Do you believe Americans who work full time should earn a living wage?
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Padawanbater2
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That's going to happen eventually, when technology reaches a certain point, most estimates range from 2030-2040 (robot revolution)
So take a guess what's going to happen to the country if the tens of millions of unskilled/minimum wage workers get replaced by robots and we have the same economic disparity that we do today?
Do you think being in a gated community will matter? I'm working on a bbq sauce recipe right now just for the occasion!
sheskunk
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Pay attention, it's already happening.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=self+checkout
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=self+order+kiosk
I can't wait to go into work tomorrow and demand my 40% raise. lol
Whats wrong with being handed wealth? It wasn't anyone else's to have, so the rightful heir is whoever the fuck that person wants to give it to.
Should we ban the lotto too? Since it is technically, just handing people wealth.
Padawanbater2
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Your employer receives a 40% tax credit for your felon-ass, the fact you might have worked for him before fucks HIM over. Why do you insist on hurting those that help you?
So your bbq sauce against people who don't want you at their bbq, and this is after the free for all whistle has been blown?
I'm sure you'll walk right in.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
omg, we went over this already.. his employer gets a fat zero from him in tax credits, not a red cent, since, well, he was an employee before being a felon..
and secondly, it's a cap of $2400, so unless he makes some where around $5200 a year, which i highly doubt, that's no where near 40% of his salary..
repeating the same bull shit over and over doesn't make it any more true the fifth and sixth time you say it..
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Padawanbater2
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You're just precious..
My bbq sauce is to slather silly rich folk in who think being in a gated community will protect them when the tides of starving poor and middle class come for them
Look up Louis XI for a preview of what's to come if nothing substantial changes
sheskunk
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You gots the dumbs.
"Employers who hire people meeting these or other criteria may reduce the amount they owe on their federal taxes by as much as $2,400." http://www.ca.db101.org/ca/programs/work_benefits/wotc/program2.htm
"Tax credits are $1,200 for youths hired for summer jobs, $4,800 for veterans with disabilities, $9,000 for long-term recipients of Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, and $2,400 for other adults." http://ceac.org/employers/ask_the_edd_expert/work_opportunity_tax_credit/
"If an employer hires someone in one of the first eight target groups above, and that person works at least 400 hours during their first 12 months on the job, the employer can claim a 40 percent tax credit on the first $6,000 they pay that person. That amounts to a maximum tax credit of $2,400." http://www.ca.db101.org/ca/programs/work_benefits/wotc/program2.htm
UncleBuck
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so why do we have to pay $2,400 of your paycheck instead of your employer?
your employer should bear that burden and work it into the costs of his product or service instead of lumping th costs onto people that had nothing to do with your history.
why are you so entitled as to take money out of our pockets?
Padawanbater2
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Are you denying the fact felons employers receive a tax credit for employing them? (thereby confirming Bucks initial assertion)
I concede he, and I by association, is wrong about the 40% figure, that's fine, but for you to assume there's no benefit for businesses hiring felons is egregious. That's the point.
I'm assuming you're one of the "no" votes, yes? So why don't you think people working full time should earn a living wage? Can you explain that, or would you rather just jump on the tails of those that have already lost? In which case, you too have lost, check the votes: 27 for, 12 against, (15 indifferent, NOT against, NOT for)
sheskunk
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Your point was that I make a living wage because my employer has the government paying 40% of my pay.
You failed so now you are trying to chance your stance. Just like you are trying to change the voting statistics.
I didn't vote. I have a right to not have my vote publicly displayed. That fact that none of your polls are private exposes your agenda right out of the gate.
Why haven't you just offed yourself yet?
UncleBuck
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let's heck the 2014 state voting tallies instead!
Arkansas Issue 5
ResultVotesPercentage
Yes548,78965.94%No283,52434.06%
Election results via: Arkansas Secretary of State
Text of measure
Ballot title
The following popular name and ballot title were certified for circulation by the Arkansas Attorney General:[2]
“
Popular Name:
An Act to Increase the Arkansas Minimum Wage
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
cry harder ya little bitch!
Nebraska Initiative 425
ResultVotesPercentage
Yes311,40159.47%No212,21540.53%
Election results via: Nebraska Secretary of State
Text of the measure
Ballot title
The official ballot text read as follows:[4]
“A vote “FOR” will amend the Nebraska statute establishing a minimum wage rate for employees to increase
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
WAAAHHHHHH!!!!
cry like a little bitch, FDD.
South Dakota Measure 18
ResultVotesPercentage
Yes150,81955.05%
No123,16744.95%
Election results via: South Dakota Secretary of State Office
Text of measure
Ballot title
The ballot title was as follows:[3]
“An initiated measure to increase the state minimum wage.
[4]
cry like a little bitch, FDD.
South Dakota Measure 18
ResultVotesPercentage
Yes150,81955.05%No123,16744.95%
Election results via: South Dakota Secretary of State Office
Text of measure
Ballot title
The ballot title was as follows:[3]
“An initiated measure to increase the state minimum wage.
[4]
UncleBuck
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WAAAAAHHHH!!!! STOP IT RED STATES!!!!! STOP BEING SO ENTITLED YOU RED STATES!
Alaska Ballot Measure 3
ResultVotesPercentage
Yes194,65469.35%
No86,04030.65%
Election results via: Alaska Division of Elections
Text of measure
Ballot title
The official ballot title of this measure read as follows:[5]
“
Ballot Measure No. 3 - 13MINW An Act to Increase Alaska’s Minimum Wage[6]
”
Alaska Ballot Measure 3
ResultVotesPercentage
Yes194,65469.35%No86,04030.65%
Election results via: Alaska Division of Elections
Text of measure
Ballot title
The official ballot title of this measure read as follows:[5]
“
Ballot Measure No. 3 - 13MINW An Act to Increase Alaska’s Minimum Wage[6]
”
Padawanbater2
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No, I was admittedly wrong about that, and I conceded, like every self respecting man should when they're wrong about something.
The voting stats speak for themselves; 27 for a living wage, 12 against, right there in black and white for anyone to read for themselves. I'm sorry your argument wasn't persuasive, that's the fault of the strength of the argument, or in your case, weakness
LMAO!!
So proud of his vote he doesn't want others to know..
What a fucking joke you are
I'm proud of my stances and I can defend them accordingly. You're not and you can't, that's why you don't want anyone to know what sort of scum-racist-sexist-bullshit you vote for
The least I can thank you for is your honesty in being a scumbag
sheskunk
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So you start a poll with 3 options yet refuse to even acknowledge the third one? Talk about rigged.
It's my right as a US citizen to vote privately. Why do you hate civil liberties?
abandonconflict
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