docs say no plant should be smoked...

leaffan

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The number one asshole just can't keep his mouth shut...

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/08/20/doctors-say-canadians-should-not-smoke-any-plant-material-including-marijuana/

Doctors say Canadians should not smoke ‘any plant material’ — including marijuana

Sharon Kirkey, Postmedia News
| August 20, 2014 6:03 PM ET
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They already opposed tobacco. Now the nation’s doctors say Canadians shouldn’t smoke “any plant material” whatsoever, including marijuana.

Delegates at the Canadian Medical Association’s general council meeting voted Wednesday to formally oppose the smoking of any plant substance.

Opponents to the motion said it was a back-door way to ban medical marijuana. Some claimed it smacks of Prohibition all over again.

Taken literally, the blanket statement could cover dozens of plants that people smoke in different cultures.

But outgoing CMA president Dr. Louis Hugo Francescutti said smoking harms the lungs’ “natural cleaning and repair system and traps cancer-causing chemicals” in the airways.

He cited a 2008 study by the American Chemical Society that found marijuana smoke contains many of the same chemicals as tobacco smoke but in substantially higher levels.

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Smoking marijuana may be more harmful than tobacco, partly because people often take “deeper, longer” puffs, said incoming president Dr. Chris Simpson.

The motion strengthens the CMA’s opposition to pot for medical purposes, especially in its smoked form, he added.

Dr. Deborah Hellyer, a Windsor, Ont., respirologist said that smoking one joint “is equivalent to smoking 10 cigarettes.”

But some doctors urged delegates to vote against the motion.

Dr. Ashley Miller of St. John’s said the “prohibitionist” tone contradicts existing evidence and she worried about the cultural sensitivity.

Others worried the message defeating the motion would send to the public.

“If we don’t support it, it says, “We’re OK, smoke whatever you want’ and I think that’s a really bad message to send to the public,” said Calgary physician Dr. Robin Cox.

Delegates at the policy convention also adopted a motion urging Corrections Canada to investigate the psychiatric consequences of solitary confinement.

Ontario psychiatrist Dr. Gary Chaimowitz said the death of Edward Snowshoe, who hanged himself at the Edmonton Institution after 162 days in segregation, and the segregation-cell death in 2007 of teenager Ashley Smith, who died by self-inflicted strangulation, highlight the dangers of prolonged segregation.

Up to one-third of the country’s maximum-security population are in segregation at any time and that the average time spent in segregation is about 95 days, he said.

“When I go into these facilities and I see the places people are housed and kept for weeks and weeks, and sometimes years, it is truly unbelievable,” he said.

The United Nations has said prolonged segregation is equivalent to torture.

Delegates voted down a motion that would have called for a system of “presumed” consent for organ donation. Proponents said countries with presumed consent have donor rates 25 to 30 per cent higher than Canada. But others warned that society isn’t yet ready for the notion of automatic organ consent.

Earlier, NDP leader Tom Mulcair became the first leader of the official Opposition to be invited to speak at the annual doctor’s gathering.

Mulcair accused the Harper government for attempting to recruit doctors “in their ideological crusade against marijuana” and forcing them to decide “who should and shouldn’t get home mail delivery.”

“That’s not governing. That’s bullying,” he told delegates.

The Canadian Medical Association, the College of Family Physicians of Canada and the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada declined the government’s invitation to endorse a proposed Health Canada advertising campaign on the dangers of marijuana use by young people.

Health Canada had asked the physicians’ groups to review the ads for accuracy and lend their logos and endorsements, which could have drawn MDs into the politically charged debate over the legalization of marijuana.

Mulcair accused the Conservatives of returning the country to an “era of crippling cuts” and said the NDP would use any federal budget surplus to reverse the Conservative’s plans to cut $36 billion from health-care spending starting in 2016.

Mulcair called the sate of health care on some First Nations’ reserves “a shame” and criticized the Conservative government for shuttering nine veterans’ service centres as a “wave of new veterans” returns from a decade of war in Afghanistan.
 

leaffan

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This makes me want to puke.
We are just getting rid of one asshole and it looks like his replacement is cut from the same cloth.
Pathetic!
 

Jackal69

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So with e-cigs(tobacco vapes) getting banned on the horizon and MJ vapes which I imagine (yet to get one) are practically the same..... except "juice" vs oils .... anyways ..... can someone sitting next to you get high off ya? like the old second hand smoke .... or if enclosed area like a car can the driver get baked while you do?

wondering
 

CalyxCrusher

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You know, if they put in half the effort they do into publishing shit about "uncertainties" and "lack of research" about cannabis and it's effects, into ACTUAL research or you know................maybe even use Google to find research which has ALREADY been done for them, they would come to find what everyone already knows, it's harmless in comparison to their claims

This has gone from beyond frustrating and has now crossed into the ignorance of EVIDENCE and SCIENTIFIC DATA. Lump them in with the chemtrail and faked moon landing conspiracy nuts, because stupidity and willful ignorance are the only valid excuses at this juncture
 

Jackal69

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your seeing how the brainwashed old mother fuckers from the past don't have no room in their brain's to see benefit's from natural plants..... how many cures are bulldozed in the rainforests

Some holistic shit is wack though
 

CannaReview

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So how come these guys don't put their foot down on the monstrous amounts of sugar, salt and other chemicals in food that causes kids to be hyperactive idots and prematurely kill thousands per year. Oh yah the other side has lots of money and big lawyers. How about all the deaths caused by energy drinks?


Also how can someone who went through so many years of schooling be so blind to the fact that strict prohibition on something just makes people want to do it and creates huge underground markets that fuel secondary crime markets.
 

bigmanc

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I agree actually, the plant matter is not the medicine its just the delivery of the actual medication. I still use my bong and roll joints tho lol
 

vostok

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This statement is as old as the hills, I heard this on a golf course back in the 1980's and I don't play golf nor am I a doctor ...lol
Compare that to a guy dying of cancer then obvious you gotta choose between to weevils ...lol
compare this to a 17yo fuck up with nothing better than to blaze all day then yes he risks getting lung conditions like a tobacco smoker lol and the mental illness ..lol
 

CannaReview

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I agree actually, the plant matter is not the medicine its just the delivery of the actual medication. I still use my bong and roll joints tho lol
Well I do agree on that as I don't smoke cigs or smoke wood chips BUT there are BIGGER problems in Canada with things that affect our health that need fixing first. The reason they are going for weed is that its easier to stir up emotions of those anti drug people and the won't someone think of the children people.
 

gb123

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Nothing wrong with what he said about smoking weed. It's his opinion.
Doesn't mean he has to agree with what patients like. His job is only to sign the scripts, and the scripts will get signed. One way or another these huge business plans are going to start eating HC/Government out of house and home when the fit starts hitting the shan.
Something's gotta give.
The Money isn't going anywhere.
Wonder who's gonna cave?

Bets? Wagers?

:lol:
 
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