Do You Support or Oppose Capital Punishment?

Do You Support or Oppose Capital Punishment?


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UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
In the other capital punishment thread Carne Sicka came on there and said something about a "buddy hummer" so I called him a sick faggot. I don't care if he is queer, but I don't want to hear that nasty shit.
hetero-centric attitude detected.

were you aware that you could have told him that his words were not welcome without simply responding "you are a sick faggot"?

i mean, you handled it in the worst way possible if that was your only objection. i simply took your obvious bigotry and ran with it.

of course, if you are serious about wanting gay people to respect your uber-hetero qualities, you might provide the same courtesy in return and never mention the fact that you simply adore vaginas.

but that would be asking too much, i suppose. easier to simply troll the troll to death in my opinion.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Make sure to tell them how you have been baiting me all night, pussy. Now go and tell.

You have a good one too.
baiting a trap is only useful if the prey is dumb enough to take the bait.

you have stated that your main objection as that a gay member of our board discussed the gay lifestyle, i.e. a "buddy hummer".

yet you have made no effort to reciprocate. in fact, as of tonight, you were commenting on how hot you found pictures of women to be.

if you are going to demand that gays cease and desist all talk of their homosexual lifestyle, you must also cease and desist all talk of your heterosexual lifestyle or be labeled a hypocrite.

in fact, why are you not demonizing kuroitaimax for being bisexual? are you applying some sort of double standard?

don't like it? tough shit. we are intolerant of intolerance of the type and kind you express.
 

sync0s

Well-Known Member
oppose, as the justice system is imperfect.

accepting the death penalty means accepting that a certain number of innocent people will die.

not to mention that it has not been proven to be a deterrent, less costly, etc.
Ideologically I support the death penalty, but for your same first reason I agree with you. It would be less costly, however, if we didn't keep someone on death row for 10 years after they were convicted, but with things like habeas corpus and your right to appeal that is absolutely be necessary.

I don't care about it being a deterrent, I just wish we didn't have to $40k a year for the rest of their life, but for the rights of the prisoners/convicted and in the name of protecting the innocent the cost in not having a death penalty in the end is just.
 

sync0s

Well-Known Member
hetero-centric attitude detected.

were you aware that you could have told him that his words were not welcome without simply responding "you are a sick faggot"?

i mean, you handled it in the worst way possible if that was your only objection. i simply took your obvious bigotry and ran with it.

of course, if you are serious about wanting gay people to respect your uber-hetero qualities, you might provide the same courtesy in return and never mention the fact that you simply adore vaginas.

but that would be asking too much, i suppose. easier to simply troll the troll to death in my opinion.
Just remember, the people with that rash of a reaction often times are hiding from themselves.
 

Sandbagger

New Member
hetero-centric attitude detected.

were you aware that you could have told him that his words were not welcome without simply responding "you are a sick faggot"?

i mean, you handled it in the worst way possible if that was your only objection. i simply took your obvious bigotry and ran with it.

of course, if you are serious about wanting gay people to respect your uber-hetero qualities, you might provide the same courtesy in return and never mention the fact that you simply adore vaginas.

but that would be asking too much, i suppose. easier to simply troll the troll to death in my opinion.
Yes I am aware.

I will not sit anywhere and listen to homo bullshit like "buddy hummer" and will proudly let my biggot flag fly.

I could care less if a homo respects me or not. And as much as I love puss, I did mention it, you did.

When you were baiting me at first (trolling), I told you thanks 3 times before I starting giving you your shit right back. Stop acting like you are so fucking innocent. You started the name calling and general meanness before I did it to you. You acted like I called you the sick faggot and ran with it. Like I told you before, I really don't give a shit what you have to say. I have seen you trolling other people in other threads and knew what you were about long before you ever started with me. So once again thanks it's been real. Good night troll, I'm going to bed. I'll check in tomorrow to see what nonsense you have to say in my absence.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
The one and really, imo, the most important aspect is that innocent people have been, and will be, murdered because the majority of our population supports capital punishment.

We should not allow our government to have that much authority over our lives. It's counter productive to what our goals, as a nation, as a society should be.

We shouldn't be occupied with punishing criminals, we should be occupied with administering righteous justice. Real justice, that which the criminal or the innocent deserves.

It's wrong to harm any innocent person. It's wrong to condemn a person to death based on inconclusive evidence. It's wrong to judge a person based on what makes you feel good regardless of the facts.

Child rapists, rapists in general, murderers, theives, these people are terrible, but advocates of the death penalty must understand that our judicial system makes mistakes, it's not perfect, which means innocent people go to the gallows. This, to me, is unacceptable, regardless of how many people we execute justifiably.

We should not allow our government to take our lives. This is absurd. We live in a country surrounded by boundaries and laws none of us agree with 100%, this, again, to me, means such a punishment is not, and cannot be acceptable to any human being capable of compassion. You don't have to "support" what criminals do, you just have to oppose the undeniably unjust system our current government abides by.

The death of any innocent man is murder. To an honest, ethical human being, this is unacceptable. Regardless of emotion, regardless of perception. Blatant murder is unacceptable. Those that support capital punishment, I would recommend taking a good hard look at the history of the practice, what it takes to be executed, why people think other people deserve to die at the hand of the state, and how innocent people are put to death because passive approval among an uneducated population rules.

Those that are deemed 'terrorist' by the state, those that stand up for their rights who are labeled 'terrorist' deserve equal representation regardless of political affiliation. We live in 2011, in the western world with centuries of judicial practice to build upon, we know what's right, we know what's wrong. Capital punishment is obsolete, as well as those that support it.

Please consider what you are actually advocating. State sanctioned murder. By supporting capital punishment, you are giving the American government the RIGHT to kill you if they deem you a threat to the current system. Doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with whoever is president in this moment. Some other political party will control the executive branch during your lifetime, they will deem what is "appropriate" political unrest/disagreement.

Today you're a "hero", tomorrow you could very well be the "terrorist". Is this enough a reason to be executed?




Consider what I've posted. This is not an attack, but an appeal to humane behavior. I want you to think about this stuff, admitting you are wrong is a POSITIVE characteristic. You will gain respect if you admit a mistake. "Stay the course" and you get hostile responses.

Please consider what I've said. I don't want to argue, I wan't to find common ground and appeal to what is right, what is moral, what is humane. Killing innocent people because you will feel better, you must understand, isn't REAL. It's an illusion of morality. It's a false morality.

Real morality comes from within, from KNOWING what is right and acting upon it.

I hope this makes any impact at all. I apologize if you take offense to any of this, it's pure, genuine, honest. Please read this and consider it, I'm not trying to argue, I'm trying to get through.
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member

  • We shouldn't be occupied with punishing criminals, we should be occupied with administering righteous justice. Real justice, that which the criminal or the innocent deserves


A guy that just got the death penalty in the USA got it for entering a family's home, nearly beating the husband to death, then raping the wife and 14 year old daughter and killing the wife, and 2 daughters by tying them to their beds in their own home and lighting the house on fire.

Now, you go to that Husband who lost his wife, his 2 daughters, his whole life and you tell him what YOU think REAL justice is. Because as sane and logical as you want to be, there are monsters out there and they deserve nothing close to what you suggest.

We also incarcerate people for their lifetimes by accident. By your logic we should not imprison people for life because the system is not perfect. Well, since the system is not perfect maybe we dont have a right to judge eh? Let's just throw the whole judicial system out because we know from time to time it could be wrong. Yeah, that will make life in America so much better. I bet you would sleep better at night.... Well, unless your wife and kids got raped and killed and you got almost beat to death by the very people you advocate for.
 

Dizzle Frost

Well-Known Member
I voted other...i cant support it due the corrupt justice system ........but i do belive GUILTY people should die for thier crimes like rape, terrorism, child mollester/killer.

i cant say im against it becuase it has its place if the justice system was better.

For me other is street justice, just like in the cowboy days. If someone stole your horse...you shot him, if someone raped your wife or daughter.. you shot him. Rights got outa hand in this generation...kids sue parents FFS.

The death pnealty is not a deterant of any kinds...its just something extra to get in some states. Knowing everyone you were a scumbag to will slit your throat or shoot you is more of a detrant than the police IMHO.
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
When a life hangs in the balance, there can be ABSOLUTELY no margin of error. This is impossible in every case.

Life without the possibility of parole is less expensive than Capital Punishment and the result is the same. Fiscal Conservatives please take note.

The same government which writes the law is in the business of killing people who break the law. That alone should make those in the civil liberties crowd shudder.

A civilized society does not kill its own citizens intentionally.
 

wayno30

New Member
so u guys moved over here?................ im still waiting to hear how many more people your going to let them kill............thats some bullshit u guys just ignore shit when it aint what u want to believe................
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
so u guys moved over here?................ im still waiting to hear how many more people your going to let them kill............thats some bullshit u guys just ignore shit when it aint what u want to believe................
Perhaps no one has answered it because it is a ludicrous question.

Your compassion for some convicts flies in the face of your desire to kill other offenders. As such, your question is meaningless.

I submit that it is the most heinous offenders who are in danger of being killed by the other convicts, not the other way around. See Jeffrey Dahmer.

If an inmate commits murder in prison, the criminal justice system deals with him.
 

wayno30

New Member
Perhaps no one has answered it because it is a ludicrous question.

Your compassion for some convicts flies in the face of your desire to kill other offenders. As such, your question is meaningless.

I submit that it is the most heinous offenders who are in danger of being killed by the other convicts, not the other way around. See Jeffrey Dahmer.

If an inmate commits murder in prison the criminal justice system deals with him.
so its ok then if he kills more people in prison?
 

wayno30

New Member
Perhaps no one has answered it because it is a ludicrous question.

Your compassion for some convicts flies in the face of your desire to kill other offenders. As such, your question is meaningless.

I submit that it is the most heinous offenders who are in danger of being killed by the other convicts, not the other way around. See Jeffrey Dahmer.

If an inmate commits murder in prison, the criminal justice system deals with him.
its a good question ................u guys are avoiding it
 

wayno30

New Member
Perhaps no one has answered it because it is a ludicrous question.

Your compassion for some convicts flies in the face of your desire to kill other offenders. As such, your question is meaningless.

I submit that it is the most heinous offenders who are in danger of being killed by the other convicts, not the other way around. See Jeffrey Dahmer.

If an inmate commits murder in prison, the criminal justice system deals with him.
im sure if u researched it u would find hundreds if not thousands of cases where convicted killers kill again in prison..........
 

jas6118

Well-Known Member
Capital punishment is just that punishment not a deterrent. We don't use it enough imo. Example would be sandusky, how many kids lives did he destroy? Time he was skinned alive. Just my opinion I could be wrong.
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
explain y u dont care if they kill people in prison but on the street is different?
Another un-serious question.

I never made that claim.

I will make this statement, if an inmate is murdered in prison, the criminal justice system will deal with the crime.

And yes, a murder inside a prison is different from a murder in society.

so its ok then if he kills more people in prison?
No it is not okay. But prison is a dangerous place.

You have not yet established that your scenario is anything more than a baseless hypothetical.

Whereas, I provided an example where a killer facing a death sentence, until he made a plea deal, was beaten to death by another inmate.

Dahmer killed no one after he was incarcerated.

Your selective compassion indicates that your questions are not serious.

im sure if u researched it u would find hundreds if not thousands of cases where convicted killers kill again in prison..........
I am not making the claim. You are.

You research it.

But again, you favor the Death Penalty. So your compassion for the convicts is not genuine.
 
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