Do you have to decarb before baking?

qwizoking

qwizoking

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If the decarbed (properly) product is to be used in an edible and baked it will have more sedative cannabinoids in it, however the thc is altered and becomes more potent in your liver with a more visual high.. the reason most edibles are sedative is overheating

You wont get high if not decarbed or cured for a sufficient time. Wont be able to cross the blood brain barrier, need to lower the "psa" polar surface area
 
fumble

fumble

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qwizoking said:
If the decarbed (properly) product is to be used in an edible and baked it will have more sedative cannabinoids in it, however the thc is altered and becomes more potent in your liver with a more visual high.. the reason most edibles are sedative is overheating

You wont get high if not decarbed or cured for a sufficient time. Wont be able to cross the blood brain barrier, need to lower the "psa" polar surface area
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I bake all my cookies at 375f from frozen...if I lowered the heat, to 350f, would they be less sedative and more of an up high?
 
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CorrinaCorrina

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Hi everyone. New to the forum. Have been a smoker for years, now transitioning to edibles. Though I've made edibles several times, this is the first I've read about decarboxylating. After reading quite a bit, I'm still not quite clear about this process. I am making brownies. Am I to grind and oven bake my ground bud AND THEN ALSO simmer the cooled, ground, decarboxylated bud in butter for an additional amount of time, then strain it, add to batter and bake? In essence, I am decarboxylating THREE times? Sorry if I'm being dense. And thanks in advance!
 
Diabolical666

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CorrinaCorrina said:
Hi everyone. New to the forum. Have been a smoker for years, now transitioning to edibles. Though I've made edibles several times, this is the first I've read about decarboxylating. After reading quite a bit, I'm still not quite clear about this process. I am making brownies. Am I to grind and oven bake my ground bud AND THEN ALSO simmer the cooled, ground, decarboxylated bud in butter for an additional amount of time, then strain it, add to batter and bake? In essence, I am decarboxylating THREE times? Sorry if I'm being dense. And thanks in advance!
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People are going to tell you many different ways.....
The only decarbing that needs to be done is when you are making your cannabutter...grind up you weed and add it to the butter and cook it for 1hr 40 min at a low simmer...dont let it boil it will burn the sediment on the bottom...make sure you are always stirring. Use a strainer to strain out weed from butter. Some ppl do this in a crock pot all day on low...thats an option , but overkill imo. Scientist came to the conclusion that 110 degrees celsius for 110 minutes decarbs
 
bud nugbong

bud nugbong

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naaah you want to decarb in the oven before putting it in the butter. 250 F for 27 min. for fresh bud. I like to put on a baking sheet and cover with foil. Then you add it to the butter and simmer. I like to do the croc pot method for at least 12 hours. But I've done it on the stove for 30 min and still got results...I just prefer the long slow croc version.
I'm no scientist but I read that if you add non decarbed material to the butter it doesn't let the decarb process happen. Somehow it doesn't release the "acid" part, to convert THCA into THC.

I actually just made a batch today without decarbing, The bud is about 9 months old and cured so I am hopeing it decarbed naturally over time...It's really hard to find info about natural decarboxylation so I figured I would try it. I'll let you know how it goes.

Edibles for life!!
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Diabolical666 said:
People are going to tell you many different ways.....
The only decarbing that needs to be done is when you are making your cannabutter...grind up you weed and add it to the butter and cook it for 1hr 40 min at a low simmer...dont let it boil it will burn the sediment on the bottom...make sure you are always stirring. Use a strainer to strain out weed from butter. Some ppl do this in a crock pot all day on low...thats an option , but overkill imo. Scientist came to the conclusion that 110 degrees celsius for 110 minutes decarbs
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^^this


I always feel the need to say, properly made butter you must first extract hash oil or hash whatever. Decarb over a double boil and watvh it progress. Then you simply dissolve in the appropriate carrier..coconut oil is best for oral use being high in mcts




Nugbong, it will have decarbed in that timeframe at room temp
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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It will.
You can cleave the carboxyl group pretty easily. In practice this is usually done chemically like with an acid, i guess we determined heat to be much easier with stoners lol. But it will decarb naturally in about 4-5 months and is actually more efficient the lower the temp -70% at 210, 81% of the cannabinoids intact at 170.

Being in solution or "attatched" to the fat wont hinder this process
 
Diabolical666

Diabolical666

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qwizoking said:
^^this


I always feel the need to say, properly made butter you must first extract hash oil or hash whatever. Decarb over a double boil and watvh it progress. Then you simply dissolve in the appropriate carrier..coconut oil is best for oral use being high in mcts




Nugbong, it will have decarbed in that timeframe at room temp
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I make my topicals that way....lurve the coconut oil...used it on my sunburn last week...took the wicked pain right away and i didnt blister...once it calmed down and I started to peel I had water under the skin.ewwwww
 
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CorrinaCorrina

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Well, I may have to cut them really small, lol. Ground 14g of bud, covered and baked it at about 240 for about an hour. Melted 2 sticks butter (1 cup) stirred in cooled bud, simmered for about 1 and 1/2 hr. When I strained through cheesecloth, I could only remove 3/4 cup very dark liquid butter. I had planned to make 2, 13x9x2 pans, using 1/2c of cannabutter in each, 20 brownies per pan. Since I got only 3/4 cup butter out of the process, I went ahead and put it all in one batch, (one 13x9x2 pan.) Will probably cut them half the usual size. I'll try one tomorrow and see how it goes. :)
 
patman809

patman809

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so, here's my question:
I had a bunch of trim (about an ounce , maybe more) that a guy gave me. It was really harsh to smoke, but DID get me high. I threw it in a crock pot, added some olive oil and coconut oil. Let it simmer for 24 hours.

Is there anyway to decarb this, or do I need to??? I haven't tried cooking with it yet. Sopped up a bunch of the oil with an English Muffin. I ate a few bites. Nothing happened. I waited about 2 hours.

So, next, I'm going to just make some oatmeal raisin cookies. See how they do.

Thanks in advance for any help,

Pat
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Give a ratio.
Thats much longer than necessary to decarb at those temps (and the worst way to make butter). I imagine its quite sedating. Keep in mind a typical edible dose is 1-300 mg sometimes 4-5 depending tolerance so 3-4 times what you would smoke needs to be ingested for the same effect
 
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