Do you support or oppose the Iran nuclear deal?

Do you support or oppose the Iran nuclear deal?

  • I support the deal

    Votes: 6 35.3%

  • I oppose the deal

    Votes: 9 52.9%

  • Other

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • Total voters
    17
listen In all seriousnss USA was nothing in the war lets have a look from when the war started to what really happened remember there are 2 sides of the war one made in holywood other real blood of the war it was russia that burnt and killed all live stock to also starve out the advancing germans , the battle of stalingrad was in fact the turning point of the whole war i wonder you think a american was there fighting ??? not fucking chance

There are two radically different histories of WW II, the one that was actually fought, and the one where the US kicked everyone's assess. Guess which one Cold War-era classrooms were allowed to teach? Here's a hint: It's the same one Hollywood chose to film.
World War II wasn't just a clever name. It was a global conflict that included epic acts of heroism by non-Americans like the storming of Madagascar, the Battle of Westerplatte, the Battle of Moscow, the Battle of Kursk, the epically badass Kokoda Track, the pilots of the Polish Underground State, the details of El Alamein or the HMS Bulldog. Of course, Americans never hear about any of those unless, as in the case of the classic submarine film U 571, the characters are just straight up switched to Americans. To quote George S. Patton: "Americans love a winner," which you know because you saw Patton, the film that portrayed Field Marshal Bernard "Rommel-killer" Montgomery like a buffoonsimply because he was British.

However, there is one Zangief-sized elephant in the room that America loved to leave out of conversation until the end of the Cold War: the Soviet Union. The "Great Patriotic War" as they called it was the single largest military operation in history, and home to perhaps the biggest turning-point of the war: the Battle of Stalingrad.

Understand, the Russia versus Germany part of the war wasn't just a little more important than the part the USA was involved in. It was "four times the scale" of the whole Western front, larger than all other phases of the war put together. The Soviet military suffered eight million soldiers dead, more than 20 freaking times the number of U.S. casualties.
But they will use the D day as there great turning point of the war lol really kinda pathetic

Yes, Hitler plowed through Europe and had the UK on the ropes, and could have done more. It didn't matter. Stalin was waiting on the other side, and Hitler was never going to win that war. It was just a matter of how much of Europe he would control at the moment Stalin eventually crushed him.
But had it been through a nuclear bombardment of Berlin or through a continued war of attrition, Joseph Stalin was going to be in the winner's corner of WWII, no matter what.
and there is a shit load left out that Merica claims they were in lol funny actually i mean from the 1st day of war how long did it take USA to land a troop on the other side
????
remember one thing lol USA landed troops in greenland ??? and what did they do there lmao they knocked out a couple of german unmaned weather stations lmao duh
Wake up call the war was on the next island WTF
does anyone know where the first american was killed in the war ??? i do And it didn’t happen at sea, but during the Battle of Dombas, Norway in April of 1940. Following an unsuccessful airborne assault, the German high command ordered bombers to level the city. A military attaché with the American consulate was killed during the raid. Capt. Robert Losey, a U.S. Army meteorological officer, died while evacuating American diplomats and their staff to a railway tunnel. A monument was erected to Losey in the town.
 
All this is is USA putting more BS into everyones eyes TBH america is not a country to be trusted sad but true there lies and deception are throughout history but lets look at Iran
As Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu calls“for the US to establish a firm “red line” that Iran’s nuclear program can’t cross without risking a military response,” and the West is marched ever closer to war with the Islamic Republic based on tired and repeated lies, three important points must be kept in mind.
By using US State Department-listed foreign terror organization (#30) Mujahideen-e-Khalq (MEK) , the US and Israel have been waging years of covert war against the Iranian people.

In March 2012′s “US State Department Hands Terror-Cult US Base in Iraq,” the history of MEK as well as advocacy for supporting its terrorist activities inside of Iran is exposed through a series of Western-media reports, government testimony, and US foreign policy papers.

In February 2012′s “US Implausibly Denies Role in Israeli Terror Squads,” reports of both US officials admitting Israel’s backing of MEK terrorists to carry out assassinations inside of Iran, as well as evidence of US support for MEK are exposed.

It should be remembered that political and military subversion of Iran by the West stretches back to “Operation Ajax” in 1953, where the United States and the British overthrew the democratically elected nationalist government of Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh.

This violent subversion played out long before the current political order in Iran came to power. Iran has been the subject of sovereignty-violating foreign intervention for over half a century – with the West long ago drawing first blood, and continuing to do so up to present day through admitted campaigns of political, economic, and military subversion.

Perhaps the greatest myth in regards to US-Israeli policy toward Iran is that it is driven by concerns for national security and the survival of the “Jewish State” of Israel. In reality, the overall foreign policy pursued by Israel’s government has demonstrably run contra to both the Israeli people’s survival and their own prosperity. The Israeli government’s posture toward Iran is perhaps the most dangerous and unhinged manifestation of this.

In August 2012′s “Israel’s Netanyahu Attempts to Shame UN,” it was reported that, “the Israeli government is the greatest enemy of the Israeli people,” because:

Western corporate-financier oligarchs have done more to send both Americans and Israelis to their deaths than any combination of suicide belt-wearing, Kalashnikov-waving “terrorists.” The “War on Terror” is indeed a fraud, and Israel’s government has masterfully played a pivotal role – maintaining a strategy of tension to keep its own people in perpetual fear, while keeping their perceived enemies in perpetual and absolute rage. When enemies are difficult to find, the government of Israel and its corporate-financier backers upon Wall Street and in the city of London create them, including theMuslim Brotherhood, Hamas (and here), and Al Qaeda.

The result is a nation at constant war, with an inexhaustible supply of enemies in an unending conflict giving the interests of Wall Street and London – the very interests that created the modern state of Israel to begin with – an excuse to remain perpetually engaged in the Middle East with a military encampment the size of a nation at their constant disposal.

Augmenting this camp are the Israeli people themselves, just as lied to, manipulated, and kept in constant fear as their counterparts in the West to keep the rank and file of the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) as full as Wall Street’s American Armed Forces or Europe’s NATO foot soldiers.

The Israeli people are no less well-intentioned, talented, or full of potential as any other people on Earth, but they are likewise just as susceptible to being indoctrinated, misled, and terrorized into taking a course of action in no way beneficial to themselves or their nation. The Israeli government does not pursue a foreign or domestic policy conducive to its own self-preservation, let alone its prosperity as a nation.

Its constant warmongering, meddling geopolitically beyond its borders, and the creation and perpetuation of its alleged “enemies” have indeed killed more Israelis than any “terrorist.” The Israeli government and the corporate-financier interests they represent are the Israeli people’s worst enemy. It would be wise for both the Israeli people, and those who perceive themselves to be “enemies of Israel” to remember that and make a clear distinction when moving forward.

Israel should be enjoying standards of living and prosperity amongst the highest on Earth considering Israel’s extensive human resources, but is instead facing austerity and economic hardship as the collective talent and potential of the Israeli people are squandered in the pursuit of armed corporate-financier hegemony instead of peaceful progress. The same could be easily said of the United States, whose vast military supremacy and geographic location makes its narrative of “Iran, the imminent threat” all the more tenuous.

 
But this is what gets me we are to believe USA / Nato are for the good of mankind to protect each country but this logic does not apply i mean seriously look at it on both sides of the fence hat has occured in Iraq, Libya, pretty much every nation Usa, And Nato has deployed .
I mean who is really the Evil do you see Russia, China, constantly invading countries or demoralizing other nations ???
We are led to believe were fighting terrorism ?? when in fact there has been more hispanic terrorist activity them Muslim. in USA . everyone has a brain use it .. for a change
snow den is wanted dead or alive ??? and for what ??? proving the lies and deception of america???
He should be a fucking HERO
Look at it this way what Russia has done in 1 week USA couldn't do in 1 year
The US lead coalition spent a whole year pretending there striking ISIL Ask your self where are the results ???
The truth is US bombing of ISIS is smoke and mirrors the truth is its not eliminating ISIS , but rather a effort of the west to force there presence and worsen the situation ..
Kind sad really are we not suppose to be civilized use our brain or are most people brain washed
Cause if i was american I would be fucking embarrassed to admit it or even allow this to happen .. its pathetic really
If a person saw a child being attacked by a put bull if your american you would probably cheer the dog on sick but true ..
US led airstrikes are in fact intended to destroy the infrastructure of Syria same principle applied in Iraq .
you know NATO and USA targeted Civilian Infrastructure in Libya as well
The list goes on same thing applies with Yugoslavia targeting schools, hospitals, farms, bridges, roads, railways, water lines, communications facilities, factories, industries and other objects necessary for the basic functioning of a modern day society, according to the Independent Commission of Inquiry Hearing to Investigate U.S./NATO War Crimes Against the People of Yugoslavia.
They got one thing right The Axis of Evil is in fact USA and NATO
 
Darth Vapour said:
listen In all seriousnss USA was nothing in the war lets have a look from when the war started to what really happened remember there are 2 sides of the war one made in holywood other real blood of the war it was russia that burnt and killed all live stock to also starve out the advancing germans , the battle of stalingrad was in fact the turning point of the whole war i wonder you think a american was there fighting ??? not fucking chance

There are two radically different histories of WW II, the one that was actually fought, and the one where the US kicked everyone's assess. Guess which one Cold War-era classrooms were allowed to teach? Here's a hint: It's the same one Hollywood chose to film.
World War II wasn't just a clever name. It was a global conflict that included epic acts of heroism by non-Americans like the storming of Madagascar, the Battle of Westerplatte, the Battle of Moscow, the Battle of Kursk, the epically badass Kokoda Track, the pilots of the Polish Underground State, the details of El Alamein or the HMS Bulldog. Of course, Americans never hear about any of those unless, as in the case of the classic submarine film U 571, the characters are just straight up switched to Americans. To quote George S. Patton: "Americans love a winner," which you know because you saw Patton, the film that portrayed Field Marshal Bernard "Rommel-killer" Montgomery like a buffoonsimply because he was British.

However, there is one Zangief-sized elephant in the room that America loved to leave out of conversation until the end of the Cold War: the Soviet Union. The "Great Patriotic War" as they called it was the single largest military operation in history, and home to perhaps the biggest turning-point of the war: the Battle of Stalingrad.

Understand, the Russia versus Germany part of the war wasn't just a little more important than the part the USA was involved in. It was "four times the scale" of the whole Western front, larger than all other phases of the war put together. The Soviet military suffered eight million soldiers dead, more than 20 freaking times the number of U.S. casualties.
But they will use the D day as there great turning point of the war lol really kinda pathetic

Yes, Hitler plowed through Europe and had the UK on the ropes, and could have done more. It didn't matter. Stalin was waiting on the other side, and Hitler was never going to win that war. It was just a matter of how much of Europe he would control at the moment Stalin eventually crushed him.
But had it been through a nuclear bombardment of Berlin or through a continued war of attrition, Joseph Stalin was going to be in the winner's corner of WWII, no matter what.
and there is a shit load left out that Merica claims they were in lol funny actually i mean from the 1st day of war how long did it take USA to land a troop on the other side
????
remember one thing lol USA landed troops in greenland ??? and what did they do there lmao they knocked out a couple of german unmaned weather stations lmao duh
Wake up call the war was on the next island WTF
does anyone know where the first american was killed in the war ??? i do And it didn’t happen at sea, but during the Battle of Dombas, Norway in April of 1940. Following an unsuccessful airborne assault, the German high command ordered bombers to level the city. A military attaché with the American consulate was killed during the raid. Capt. Robert Losey, a U.S. Army meteorological officer, died while evacuating American diplomats and their staff to a railway tunnel. A monument was erected to Losey in the town.
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You`re on drugs.


Everyone knows that the Germans could not fight and defeat Russia in Russia, The German strategy was to cut off Russia and let them survive on what they had in Country, the rest of the World was out of reach for Russia,...

It was Russia that took back North Africa, It was Russia that took back the Middle East, it was Russia that held the Panama Canal safe from invasion, It was Russia that Kept the Suez from falling into German hands, it was Russia that had huge forces South of Europe that prevented the Germans from concentrating their forces together and mass invading their homeland, it was Russia that single handedly defeated the Japanese Navy, it was Russia that Japanese surrendered to, and it was Russia that developed the A-Bomb, and most importantly, it was Russia that used it twice.

Thanks for clearing that up. I had no idea.
 
lol

here look from the start
18/9/1931: The Japanese army provokes an incident (at Mukden) and invades Manchuria without consulting with the Wakatsuki government
10/5/1933: Students of the University of Berlin burn thousands of books by Jewish authors
May 1933: Germany sends general Hans von Seeckt as a military advisor to China
Apr 1934: Germany sends general Alexander von Falkenhausen as a military advisor to China
Apr 1934: Germany sends general Alexander von Falkenhausen as a military advisor to China
3/10/1935: Mussolini invades Ethiopia
31/8/1935: The US Congress passes a "neutrality act" that outlaws sales of arms to all parties in a war
15/10/1936: Hitler and Mussolini sign a treaty of friendship and form the "Axis"
25/11/1936: Germany and Japan form the anti-Cominterm Pact to protect against communism
7/7/1937: A clash between Chinese and Japanese troops ("Marco Polo Incident") lead to a general war
10/7/1937: Japan invades Beijing
14/8/1937: Kai-shek Chiang's nationalist Chinese troops attack the Japanese garrison in Shanghai
13/12/1937: Japan invades Nanjing (350,000 Chinese are killed and 100,000 women are raped during the "rape of Nanking" in revenge for the Shanghai attack) and the Chinese nationalists move their capital to Chungking/ Chongqing
1937: Mao moves the headquarters of the communist government to Yan'an / Yenan, where the opium trade triggers high inflation
8/1937: Japanese general Shiro Ishii sets up Unit 731 near the Chinese city of Harbin to conducts biological experiments on Chinese prisoners, including live vivisections and amputations
12/3/1938: Germany annexes Austria ("Anschluss")
21/5/1938: Japan conquers Suchow
6/6/1938: the Japanese capture Kaifeng, the capital of Henan, in China
7/6/1938: To stop the Japanese invasion, Chiang's Chinese army causes a flood in Henan, Anhui, and Jiangsu provinces that kills 800,000 people
26/7/1938: Japan conquers Kiukiang and carries out another massacre of Chinese civilians
21/10/1938: Japan captures Guangzhou/Canton
Dec 1938: Germany annexes the Sudeten from Czechoslovakia
1938: Synagogues and Jewish shops are destroyed by Nazist mobs in Germany ("Kristallnacht")
12/1938: German scientists split the uranium atom
10/1/1939: Hitler promises the extermination of the Jews if they cause another world war
1939: Shiro Ishii carries out biological experiments in Harbin, China (10,000 prisoners will die)
Mar 1939: Germany invades Czechoslovakia, creates the protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, turns Slovakia into a fascist state under Jozef Tiso, and occupies the Lithuanian port of Memel
27/3/1939: Japan conquers Kiangsi's capital Nanchang from the Chinese
7/4/1939: Italy invades and annexes Albania
25/7/1939: Hitler orders the first euthanasia on a German "unworthy of life", the beginning of program T4 ("Tiergartenstrasse 4 4")to eliminate all physical and mentally handicapped citizens
31/8/1939: Georgii Zhukov leads the Soviet Union and Mongolia to victory against Japan at the battle of Khalkhin Gol ("Nomonthan Incident")
23/8/1939: The Soviet Union and Germany sign a non-aggression pact including the partition of Poland (and assigns Latvia, Estonia, Finland and Romania's Bessarabia to the Soviet Union, and Lithuania to Germany)
1/9/1939: Germany invades Poland, whose population is 10% Jewish
2/9/1939: The cruise ship Athenia is sunk by a German submarine
3/9/1939: Britain, France, Australia, New Zealand, India and South Africa declare war on Germany
3/9/1939: Polish people attack ethnic Germans killing about 6,000 in a few weeks
6/9/1939: Germany conquers Krakow in Poland
10/9/1939: Canada declares war on Germany
17/9/1939: the Soviet Union invades Poland, ostensibly to defend Belorussian and Ukrainian minorities from Polish persecution
28/9/1939: Germany and the Soviet Union sign another treaty granting the Soviet Union the Baltis and Romania's Bessarabia
1/10/1939: Germany conquers Poland's capital Warsaw after more than 30,000 Poles have been killed
24/10/1939: Western Ukraine asks to become part of the Soviet Union
27/9/1939: Germany appoints Reinhard Heydrich governor of the protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, and he begins deporting the 100,000 Czech Jews
9/1939: Alan Turing arrives at Bletchley Park and designs a "bombe machine" to help decipher German coded messages
9/1939: Germany opens an extermination camp at Soldau in Poland
28/10/1939: German troops kill 9 students during anti-German demonstrations
Oct 1939: Ethnic German militias (Selbstschutz) murder 10,000 Poles and Jews in Mniszek, Poland
Nov 1939: Ethnic German militias (Selbstschutz) and the Gestapo have murdered 6,000 Poles and Jews in Fordon, Poland
4/11/1939: The USA Congress passes a new neutrality act but legalizes the sale of arms to France and Britain
8/11/1939: and assassination attempt on Adolf Hitler in Munich fails
30/11/1939: the Soviet Union invades Finland, a one-million men army against a 150,000 men army
6/12/1939: Heisenberg reports on the possibility of building an atomic bomb for Germany
14/12/1939: The Soviet Union is expelled from the League of Nations
31/12/1939: 65,000 Polish civilians have been killed by German troops, mostly Jews, intellectuals, priests and aristocrats
?/1940: Japan bombs the Chinese city of Ningbo with fleas carrying the bubonic plague
1/1940: 250 gypsies (mostly children) are killed in the Buchenwald concentration camp
25/1/1940: Germany creates a Jewish ghetto in Lodz, Poland
1/1940: The Czech resistance unites in the Central Leadership of Home Resistance (UVOD)
1/2/1940: Stalin appoints Semyon Konstantinovich Timoshenko in charge of the Finnish front after Finland enters Soviet territory
21/2/1940: the Soviet Union bombs Sweden
12/3/1940: Finland surrenders to the Soviet Union after the Soviet Union lost 84,000 soldiers and Finland 25,000
23/3/1940: Finland signs a peace treaty with the Soviet Union ceding Karelia
March 1940: Japan establishes the puppet regime of Ching-wei Wang over China
9/4/1940: Germany invades Denmark and Norway ("Operation Weseruebung")
16/4/1940: the Soviet Union begin massacring 22,000 Polish soldiers and civilians in the woods of Katyn
28/4/1940: British, French and Polish troops land in NorwaBritish, French and Polish troops land in Norway
10/5/1940: Germany invades Belgium and Holland
10/5/1940: British prime minister Neville Chamberlain resigns and is replaced by Winston Churchill
11/5/1940: Britain bombs the region of Westphalia in Germany
12/5/1940: Germany invades France
14/5/1940: Holland surrenders
19/5/1940: Britain bombs Bremen and Hamburg
20/5/1940: the German army reaches the English Channel
21/5/1940: Soldau's extermination camp under Herbert Lange experiments with gas vans (an original Soviet invention used during Stalin's purges) killing more than a thousand East Prussian and Pomeranian mental patients
24/5/1940: Hilter halts German troops that have surrounded British troops in Dunkerquee
26/5/1940: Britain evacuates more than 300,000 surrounded British and French troops from Dunkerque ("Operation Dynamo")
26/5/1940: Germany establishes the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp under Rudolph Hoss/Hoess
27/5/1940: Belgium surrenders
4/6/1940: Germany enters Paris
27/6/1940: Romania is forced by Stalin to surrender Bessarabia (Moldova) to the Soviet Union
10/6/1940: Norway surrenders
10/6/1940: Italy declares war on Britain and France and invades France
14/6/1940: German troops enter Paris
17/6/1940: Charles de Gaulle flees to Britain
18/6/1940: Churchill delivers his "Their Finest Hour" speech to the House of Commons while Charles de Gaulle broadcasts a radio message from the BBC to France
18/6/1940: the Soviet Union invades Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania
18/6/1940: Sweden allows Germany passage through its territory
22/6/1940: France surrenders to Germany after 92,000 French soldiers have been killed and two million have been taken prisoners, and a new government, led by Philippe Petain, moves the capital to Vichy, leaving Germany in control of 3/5th of the country but preserving the colonies
28/6/1940: Britain recognizes the French government in exile of general Charles de Gaulle while Hitler tours Paris
28/6/1940: The Soviet Union seizes Bessarabia and northern Bukovina from Romania
3/7/1940: Britain attacks the French fleet at Mers-el-Kebir killing 1,297 French sailors
10/7/1940: Germany bombs Britain
10/7/1940: France gives Petain full dictatorial powers, ending the Third Republic
?/7/1940: Italy invades British Sudan from Ethiopia
3/8/1940: Italy invades British Somaliland with 250,000 soldiers
3/8/1940: The Soviet Union admits Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia
13/8/1940: German warplanes raid British airfields and a British naval base
15/8/1940: 1,790 German warplanes bomb Britain from northern France, Norway and Denmark
17/8/1940: the German navy blockades the British Isles
20/8/1940: Mao launches the Hundred Regiments Offensive against Japan
24/8/1940: German warplanes bomb London, probably by mistake
25/8/1940: Britain bombs Berlin
6/9/1940: Ion Antonescu stages a coup in Romania and turns the kingdom into a fascist dictatorship
7/9/1940: the German Luftwaffe launches 652 bombers on London (the "blitz"), dropping one million bombs in two months and killing 23,000 civilians in four months
27/9/1940: Germany, Italy and Japan sign the "Tripartite Treaty"
29/9/1940: Britain begins shipping war materials to China from Burma
 
Darth Vapour said:
All this is is USA putting more BS into everyones eyes TBH america is not a country to be trusted sad but true there lies and deception are throughout history but lets look at Iran
As Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu calls“for the US to establish a firm “red line” that Iran’s nuclear program can’t cross without risking a military response,” and the West is marched ever closer to war with the Islamic Republic based on tired and repeated lies, three important points must be kept in mind.
By using US State Department-listed foreign terror organization (#30) Mujahideen-e-Khalq (MEK) , the US and Israel have been waging years of covert war against the Iranian people.

In March 2012′s “US State Department Hands Terror-Cult US Base in Iraq,” the history of MEK as well as advocacy for supporting its terrorist activities inside of Iran is exposed through a series of Western-media reports, government testimony, and US foreign policy papers.

In February 2012′s “US Implausibly Denies Role in Israeli Terror Squads,” reports of both US officials admitting Israel’s backing of MEK terrorists to carry out assassinations inside of Iran, as well as evidence of US support for MEK are exposed.

It should be remembered that political and military subversion of Iran by the West stretches back to “Operation Ajax” in 1953, where the United States and the British overthrew the democratically elected nationalist government of Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh.

This violent subversion played out long before the current political order in Iran came to power. Iran has been the subject of sovereignty-violating foreign intervention for over half a century – with the West long ago drawing first blood, and continuing to do so up to present day through admitted campaigns of political, economic, and military subversion.

Perhaps the greatest myth in regards to US-Israeli policy toward Iran is that it is driven by concerns for national security and the survival of the “Jewish State” of Israel. In reality, the overall foreign policy pursued by Israel’s government has demonstrably run contra to both the Israeli people’s survival and their own prosperity. The Israeli government’s posture toward Iran is perhaps the most dangerous and unhinged manifestation of this.

In August 2012′s “Israel’s Netanyahu Attempts to Shame UN,” it was reported that, “the Israeli government is the greatest enemy of the Israeli people,” because:

Western corporate-financier oligarchs have done more to send both Americans and Israelis to their deaths than any combination of suicide belt-wearing, Kalashnikov-waving “terrorists.” The “War on Terror” is indeed a fraud, and Israel’s government has masterfully played a pivotal role – maintaining a strategy of tension to keep its own people in perpetual fear, while keeping their perceived enemies in perpetual and absolute rage. When enemies are difficult to find, the government of Israel and its corporate-financier backers upon Wall Street and in the city of London create them, including theMuslim Brotherhood, Hamas (and here), and Al Qaeda.

The result is a nation at constant war, with an inexhaustible supply of enemies in an unending conflict giving the interests of Wall Street and London – the very interests that created the modern state of Israel to begin with – an excuse to remain perpetually engaged in the Middle East with a military encampment the size of a nation at their constant disposal.

Augmenting this camp are the Israeli people themselves, just as lied to, manipulated, and kept in constant fear as their counterparts in the West to keep the rank and file of the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) as full as Wall Street’s American Armed Forces or Europe’s NATO foot soldiers.

The Israeli people are no less well-intentioned, talented, or full of potential as any other people on Earth, but they are likewise just as susceptible to being indoctrinated, misled, and terrorized into taking a course of action in no way beneficial to themselves or their nation. The Israeli government does not pursue a foreign or domestic policy conducive to its own self-preservation, let alone its prosperity as a nation.

Its constant warmongering, meddling geopolitically beyond its borders, and the creation and perpetuation of its alleged “enemies” have indeed killed more Israelis than any “terrorist.” The Israeli government and the corporate-financier interests they represent are the Israeli people’s worst enemy. It would be wise for both the Israeli people, and those who perceive themselves to be “enemies of Israel” to remember that and make a clear distinction when moving forward.

Israel should be enjoying standards of living and prosperity amongst the highest on Earth considering Israel’s extensive human resources, but is instead facing austerity and economic hardship as the collective talent and potential of the Israeli people are squandered in the pursuit of armed corporate-financier hegemony instead of peaceful progress. The same could be easily said of the United States, whose vast military supremacy and geographic location makes its narrative of “Iran, the imminent threat” all the more tenuous.
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Now you`re getting somewhere.

After the 50`s, the richest of the rich, have found the guy with the big stick to corrupt and maneuver it`s power to force actions they cannot do alone or together. You are correct with a lot of accusations, The US Congress is today corrupt, in fact, you can go back to the 60`s and find power influences from the corrupt US Government bought and paid for by the richest of the rich.

These things are allowed to continue because the American people are tied up. Our two party system is ideal to corrupt, if one wont, the other will. We as American citizens are powerless to stop it because these two Parties dictate who is next in line to vote for, they overwhelm any independent chance of changing our two Party system. It`s a win, win for them and a lose, lose for anyone they decide to act upon.

There`s a Civil war in the making here in the US, you can almost see it. Our citizens and the rest of the world are fed up with the mass corruption in our government and goals these corrupted are out to reach.

But don`t try and sell me that Russia saved the world from the Nazi, they saved themselves. Am I`m convinced it is because half of the Nazi were busy fighting us and losing.
 
Darth Vapour said:
lol

here look from the start
18/9/1931: The Japanese army provokes an incident (at Mukden) and invades Manchuria without consulting with the Wakatsuki government
10/5/1933: Students of the University of Berlin burn thousands of books by Jewish authors
May 1933: Germany sends general Hans von Seeckt as a military advisor to China
Apr 1934: Germany sends general Alexander von Falkenhausen as a military advisor to China
Apr 1934: Germany sends general Alexander von Falkenhausen as a military advisor to China
3/10/1935: Mussolini invades Ethiopia
31/8/1935: The US Congress passes a "neutrality act" that outlaws sales of arms to all parties in a war
15/10/1936: Hitler and Mussolini sign a treaty of friendship and form the "Axis"
25/11/1936: Germany and Japan form the anti-Cominterm Pact to protect against communism
7/7/1937: A clash between Chinese and Japanese troops ("Marco Polo Incident") lead to a general war
10/7/1937: Japan invades Beijing
14/8/1937: Kai-shek Chiang's nationalist Chinese troops attack the Japanese garrison in Shanghai
13/12/1937: Japan invades Nanjing (350,000 Chinese are killed and 100,000 women are raped during the "rape of Nanking" in revenge for the Shanghai attack) and the Chinese nationalists move their capital to Chungking/ Chongqing
1937: Mao moves the headquarters of the communist government to Yan'an / Yenan, where the opium trade triggers high inflation
8/1937: Japanese general Shiro Ishii sets up Unit 731 near the Chinese city of Harbin to conducts biological experiments on Chinese prisoners, including live vivisections and amputations
12/3/1938: Germany annexes Austria ("Anschluss")
21/5/1938: Japan conquers Suchow
6/6/1938: the Japanese capture Kaifeng, the capital of Henan, in China
7/6/1938: To stop the Japanese invasion, Chiang's Chinese army causes a flood in Henan, Anhui, and Jiangsu provinces that kills 800,000 people
26/7/1938: Japan conquers Kiukiang and carries out another massacre of Chinese civilians
21/10/1938: Japan captures Guangzhou/Canton
Dec 1938: Germany annexes the Sudeten from Czechoslovakia
1938: Synagogues and Jewish shops are destroyed by Nazist mobs in Germany ("Kristallnacht")
12/1938: German scientists split the uranium atom
10/1/1939: Hitler promises the extermination of the Jews if they cause another world war
1939: Shiro Ishii carries out biological experiments in Harbin, China (10,000 prisoners will die)
Mar 1939: Germany invades Czechoslovakia, creates the protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, turns Slovakia into a fascist state under Jozef Tiso, and occupies the Lithuanian port of Memel
27/3/1939: Japan conquers Kiangsi's capital Nanchang from the Chinese
7/4/1939: Italy invades and annexes Albania
25/7/1939: Hitler orders the first euthanasia on a German "unworthy of life", the beginning of program T4 ("Tiergartenstrasse 4 4")to eliminate all physical and mentally handicapped citizens
31/8/1939: Georgii Zhukov leads the Soviet Union and Mongolia to victory against Japan at the battle of Khalkhin Gol ("Nomonthan Incident")
23/8/1939: The Soviet Union and Germany sign a non-aggression pact including the partition of Poland (and assigns Latvia, Estonia, Finland and Romania's Bessarabia to the Soviet Union, and Lithuania to Germany)
1/9/1939: Germany invades Poland, whose population is 10% Jewish
2/9/1939: The cruise ship Athenia is sunk by a German submarine
3/9/1939: Britain, France, Australia, New Zealand, India and South Africa declare war on Germany
3/9/1939: Polish people attack ethnic Germans killing about 6,000 in a few weeks
6/9/1939: Germany conquers Krakow in Poland
10/9/1939: Canada declares war on Germany
17/9/1939: the Soviet Union invades Poland, ostensibly to defend Belorussian and Ukrainian minorities from Polish persecution
28/9/1939: Germany and the Soviet Union sign another treaty granting the Soviet Union the Baltis and Romania's Bessarabia
1/10/1939: Germany conquers Poland's capital Warsaw after more than 30,000 Poles have been killed
24/10/1939: Western Ukraine asks to become part of the Soviet Union
27/9/1939: Germany appoints Reinhard Heydrich governor of the protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, and he begins deporting the 100,000 Czech Jews
9/1939: Alan Turing arrives at Bletchley Park and designs a "bombe machine" to help decipher German coded messages
9/1939: Germany opens an extermination camp at Soldau in Poland
28/10/1939: German troops kill 9 students during anti-German demonstrations
Oct 1939: Ethnic German militias (Selbstschutz) murder 10,000 Poles and Jews in Mniszek, Poland
Nov 1939: Ethnic German militias (Selbstschutz) and the Gestapo have murdered 6,000 Poles and Jews in Fordon, Poland
4/11/1939: The USA Congress passes a new neutrality act but legalizes the sale of arms to France and Britain
8/11/1939: and assassination attempt on Adolf Hitler in Munich fails
30/11/1939: the Soviet Union invades Finland, a one-million men army against a 150,000 men army
6/12/1939: Heisenberg reports on the possibility of building an atomic bomb for Germany
14/12/1939: The Soviet Union is expelled from the League of Nations
31/12/1939: 65,000 Polish civilians have been killed by German troops, mostly Jews, intellectuals, priests and aristocrats
?/1940: Japan bombs the Chinese city of Ningbo with fleas carrying the bubonic plague
1/1940: 250 gypsies (mostly children) are killed in the Buchenwald concentration camp
25/1/1940: Germany creates a Jewish ghetto in Lodz, Poland
1/1940: The Czech resistance unites in the Central Leadership of Home Resistance (UVOD)
1/2/1940: Stalin appoints Semyon Konstantinovich Timoshenko in charge of the Finnish front after Finland enters Soviet territory
21/2/1940: the Soviet Union bombs Sweden
12/3/1940: Finland surrenders to the Soviet Union after the Soviet Union lost 84,000 soldiers and Finland 25,000
23/3/1940: Finland signs a peace treaty with the Soviet Union ceding Karelia
March 1940: Japan establishes the puppet regime of Ching-wei Wang over China
9/4/1940: Germany invades Denmark and Norway ("Operation Weseruebung")
16/4/1940: the Soviet Union begin massacring 22,000 Polish soldiers and civilians in the woods of Katyn
28/4/1940: British, French and Polish troops land in NorwaBritish, French and Polish troops land in Norway
10/5/1940: Germany invades Belgium and Holland
10/5/1940: British prime minister Neville Chamberlain resigns and is replaced by Winston Churchill
11/5/1940: Britain bombs the region of Westphalia in Germany
12/5/1940: Germany invades France
14/5/1940: Holland surrenders
19/5/1940: Britain bombs Bremen and Hamburg
20/5/1940: the German army reaches the English Channel
21/5/1940: Soldau's extermination camp under Herbert Lange experiments with gas vans (an original Soviet invention used during Stalin's purges) killing more than a thousand East Prussian and Pomeranian mental patients
24/5/1940: Hilter halts German troops that have surrounded British troops in Dunkerquee
26/5/1940: Britain evacuates more than 300,000 surrounded British and French troops from Dunkerque ("Operation Dynamo")
26/5/1940: Germany establishes the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp under Rudolph Hoss/Hoess
27/5/1940: Belgium surrenders
4/6/1940: Germany enters Paris
27/6/1940: Romania is forced by Stalin to surrender Bessarabia (Moldova) to the Soviet Union
10/6/1940: Norway surrenders
10/6/1940: Italy declares war on Britain and France and invades France
14/6/1940: German troops enter Paris
17/6/1940: Charles de Gaulle flees to Britain
18/6/1940: Churchill delivers his "Their Finest Hour" speech to the House of Commons while Charles de Gaulle broadcasts a radio message from the BBC to France
18/6/1940: the Soviet Union invades Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania
18/6/1940: Sweden allows Germany passage through its territory
22/6/1940: France surrenders to Germany after 92,000 French soldiers have been killed and two million have been taken prisoners, and a new government, led by Philippe Petain, moves the capital to Vichy, leaving Germany in control of 3/5th of the country but preserving the colonies
28/6/1940: Britain recognizes the French government in exile of general Charles de Gaulle while Hitler tours Paris
28/6/1940: The Soviet Union seizes Bessarabia and northern Bukovina from Romania
3/7/1940: Britain attacks the French fleet at Mers-el-Kebir killing 1,297 French sailors
10/7/1940: Germany bombs Britain
10/7/1940: France gives Petain full dictatorial powers, ending the Third Republic
?/7/1940: Italy invades British Sudan from Ethiopia
3/8/1940: Italy invades British Somaliland with 250,000 soldiers
3/8/1940: The Soviet Union admits Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia
13/8/1940: German warplanes raid British airfields and a British naval base
15/8/1940: 1,790 German warplanes bomb Britain from northern France, Norway and Denmark
17/8/1940: the German navy blockades the British Isles
20/8/1940: Mao launches the Hundred Regiments Offensive against Japan
24/8/1940: German warplanes bomb London, probably by mistake
25/8/1940: Britain bombs Berlin
6/9/1940: Ion Antonescu stages a coup in Romania and turns the kingdom into a fascist dictatorship
7/9/1940: the German Luftwaffe launches 652 bombers on London (the "blitz"), dropping one million bombs in two months and killing 23,000 civilians in four months
27/9/1940: Germany, Italy and Japan sign the "Tripartite Treaty"
29/9/1940: Britain begins shipping war materials to China from Burma
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Why did you stop ? go all the way to 45 when the Japanese surrendered on that Russian Battleship to Moscow.
 
but even then USA knew there army was inferior to the German army
but ask your self from beginning of war where did usa enter lol
 
But even back then myths can be myths lol can USA say they ever won a war without any allies ??? the answer will be no They have never won a war iraq lost , korea lost, vietnam lost and same thing will apply in Syria but truth is
is this maybe when it comes time when USA asks his allies to back them they inturn might say well how much you owe us pay us first and we will think about it See
Americans commonly claim that the USA won World War Two and saved England from Nazi rule. This is myth. The USA did not come to Europe’s help in World War Two. During the Second World War, Roosevelt’s response to Churchill’s request for help was to agree to give Britain fifty old and pretty useless destroyers to help with the war effort. In return, Churchill had to hand over a ring of valuable British bases.

When Churchill asked for more help the USA demanded all the UK’s gold, as much money as the UK could borrow and insisted that all available public and private assets be sold. The Americans demanded entry to Britain’s export markets and Britain had to hand over details of numerous new British inventions (including the jet engine). These were goodwill gifts which the USA demanded not in return for helping Britain in the war against Hitler (they didn’t) but simply to agree to sell arms to Britain.

Roosevelt and the USA did nothing to help Britain until Germany made the mistake of declaring war on the USA. America’s post war economic success was and is built upon the exploitation of Britain in the early war years. That is a fact which we should never forget. However Europe was saved when Hitler and Mussolini declared war on the USA on December 11th 1941. It was only then that America was forced into the European war. It was Russia led by Stalin, which helped Britain most (not the USA). The Russian army destroyed far more of the German army than the Americans did. Britain ended the Second World War ruined, both industrially and economically. As for America they came out on top.
But whats to be expected if someone shows up late for party
 
Darth Vapour said:
listen In all seriousnss USA was nothing in the war lets have a look from when the war started to what really happened remember there are 2 sides of the war one made in holywood other real blood of the war it was russia that burnt and killed all live stock to also starve out the advancing germans , the battle of stalingrad was in fact the turning point of the whole war i wonder you think a american was there fighting ??? not fucking chance
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Lol this is a hilarious premise because without Lend-Lease, the USSR would've crumbled. I remember writing a paper on this. We supplied the USSR with some 16 million tons of food between 1940 and 1945. We gave them between 17-18 million tons of military equipment, vehicles, industrial supplies and food as well. By 1945 1/3 of their trucks were US made. The US Army estimated that the supplies going through the Persian corridor alone could sustain sixty combat divisions on the front. Guess where most of these supplies along the Persian corridor were going to? Yup, Stalingrad. The US didn't even have to enter the war to begin with, and we didn't want to. Congress in the 1930s had passed a series of laws that would keep the US neutral until shipping was attacked by Kriegsmarine U-Boats and we were attacked by Japan (Neutrality Act of 1935, 1936, 1937, and 1939). Stalin even said, publicly, at the Tehran Conference "Without American production the United Nations could never have won the war."
 
Darth Vapour said:
but even then USA knew there army was inferior to the German army
but ask your self from beginning of war where did usa enter lol
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You are very very thick,...let`s try one more time to breach the armor,...

The USA did not, did not, again, did not want to enter the war. Our people said "No".......over.
 
pm you kidding right ??? just look at the link and see how much usa really did lol and look on bottom of page at numbers lol
its no different today cmon Ask your self is USA shitting there pants now Russia has send high tech air to air missiles gen 5 fighter jets and building army personal on Syria looks to me there going to stay there for a while seems to me since russia bombed Cia installations from the other ocean raised a few eyebrows
USA is unprepared for Russia"s obvious higher tech cruise missles
could this be why uss theodore roosevelt has left the region lol god forbid if one of russian cruise missles takes out one of them ,,
you honestly think USA or nato combined are ready to take on Russia ????
shit news just came out China is entering the war now oh my oh my
China has also shown solidarity with Syria, joining Russia in vetoeing UN proposals against Bashar al-Assad, which are likely to prevent him being referred by the council to the International Criminal Court.

The latest actions at the UN conference have come amid reports, citing key military sources, Chinese warships have made their way to Syrian shores through the Suez Canal.


Chinese carrier Liaoning

It was said China’s J-15 warplanes would launch from an aircraft carrier for attacks on ISIS.

Russian media followed that up by quoting Igor Morozov, a member of the Russian Federation Committee on International Affairs, confirming Chinese aircraft carrier, Lianoning, and a guided missile cruiser were heading to the area, and adding Chinese military advisers were already in the region.
 
pnwmystery said:
Lol this is a hilarious premise because without Lend-Lease, the USSR would've crumbled. I remember writing a paper on this. We supplied the USSR with some 16 million tons of food between 1940 and 1945. We gave them between 17-18 million tons of military equipment, vehicles, industrial supplies and food as well. By 1945 1/3 of their trucks were US made. The US Army estimated that the supplies going through the Persian corridor alone could sustain sixty combat divisions on the front. Guess where most of these supplies along the Persian corridor were going to? Yup, Stalingrad. The US didn't even have to enter the war to begin with, and we didn't want to. Congress in the 1930s had passed a series of laws that would keep the US neutral until shipping was attacked by Kriegsmarine U-Boats and we were attacked by Japan (Neutrality Act of 1935, 1936, 1937, and 1939). Stalin even said, publicly, at the Tehran Conference "Without American production the United Nations could never have won the war."
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No, it was Russia that supplied the war, and it was Russia that drew up the plans and executed them, Didn`t you know the Pacific Carriers secretly flew the sickle and star tied to the props ? Those were Russian planes with US markings.

If you flip Mo. upside dowm, it has made in USSR on her keel. If you look at the plaque, it reads Russian at night.
 
Darth Vapour said:
pm you kidding right ??? just look at the link and see how much usa really did lol and look on bottom of page at numbers lol
its no different today cmon Ask your self is USA shitting there pants now Russia has send high tech air to air missiles gen 5 fighter jets and building army personal on Syria looks to me there going to stay there for a while seems to me since russia bombed Cia installations from the other ocean raised a few eyebrows
USA is unprepared for Russia"s obvious higher tech cruise missles
could this be why uss theodore roosevelt has left the region lol god forbid if one of russian cruise missles takes out one of them ,,
you honestly think USA or nato combined are ready to take on Russia ????
shit news just came out China is entering the war now oh my oh my
China has also shown solidarity with Syria, joining Russia in vetoeing UN proposals against Bashar al-Assad, which are likely to prevent him being referred by the council to the International Criminal Court.

The latest actions at the UN conference have come amid reports, citing key military sources, Chinese warships have made their way to Syrian shores through the Suez Canal.


Chinese carrier Liaoning

It was said China’s J-15 warplanes would launch from an aircraft carrier for attacks on ISIS.

Russian media followed that up by quoting Igor Morozov, a member of the Russian Federation Committee on International Affairs, confirming Chinese aircraft carrier, Lianoning, and a guided missile cruiser were heading to the area, and adding Chinese military advisers were already in the region.
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In case you didn`t realize this,......

.....Surface and subsurface shipping are obsolete to the USSR, USA, and China should the three go at it.
 
The canal is the last place to go with a Carrier at war. Just going through the Canal, means it is not war bound.
 
OddBall1st said:
No, it was Russia that supplied the war, and it was Russia that drew up the plans and executed them, Didn`t you know the Pacific Carriers secretly flew the sickle and star tied to the props ? Those were Russian planes with US markings.

If you flip Mo. upside dowm, it has made in USSR on her keel. If you look at the plaque, it reads Russian at night.
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Oh I thought it was France, my bad.
 
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