Do my clones look normal??

Cabby

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Got them a few days ago they ha look healthy but I do not know what happen I have 2 42watt 150watt equivalent each also a 23watt I had just watered them and I'm thinking maybe over watering because it was clawing down but I'm not sure what about the leaves in read its normal it means it's eating and focusing on root so idk might be nothing just wanted to get other views any advice would help thanks
 

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Moebius

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Yes, stop over watering them and let them dry out a bit. They'll be fine.

You should start cloning yourself, its so easy and you won't be precious about losing any in future. Goodluck.
 

RollupRick

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I find when cloning that for the first few weeks some will take nicely, others will suffer quite a bit and look quite bad. But appearances can be deceptive, how would you feel if you had the trauma of getting sliced etc. A little TLC goes a long way, give them a nice environment, correct nutes, proper light and its amazing how hardy these beautiful stinky ladies can be.

Before you clone, you want them to be strong in vegetative growth, have enough nodes, ideally take them from the lower end of the main stalk. A good rule to follow is to count down 4 branches from the tip of an off-branch, and slice there, although that rule can be flexible.

Case in point, I took a clone from a very young lower branch, from a plant that was near pre-flowering, in other words I broke all the damn rules, making me a hypocrit. So not only did this clone have to get its roots down, it had to switch state to a more pure vegetative state again. This was partly because I was experimenting, and partly because I was monged off my tits, lol ... at first she didn't take well, one main leaf started dying from the tip back, until I was left with 1 and a half leafies, but surprisingly, against all the odds she's started to recover. That to me is a testiment to how hardy these things can be. Cloning isn't anything special or clever, its very easy with a wee bit of research. Once again, genetics come into play, some plants don't respond well by nature to cloning, others flourish.

Heres the pup I was just referring to ...

Initial freshly cut, in humidity dome:
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As you can see, the leafies aren't looking that great, they got a lot worse than that, I was sure it would be a right-off.

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This is them now, they're actually recovering nicely, the stalk is thickening, and you can tell that roots must be taking hold for that to happen. Good result really, considering how rough/wrong taking that clone was.

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Moral of this story is its difficult to get cloning wrong - if this fooker survived, you'd have to fook up badly to do it wrong :-o

Also IMO its a good idea to mist fresh clones rather than water them - until the roots are re-established the plant can't supply itself water, so needs to suck it up through the leaf. Fresh cut clones getting watered does nothing, as theres no roots to absorb and distribute it to the plant. You'll know when the roots are established or at least working on it, because there will be a degree of growth and it'll perk up a bit.

Edit: Also an observation, that isn't enough light for them IMO, if you're running CFL you're going to want to lower the lights as close to the plants as you dare, plus see about investing in some more bulbs ... I personally use CFL's and love them, 125w warm white x 2 (equivilent to around 325w incand each), plus multiple 65w (equivilent to around 125w incand) cold white, positioned around the grow/between plants. This allows you to distribute slightly lower wattage lights, but you have more light sources, which penetrate the plants from various angles. In your pics it looks like the plants are showing classic signs of unnecessary stretching as they stretch to try and get closer to the light. Right now I'm running about 1000w equiv (using half that in energy demand), covering about 6 plants - and I intend to invest in even more, the more the better, even if you split the actual total wattage across multiple light sources so the plants can benefit from all angles.

Many have a low opinion of CFL's, but used right they're freaking awesome, if my plants get any bushier I'll need a fooking machette to check the stems, pmsl
 

Cabby

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Thanks and how about the dead leafs shoud I leave them on? if you can see there is a leaf that is dry and curled up do I leave it I don't want it to waste energy if it's just dying you know.
 

Cabby

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The rockwool there in and soil both fill dry not damp at all I last watered them on the 4th
 

Cabby

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Why type of nutes some guy at a shop told me not to use any on it that there too young and I have seein clones grown with less light than I got on them[/QUOTE]That's not what I said.

All I'm saying is more light, will help them out.

Well do what he says then?:shock:


Ok I put another light in is there any thing else I can give them or do I would like to lower the lights more but I don't wanna dry them up
 

Moebius

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So that clawing he is having And that dried orange looking leaves is from over watering?
The 'orange' is burn. It occurred earlier in growth and isnt relevant.

The downward clawing is from not allowing the substrate to dry out before watering ... and/or... possibly a heavy mix soil with poor aeration.
 
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