DMT, Setting Forth to Hyperspace

floridasucks

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lol one time my buddy had this RED dmt.. forgot what he called but he said that shit was vigorously intense straight grabs you by the balls =D
two interesting posts about "red" dmt aka jungle spice.

Impurities aren't necessarily a bad thing.

Consider the alkaloids present in 100 grams of Anadenanthera colubrina:

N-Methyltryptamine (NMT)
dimethyltryptamine (DMT)
dimethyltryptamine N-Oxide (DMT N-Oxide)
Serotonin
N-Methylserotonin
5-methoxy-methyltryptamine (5-MeO-NMT)
5-methoxy-dimethyltryptamine (5-MeO-DMT, methoxybufotenine)
5-hydroxy-dimethyltryptamine (5-HO-DMT, bufotenine)
5-hydroxy-dimethyltryptamine N-Oxide (5-HO-DMT N-Oxide, bufotenine N-Oxide )
2-methyl-1,2,3,4-tetrahydro-9H-pyrido[3,4-b]indole
2-methyl-6-methoxy-1,2,3,tetrahydro-9H-pyrido[3,4-b]indole
1,2-dimethyl-6-methoxy-1,2,3,4-tetrahydro-9H-pyrido[3,4-b]indole

The last three are harmala type alkaloids.

If you were to extract all of the alkaloids, your extract would be about 5 grams of extremely hallucinogenic pure amber crystals no matter how well you cleaned them. The alkaloid mix is about 10 times more hallucinogenic than DMT is alone. The color comes from the combination of the other alkaloids present in Anadenanthera colubrina. If you were to remove them, and were left with pure DMT, you'd be sorry you did. You're extract would shrink to such an extent that you'd hardly have enough to use for 1 DMT session. In the case of Anadenanthera colubrina, discarding the DMT would actually be beneficial because it dilutes the alkaloids with its very low potency. Most of the other alkaloids present are active at doses of 10 mg or less smoked.

In most accounts I’ve read, the red DMT is stronger than pure white DMT.

The red DMT could very well be a mix of DMT and the harmala type alkaloid known as N-methyltetrahydro-beta-carboline, reported by some to be present in Mimosa hostilis. This MAOI could increase the potency of the DMT.


Read more: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58835#ixzz1LVHuVdRq

Red DMT that is extracted from Mimosa hostilis using xylene, chloroform or ether, instead of using naphtha or heptane, is sometimes called “Jungle Spice”. It's more potent because there's another alkaloid present in it. No one knows for sure what the additional alkaloid is that's causing the red coloring. But removing it reduces the potency. Beware, the red DMT can be much stronger than pure DMT. It should be tested at a low dose of 5 mg smoked before moving up. In some reports, 15 mg of this red DMT is VERY POWERFUL.

In many cases the red coloring is plant material that wasn’t properly removed from the extracted DMT. In this case the DMT will be weaker and probably harder to smoke.

The best cleanup procedure for DMT is a freeze precipitation. Here’s the details.

Dissolve the DMT in warm naphtha or heptane. Use just enough to dissolve the DMT. The unknown red alkaloid from some Mimosa extractions, if present, will settle to the bottom. Some plant material might also setting to the bottom. While warm, filter out anything that settles to the bottom.

Next, place the solvent in the freezer overnight. The DMT will form white crystals on the bottom because it’s insoluble in cold naphtha. Most of the other impurities will remain in the naphtha. Pour off the naphtha and you should have a much purer product that will look white or more often slightly yellow or slightly amber.


Read more: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58835#ixzz1LVIwbI4Y
 

cocobuds

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My DMT has only ever been snow white. I had always heard about a yellow tint, so when I made my first extraction, and it came out looking like snow flakes, I actually thought I had done it wrong. Ive pulled about 3 grams out of this pound and still got more pulls to make.
 

bestbuds09

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ive been really wanting to try/make dmt. how long does it usually take to make dmt and how much does it cost to make it as well....
 

Karmapuff

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Yup about $100 and a basic knowledge of chemistry.
Still waiting patiently on my mimosa... I need to dye some things purple :)

 

ndangerspecimen101

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I'm having visions of the WINAMP visualizer inside my head... it must be all the enrapturing tales of this thread :D

Another Sub-dub'ed fan!
 

cocobuds

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By 'basic knowledge' he means, "know how to measure liquid and be fucking careful when you mess with lye". The only chemistry Ive ever had was about decade ago in 10th grade. My only D in high school... You gonna dye some shoes? some tshirts? maybe some eggs? Everything looks better after you dye it purple.
 

bestbuds09

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^^ cool I was getting sorta down since I suck @ chemistry....^^
I've been reading a lot on dmt but I'm still afraid of actually making it.. I don't to blow up shit if u know what I mean... I anxious to hear the result of the trip...
 

JealousGreen

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I posted the same query on my own thread, but I'm curious as to how interested others would be in participating in a synchronized hyperspace event, aka SHE.

I'd happily participate in one centered around karmapuff's first time.
 

Karmapuff

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That sounds like a great idea, Still waiting on my mimosa... It says "In Transit"
Then the extraction should only take 3-4 days. If you guys don't mind waiting I would gladly join you :)

Do you guys have mics? We could use skype or msn to communicate.
 

cocobuds

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Supplies:
1 lb. MHRB
1 Gallon of water/vinegar- 3/1 ratio
Naptha
Lye (NaOH)
Wine jug (one gallon)
Crock Pot
Have a few mason jars around

1. Put the MHRB into the crockpot and add one half of the water/vinegar solution. (you will be using the other half later). Cook for 2 hours on high
2. Strain all the juices out of the plant matter. This can get messy, but you if you use gloves and ziploc bags creatively, its not too bad. Put the juice in a mason jar for the time being.
3. Put all the plant matter back into the crock pot with the rest of the water/vinegar solution. Again cook on high for 2 hours.
4. Strain out all the juice into the same mason jar as before.
... Youll want to squeeze the plant matter to get all the juice out. If you put it little by little into a ziploc bag, you can really squeeze out all the juice.
5. Let the juice in the jar settle overnight for the remaining plant material to sink to the bottom.
Part one is over

6. Put the juice into the one-gallon wine jug. It should fill it up about 3/4 of the way.
7. Mix 5 tablespoons of lye into a pint of warm water and pour into the wine jug with the juice. Tilt and swirl to mix. The shit will look dark and disgusting.
8. Pour in about 250 ml of Naptha into the jug and then fill it almost to the top with warm water. Tilt and swirl to mix. The naptha is now extracting the pure DMT
9. Let settle for a few hours. 2 distinct levels will appear. The bottom being brown and the top being the clear naptha.
10. Use a turkey baster to pull the naptha out and put it in a mason jar. Be careful not to pull any of the brown shit with it. Freeze the naptha jar and within a few days you should see crystals appear.

Save the gallon jug of brown shit, you can make more pulls using more naptha. You wont get all your DMT with one pull.
 

Karmapuff

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Marsofold :)

I heard it is a great TEK.
Questions though... Does the pulp still contain any DMT or does the crock pot and vinegar pull it all out?
Also I heard warming up the naptha helps pull more dmt from the lye solution, True?
 

floridasucks

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That sounds like a great idea, Still waiting on my mimosa... It says "In Transit"
Then the extraction should only take 3-4 days. If you guys don't mind waiting I would gladly join you :)

Do you guys have mics? We could use skype or msn to communicate.
ill join in. first times are the best. i got no mic tho.
 

cocobuds

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@karma
question 1: From my experiences, Ive learned this is far from an exact science. Im not sure if this tek does a pure and complete extraction of %100 of the DMT in the MHRB, but I know it works, so I go with it. Maybe you could split it up- cooking smaller amounts of the MHRB at higher or lower temps for longer. I just throw away the pulp after the second round, Im pretty sure its void of any DMT.

question 2: yes to the warming idea. Thats why you put the warm water in with the naptha. Ive found it pulls more out with the warm water instead of just pure naptha.

Just keep pulling until theres no crystals when you freeze the naptha.
 

Karmapuff

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Thank you, Question can you do a wash in just pure cold distilled water or does it have to be a solution.
Also using Ronsonol lighter fluid anyone heard of it?
 
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