all people who grow trees have extensive veg time. I veg for 5-6 weeks and my last crop I averaged a hair under 1.5lbs per plant (dry weight of course).

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I know I could be more efficient in my grow, but I need to keep plant counts low. And I find growing 4 plants to be pretty easy and low maintenance compared to growing huge numbers of smaller plants.

This works for me.
 
EarthBoxConnoisseur

EarthBoxConnoisseur

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PKHydro said:
Not all people who grow trees have extensive veg time. I veg for 5-6 weeks and my last crop I averaged a hair under 1.5lbs per plant (dry weight of course).

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I know I could be more efficient in my grow, but I need to keep plant counts low. And I find growing 4 plants to be pretty easy and low maintenance compared to growing huge numbers of smaller plants.

This works for me.
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Yes I saw your your thread. Those are some big ass girls for indoor! They look good
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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PKHydro said:
Not all people who grow trees have extensive veg time. I veg for 5-6 weeks and my last crop I averaged a hair under 1.5lbs per plant (dry weight of course).

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I know I could be more efficient in my grow, but I need to keep plant counts low. And I find growing 4 plants to be pretty easy and low maintenance compared to growing huge numbers of smaller plants.

This works for me.
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Those plants are hella nice.. good shit bro!
 
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