Do most bad seeds become Hermies?

TYPO!! I meant BAG SEEDS not bad... I didn't notice before I posted.. sorry..

I have wondered this, because my first grow they were hermies.. and the current plants in my PC are hermies. WTF?
I have some babies vegging right now, but If all the ladies are just going to be shems.. I don't even want to waste my time. Because I have Citral, and one of it's clones. Before sex. So I would just end up throwing them out, before they infect the citral.. Any input would be awesome. Thanks.

i think hermies are caused from too much stress(transplanting, irregular light schedules, etc)
or if the seeds were from a mother plant that was itself a hermie.

its 50/50. Plants usually turn shemale due to stress, light leaks, and a few other variables brought on by the grower. first bagseed I ever grow i started 4 plants, and oddly enough i got 2 males and 2 females. sometimes you will get lucky and get all girls, or unlucky with all boys, but if you are having a problem with your plants herming out on ya I think you need to check to make sure you are mimicking the outdoors as best as possible in your grow room, with no light leaks!!!

siccmade420 said:

i think hermies are caused from too much stress(transplanting, irregular light schedules, etc)
or if the seeds were from a mother plant that was itself a hermie.

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They were in my PC tower, same pot from seedling. I need to transplant if anything.. the light schedule is a normal 12/12 right now, but it was on in the beginning 24/0, then to 20/4 now 12/12. But the history of the plant..? I have no freaking chance at a clue.... It's some good ass random bag seed I've acquired in from the past few months.. So it could be Genetics..?

OGKush00 said:

its 50/50. Plants usually turn shemale due to stress, light leaks, and a few other variables brought on by the grower. first bagseed I ever grow i started 4 plants, and oddly enough i got 2 males and 2 females. sometimes you will get lucky and get all girls, or unlucky with all boys, but if you are having a problem with your plants herming out on ya I think you need to check to make sure you are mimicking the outdoors as best as possible in your grow room, with no light leaks!!!

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The only thing I can think of other than the possible heat flucuation would be the light leaking.. hmm.. I'll have to try and do something about that. If I'm lucky, that's all it is.

sounds good. i'd look into the light leaks for sure but ur light schedule going from 24/0, 20/4, then 12/12 might have triggered it too

Simple way to tell man is if u get weak bud that has alot of seeds in it then chances r it has come from a hermie plant.. Plus if the baggie u get has the very distinct yellow flowers in it then ur looking at a Hermie mother 4 sure..

You want to know why you get alot of hermies with that bagseed? Because the reason those seeds are in there, is because the females were pollinated by hermies. Some big commercial growers don't have time to pick out hermies, so they just let them go and get the extra weight from all the seeds. They don't give a crap about quality like we do, all they care about is weight.

I'm sure there are some who leave males in the bloom room to get extra weight, but those seeds would be okay. So, you likely got seeds from a situation similar to the reason above.

jawbrodt said:

You want to know why you get alot of hermies with that bagseed? Because the reason those seeds are in there, is because the females were pollinated by hermies. Some big commercial growers don't have time to pick out hermies, so they just let them go and get the extra weight from all the seeds. They don't give a crap about quality like we do, all they care about is weight.

I'm sure there are some who leave males in the bloom room to get extra weight, but those seeds would be okay. So, you likely got seeds from a situation similar to the reason above.

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That doesnt sound like any commercial grower i've ever heard of.. Sounds like they r purposely giving themselves an inferior product (less resin production etc) and as far as more weight goes then u couldnt b more wrong my friend.. My worst yeild was 2 plants that Hermied on me (1st grow from shitty seed) and i got just under 3oz off the 2 plants that shouldve yielded well above a pound.
..Though that is with the seeds missing, but all up there was probably only 100g of seeds, so im still over 9ozs short..

siccmade420 said:

sounds good. i'd look into the light leaks for sure but ur light schedule going from 24/0, 20/4, then 12/12 might have triggered it too

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It could have been the light change? It's only in a PC box right now.. but when my Citral comes up a little bit. I might just chop those little Hermaphrodites down, to make room for one little baby Citral. I'll run 12/12 nothing different.

XxNinjaxX said:

Simple way to tell man is if u get weak bud that has alot of seeds in it then chances r it has come from a hermie plant.. Plus if the baggie u get has the very distinct yellow flowers in it then ur looking at a Hermie mother 4 sure..

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hmm..damn it.. I believe It hay just have been a Hermie mother? damn damn damn damn damn !!!!

jawbrodt said:

You want to know why you get alot of hermies with that bagseed? Because the reason those seeds are in there, is because the females were pollinated by hermies. Some big commercial growers don't have time to pick out hermies, so they just let them go and get the extra weight from all the seeds. They don't give a crap about quality like we do, all they care about is weight.

I'm sure there are some who leave males in the bloom room to get extra weight, but those seeds would be okay. So, you likely got seeds from a situation similar to the reason above.

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I've thought about that before, but I thought seed production decreased the total yield?

XxNinjaxX said:

That doesnt sound like any commercial grower i've ever heard of.. Sounds like they r purposely giving themselves an inferior product (less resin production etc) and as far as more weight goes then u couldnt b more wrong my friend.. My worst yeild was 2 plants that Hermied on me (1st grow from shitty seed) and i got just under 3oz off the 2 plants that shouldve yielded well above a pound.
..Though that is with the seeds missing, but all up there was probably only 100g of seeds, so im still over 9ozs short..

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Well, the weight thing was just a guess. What I was saying is that some growers don't give a crap, and don't bother to look for hermies, possibly because they have too many plants to tend to. Also, I'm talking about the garbage brickweed that is around my area, which is terrible stuff. Catches you a little buzz, then turns into a headache shortly after.LOL

Sometimes I wonder if large outside operations, like big fields in Columbia, even bother to pick out the occasional males or hermies. The seeds have to come from somewhere, so I figured they were using feminized seeds and left the hermies out there in the field. I read something like that before, which is where I got the info. Never heard anything firsthand, but it made sense at the time.

So if my Citral some how got pollinated by the hermies, would it destroy the quality of the smoke? I know it will decrease the yield.. I also know I wouldn't use the seeds.. I want to flower the plants I have now, but If they will just end up raping my citral, I want nothing to do with them. I'm sure this is understandable? Right?

jawbrodt said:

Well, the weight thing was just a guess. What I was saying is that some growers don't give a crap, and don't bother to look for hermies, possibly because they have too many plants to tend to. Also, I'm talking about the garbage brickweed that is around my area, which is terrible stuff. Catches you a little buzz, then turns into a headache shortly after.LOL

Sometimes I wonder if large outside operations, like big fields in Columbia, even bother to pick out the occasional males or hermies. The seeds have to come from somewhere, so I figured they were using feminized seeds and left the hermies out there in the field. I read something like that before, which is where I got the info. Never heard anything firsthand, but it made sense at the time.

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I've heard something similar. I mean honestly, if I had like 3 acres of plants, I don't know if I would go through there and pull every single male? It would be an annoyingly tedious process..

As far as the decreased yield and quality....I guess that would depend on how bad the hermie traits are, and whether you've let them pollinate or not. I've only had one hermie myself, and I picked off the pods and it produced great, and the smoke was excellent too. It wasn't a full-blown hermie though, had a few pods, and a bunch of those little banana-looking things.

jawbrodt said:

Well, the weight thing was just a guess. What I was saying is that some growers don't give a crap, and don't bother to look for hermies, possibly because they have too many plants to tend to. Also, I'm talking about the garbage brickweed that is around my area, which is terrible stuff. Catches you a little buzz, then turns into a headache shortly after.LOL

Sometimes I wonder if large outside operations, like big fields in Columbia, even bother to pick out the occasional males or hermies. The seeds have to come from somewhere, so I figured they were using feminized seeds and left the hermies out there in the field. I read something like that before, which is where I got the info. Never heard anything firsthand, but it made sense at the time.

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..It makes sense to me that commercial growers are there for the money.. In saying that dont u think they would be using clones?? Otherwise they r wasting time and effort on plants that will never see them profit.