do u use cfl?

cap master

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do u use a micro grow, pc grow box, cfl or florescents. what do u do to get higher yields, higher resin output and faster production. what are the best methods for u personally? id like to hear from anyone, all sugjestions are welcome.
 

zubey91

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I get 2-3 ounces dry off one 2.5 foot plant, i usuall have 15 23w lights on 2 plants, i rotate everyday, I trim the lower branches so the top ones explode...


i use large wardrobe uhul box aligned with mylar look my grows up. You cant speed it up.
 

TheDude0007

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I get 2-3 ounces dry off one 2.5 foot plant, i usuall have 15 23w lights on 2 plants, i rotate everyday, I trim the lower branches so the top ones explode...


i use large wardrobe uhul box aligned with mylar look my grows up. You cant speed it up.
In my mind a ounce is 28 grams so you claim 84 grams off one plant. mmmm Very good result if true...... maybe your ounce is smaller than mine.
 

zubey91

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It is 28 grams a z..... And yes i get 2-3 ounces DRY off 2.5 foot plant not 84 each time but ive never got less than 2 zs.. Every grow i do.... If True??? why would i lie to bunch of peeps i dont know..? i could care less if anyone believes me.. anyway i recorded 2 grows on here go look! I also use 15 bulbs for 2 plants lol
 

cap master

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i believe it a couple ounces isnt uncommon. i always grew outside with satisfiing results. last year i switched to micro cfl and fluro due to moving to a small aptment and my very first grow was in a pc with only 2 13w cfls (bc i didnt have a grow cab then) and i got about 10g off a way too small female. i didnt veg any more than a week or 2 and then 12/12. i was very upset the buds werent too dense and the plant didnt shoot up durring flower like i had expected. but now i have better veging plants verry full with branches. 3 famales in 1pc and i have a cabnet that i want to make a flower chamber or as a mother plant veg chamber. i would expect up to 3 oz off only 6 55w cfls. iv seen some that claim close to a pound in a pc after lst, fimming, scroging, and vegging 3-4 weeks one plant per pc.
 

cap master

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i believe it a couple ounces isnt uncommon. i always grew outside with satisfiing results. last year i switched to micro cfl and fluro due to moving to a small aptment and my very first grow was in a pc with only 2 13w cfls (bc i didnt have a grow cab then) and i got about 10g off a way too small female. i didnt veg any more than a week or 2 and then 12/12. i was very upset the buds werent too dense and the plant didnt shoot up durring flower like i had expected. but now i have better veging plants verry full with branches. 3 famales in 1pc and i have a cabnet that i want to make a flower chamber or as a mother plant veg chamber. i would expect up to 3 oz off only 6 55w cfls. iv seen some that claim close to a pound in a pc after lst, fimming, scroging, and vegging 3-4 weeks one plant per pc.
 

johnmac240

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its all in the training if your going to use cfls lst and open the bitch up so more light can get threw, for a pc grow box i had 1 23 watt 2700k light and 1 23watt 6500k on top and a 23watt 6500k on the side and she liked it!
 

B166ER420

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When I use 3ltr bottles,12/12fs,I usually get 42g per.Sometimes more,sometimes less.When I use 5g buckets,5week veg,I get over 5z per.....I use 2 cfl fixtures(304w,368w) when doing 12/12 and 1 fixture over one plant in a 5g bucket.

To answer your question....12/12 from seed with short flowering time strains is the fastest way to produce.GL.peace
 

cap master

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i dont have the recorces to many strains orr genetics to choose from i only have a bag seed strain iv mannaged to keep
 

zubey91

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i believe it a couple ounces isnt uncommon. i always grew outside with satisfiing results. last year i switched to micro cfl and fluro due to moving to a small aptment and my very first grow was in a pc with only 2 13w cfls (bc i didnt have a grow cab then) and i got about 10g off a way too small female. i didnt veg any more than a week or 2 and then 12/12. i was very upset the buds werent too dense and the plant didnt shoot up durring flower like i had expected. but now i have better veging plants verry full with branches. 3 famales in 1pc and i have a cabnet that i want to make a flower chamber or as a mother plant veg chamber. i would expect up to 3 oz off only 6 55w cfls. iv seen some that claim close to a pound in a pc after lst, fimming, scroging, and vegging 3-4 weeks one plant per pc.

I vegg until its about a foot to 1.5, works out great for my wardrobe box
 

Nuikala

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Big yield under CFL isnt THAT hard. I have a Big Bang i am EXPECTING 3 Z's off of.
Depending how big your space is- Grow in a 3 gallon (min) container. Use a Fabric Pot (smart pot) or a fabric grocery bag works awesome, i use em. Bags promote MUCH faster root growth, way more O2 to the roots. More roots means bigger yield.
LST the plants ALOT, train those girls. bend down all the branches so they grow out, not up. (i got 21 tops on a 8 inch tall plant). Bend the top(s) down BELOW the other branches, this will change hormone levels, causing the plant to put equal energy into the branch as the real top. More 'tops' means more yield.
I like to trim the large fan leaves that block light. Most weed plants like a little bit of defoliation. Alot of people Lolipop (cut off) the lower branches to send more energy to the top of the plant to get bigger top buds. I dont, but i use the small buds for wax/bho. If you want fatter colas, lolipop it.
Top you plant at least once. Turn 1 top cola into two. FIM it you will get 2 tops, or even 4 maybe. Ive never gotten 4 but some do. You can even top the ends of branches too, depending on how long u plan to veg.
Use as much light as possible (obvious one). Use SIDE LIGHTING. Keep CFL's pretty close to the plant. i keep 2-4 inches from mine. 5000-6500k for VEG, 2700k for flowering(mix a little 6500k in there too).
PH your water every time you water. I never used to and ALWAYS got too high PH about a week into flower.
Flush the plant at least once during veg, before switching to flowering nutes. Flush again at week 5 of flowering with PH'd water 6.2-6.8. \
Let the soil DRY before watering, i used to stunt my plants by overwatering all the time. Not too much of an issue with the fabric pots/bags.
They sell all kinds of bud boosters and big bud crap, i bet it all doesnt do much. Mostly its molasses lol, and cane sugars and carbs. Add 1tsp of molasses per gallon every watering, or every second watering. keeps the soil microbes happy and alive, keeping ph levels steady, allowing for better root growth and nutrient absorption, which leads to big yields.
2 weeks before harvest, flush the plants out good to remove all remaining nutrients for a smoother smoke.
Another quick tip i learned from too many f$%k ups during transplanting. If you use a Solo or plastic cup for your seedling, u can cut the bottom 3/4 off of the cup so its like a flap. That way, when u see roots at the bottom of the cup, u can cut the rest of the bottom off and stick the cup right into your new 3 gallon or bigger pot. No transplant stress whatsoever. Excellent tip for Autos to avoid stunting their growth. I just tried an experiment where i have 2 diesels in solo cup, one was removed for transplant, the other i cut the bottom off the cup, and the one removed from transplant has been stunted for almost a week now, while the other didnt even know anything happened and just continued growing, uninterrupted.
good luck, peace
 

cap master

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my sativa mother is 8inchs tall also. she has 34 terminal shoots (tops) so i have proof how well training works. im growing micro and iv experimented with every thing but sog and scrog i have an indica plant i just lst with which has about 7 or 8 tops, an indica i just topped which has two main stems with about 16-18 tops all these plants are under 10 inchs. my sativa i first shortened up by lsting the stem below any branch nodes after the first set of leaves and the three pronged leaves fell off. i bent the plant slowly in a complete verticle circle and kept it growing straight up. this ultimately may shorten her up to 4 inches. then i topped her splitting it into two main stems once the plant reached 3 branch nodes high, this way the 6 branches below the split will grow out long and can also be topped. once the plant has re established from the shock and grown two seperate main stems let them grow up two more nodes and then fim them this has created a triple main stem on each side of the origional split. 6 top colas! not including the other 12 (tops)!!! these have accured below the split, off from the 6 main branches wich were topped. to get as many tops as i have and possibly many many more the upper branches i then super crop. by pinching the stem slightly below the termanal shoots and bending the tops that are highest to the light source this diverts the energy back down to lower nodes on the plant and convinces the plant that it has no top and needs to create more on whatever branches are chosen to be cropped. after the main stems get so long they will start to stagger into many nodes doing this for me has created a bansai looking bushy plant. u can then seperate the branches a little and the longer they get the more light penetration. i also trim any leaves that get to be over 4 inches long at leaste till i can finish my mother plants chamber i will. i also use superthrive when transplanting. i swear by it. it creates strong root systems, gives your plants beneficial micro nutes and helps them recover from any transplant within a few days. i use 2400k-2700k for both my cycles atm bc i dont have resources to cool bulbs right now. once my plant reaches a foot foot and a half in the new box itll be a monster. if anyone has any ideas to further my monster yeild process please feel free to leave me ur suggestions.
 
for real, it's really not hard to pull of a few zips per plant using cfl's. I veg with around 425w and flower with around 650w. I do about a 5 week veg and flower till trichs r ready. My set up is roughly a 2x6 closet that has enough room to fit 3 5 gal and an oscillating fan. I'm a personal grower tryin to push out as much as my babies will give me :hump:. I'll usually have 3 going in flower and 3 in veg and I've done some experience over the years. I've experimented with topping, lst, and lollipopping and I've found that with my set up I can pull an average of 40 g's per plant when I just leave it to grow how nature intended it. If I top once I can usually get around 2 oz's and if I top 2-3 times I can get 2.5-3.5 oz's. I like to lollipop cuz I'm not a fan of small popcorn budz and If I lollipop my colas will increase significantly. I don't go overboard tho, just cut the bottom 1/3. I also LST all the colas so light can penetrate in the middle and lower growth can shoot up the middle. Just like Nuikala I trim fan leaves that block bud sites. Seems to really ripen those nugz up over time. I use a mix of spectrum as well during flower. If I'm running 650 watts I'll usually do 600w of 2700k and 50w of 6500k. I've also heard that switching half or more of your lights to 6500k daylight spectrum the last two weeks of flower helps to "ripen" the buds. I'm going to try it sometime soon. Anyone know anymore info about that?
 

cap master

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i dissagree with the spectrums. i always used 6500k for veg and 2400-2700k for flower bc the 2400-2700 is a warmer color it simulates closest to the fall months light spectrum. the 6500k on the other hand is much more vibrant and more like daylights spectrum in the spring or summer.. i do believe it will help yeilds if u mix the spectrums durring flower period but keeping the 2400-2700k lights dominant.
 
I have a question, I have a 250 watt cfl and a 125 watt cfl 6500k, I will put a 200 watt bulb in the 125 for flowering, self ballasted bulbs, how far do I want them off the plants, since obviously they are quite a bit hotter than a 23 watt cfl, and right now I'm having a little trouble keeping temps down so I don't want to put them the closest they can be, looking more for the furthest they can be with optimal light penetration, they are in a 3x3x4 box that's painted flat white
 

cap master

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i wouldnt advise putting them girls any farther than 7-8 inches away. any farther than that and theyll start to stretch and if theyre closer they will be able to obsorb more light.
 
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