Do you feel sorry for Hitler and Stalin??

makaha99

makaha99

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Did you know that Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin were both beaten by their fathers when they were children? In fact, both of them ended up in the hospital in a coma, after being beaten up very badly by their father. Both Hitler's and Stalin's mothers were also beaten by their fathers. Both Hitler and Stalin hated their fathers with a passion, as you can imagine. Both were incredibly heartbroken when their mothers died fairly early in their lives. They both had incredibly horrible childhoods.

I "almost" felt sorry for them when I learned about this. Notice I put "almost" in quotes, because I believe that no matter how hard your childhood was, that just does NOT justify killing millions of people, literally, in some kind of twisted revenge against the world. I was lucky that I had loving parents, and there is no way I can ever know exactly what it is like to be abused by one's parents. But I just cannot condone them for what they did, no matter how hard their childhood was. I think most people would feel the same, I think.

Having said that....if I didn't have loving parents, if I had a horrible abusive father like Hitler and Stalin had, would I have come out the same as them?? If you had a father like Hitler and Stalin had, would you end up like them?

What do you guys think?
 
makaha99

makaha99

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lahadaextranjera said:
Why the fuck would anyone feel sorry for two of the Worlds worst dictators?

Pathetic troll attempt !
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Did you have an abusive father like that?
I didn't....so I can't say what it would have been like if I were in their shoes....
Think about it for a minute....
Can you honestly say with 100% certainty that if you were in their shoes and were abused like them, you wouldn't turn out the same way as them??
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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Just because you feel sorry for them, doesn't mean you accept their poor childhood as a justification for their actions. So yeah, it's reasonable to feel bad for them, but they're still complete assholes.
 
lahadaextranjera

lahadaextranjera

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makaha99 said:
Did you have an abusive father like that?
I didn't....so I can't say what it would have been like if I were in their shoes....
Think about it for a minute....
Can you honestly say with 100% certainty that if you were in their shoes and were abused like them, you wouldn't turn out the same way as them??
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Poor excuse. Does self responsibility come into it at all? I think you need a history lesson and I know just the person for it!!

Btw, my Father and I were cool!
 
cheechako

cheechako

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makaha99 said:

What do you guys think?
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I think that since you said this in Music last December:
makaha99 said:
Honestly, I was just doing it to get views on my videos. As I mentioned before, Matt Makaha isn't even a real name. Makaha is a place on the west side of the island of Oahu. On the internet, you can be whoever you want. Actually, I just changed the title of the video on YouTube to try to get more views.

I'm hoping to get more views on this hilarious marijuana music video I made of a song I wrote complete with animation, I play guitar and sing on this song but there's no guitar solo on this song though: (link removed)
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...that you've figured out a new marketing ploy. As much as I hated your last one, I am impressed that you came up with something much, much worse.
 
makaha99

makaha99

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lahadaextranjera said:
Poor excuse. Does self responsibility come into it at all? I think you need a history lesson and I know just the person for it!!

Btw, my Father and I were cool!
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Well, you just admitted that you had a good relationship with your dad, as I did.

I came across quite a few social workers when we were looking for a nursing home for my Dad, and one of them said to me that for some people, the cycle of violence does repeat if their parents were abusers.

Back then during Hitler's time, I don't know if social workers were as much a part of society in Germany as they are now, but I can't help but think that maybe if a social worker had intervened in Hitler's situation somehow, maybe he might have not turned out as bad/hateful as he ended up being....

And hypothetically, what if some information came out today that Hitler did try to get psychiatric help, but still couldn't overcome his issues, would people today have a different view of him, because he tried to get help??
 
Granny weed

Granny weed

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I had a father that could be abusive mainly from alcohol, I was regularly beaten for things like being late in or being seen with boys but I loved him and he could be loving and funny and kind, he always used to say I would bring trouble to the door and on accasion I did and I knew about it! However the two men you speak of turned into control freaks who got people to do their dirty work for them they were bullies in effect just like their fathers were to them and their mothers so I guess being beaten and bullied did have some effect on them, but what they did was in excusable and I don't think anyone would feel an ounce of pity for them.
 
TheGanjaWhisperer

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Both Hitler and Stalin dont deserve sympathy for the people they became. The two little children beatin, abused, lost their mothers are the ones I feel sorry for. Neither one should have been so horribly treated, their fathers set the mould for who they became. What would have happened if someone intervened and took both children out of the situations, got them help and taught them to cope with it. Sadly that was not the case and both men choose the wrong path and became the horrible monsters we seem them as today. I never knew either background of Stalin or Hitler and after finding slightly out about it I can sort of understand why they became the way they did. If only someone had saved either child, maybe things would be different.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Having an abusive dad doesn't guarantee that you'd want to take over the world and do bad things to it. I mean, think of Jesus.

(sits down hard, scowls, fidgets) cn
 
TheGanjaWhisperer

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cannabineer said:
Having an abusive dad doesn't guarantee that you'd want to take over the world and do bad things to it. I mean, think of Jesus.

(sits down hard, scowls, fidgets) cn
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Of course not, my father was a peice of shit to my mother and I growing up until he left, I didnt go out and mass torture and kill off people. Some people cant handle the situation or they're psychopaths themselves and end up repeating the cycle, alot of know serial killers had abusive childhoods growing up. Hitler and Stalin just took that shit to some next level.
 
slowbus

slowbus

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TheGanjaWhisperer said:
Of course not, my father was a peice of shit to my mother and I growing up until he left, I didnt go out and mass torture and kill off people. Some people cant handle the situation or they're psychopaths themselves and end up repeating the cycle, alot of know serial killers had abusive childhoods growing up. Hitler and Stalin just took that shit to some next level.
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