DMT + MDMA = no go

if any of you read the trip report my buddy had last night.
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he smoked some dmt while on some molly.

i could go on forever about this.
but he basically described that
the mdma killed the dmt experience.
which in turn after the dmt experience was over. the dmt killed the mdma.

a few weeks ago I noticed/experienced the cross tolerance between dmt, lsd, mdma, and psilocybin.
and how substances should not be mixed unless its a VERY special occasion.
it takes 3-5 days to re gain lsd, dmt, and psilocybin tolerances.
but it takes 4-6 weeks to regain serotinin in the brain. and that probably isn't all the way
and if you mix mdma with any hallucinogen. expect to not to do any substance for at least a week or two.
because there WILL be diminished effects.

but maybe him smoking dmt under the influence was just a bad idea.
i feel like it was a bad idea. and I feel like everyone should be educated to treat dmt with respect and if you do....GREAT things will happen. if you dis respect it... you will be drawn away and you won't be enlightened.
dmt is the secret to life.

but maybe, just maybe.... him smoking dmt under the influence was just a bad idea.
maybe this was the reason my friend didnt breakthrough completely?
or maybe "they" thought him being on mdma (a synthetic chemical) was wrong and rejected him to breaking through?
or maybe he just needed one more toke to break through.?

if none of this makes any sense to you.
click the link above to read the trip report my friend recorded

I vote third toke. But probably mixing the two wouldn't be much help. It just sounds good.

thats exactly what i thought but
i myself have blasted off while on mdma and there is just something about it
that is just wrong.

it doesnt feel right.

its like the dmt or "they" have a problem with mdma.
which makes total sense if you think about it.
mdma is synthetic happiness.

ever heard of heaven?
ETERNAL, true happiness.

does dmt give us the chance to experience (for a few moments) true, eternal happiness aka (heaven)?

Feeling a state of complete relaxation and utter euphoria and than suddenly having all your muscles tense up while your brain is floored with even more intense serotonin activity in your brain and your ripped through a psychological worm hole... sounds like at early way to the feeling of a molly hangover . Though I guess instinctively those two chemicals would sound like a great mix as both are beyond physical comprehension when alone . +Rep for the info though, gonna give a go at an STB soon

I've heard of people having seizures from this combo. Be careful, heads.

HeatlessBBQ said:

.. and if you do....GREAT things will happen. if you dis respect it... you will be drawn away and you won't be enlightened..

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The Learnings taken from our mistakes are enlightening, No? It parallels with Pufferz quote in your sig too..

Thanks for sharing this interesting experiment.. I'm one who is still patiently waiting for my number to be called to visit, but when that time inevitably arrives, I now know what not to do

Thanks Heatless

Hmmm, See ive had friend's blast off while on MDMA, infact one of my friend's wont smoke DMT unless he's rolling...

Michael Phelps said:

Hmmm, See ive had friend's blast off while on MDMA, infact one of my friend's wont smoke DMT unless he's rolling...

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Interesting.. So is it safe to say:
a)A third toke may have been in order
b)Individuals' tolerance and susceptibilty to this combo varies
c)Forget it.. Seizures are unhealthy j/k

I'm finally getting closer.. I have all the necessary materials and chemicals for a STB extraction, just need to get the mimosa. I don't see myself ever dancing with Molly again, but I may someday smoke Dmt while on mushrooms. Chemically it makes sense that they wouldn't disagree with each other. Is that a fair assumption? Assuming of course that I can handle the combo...

JealousGreen said:

I'm finally getting closer.. I have all the necessary materials and chemicals for a STB extraction, just need to get the mimosa. I don't see myself ever dancing with Molly again, but I may someday smoke Dmt while on mushrooms. Chemically it makes sense that they wouldn't disagree with each other. Is that a fair assumption? Assuming of course that I can handle the combo...

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that is a very fair assumption cuz I would have thought the exact same thing

Michael Phelps said:

Hmmm, See ive had friend's blast off while on MDMA, infact one of my friend's wont smoke DMT unless he's rolling...

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I think I know you. haha

Denver has the best music scene

I smoked DMT on mushrooms about two weeks ago. it was wonderful.

JustAnotherStoner said:

I smoked DMT on mushrooms about two weeks ago. it was wonderful.

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i dont see mushrooms being a problem while combining with dmt.

they are both the most basic nature based hallucinogens.

and considering that they are both chemically structured almost exactly the same, the mix sounds perfectly fine to me.
pure bliss sounds like.
and the great thing about that mixture is once you get back from your dmt experience...
you'll still be tripping and you'll have time and more thought to be put into your experience.
=]

I've been thinking about this. Molly dumps serotonin. Dimitri, being a tryptamine, replaces serotonin. It would seem, to me, that they would be fighting each other for supremacy.

Michael Phelps said:

Hmmm, See ive had friend's blast off while on MDMA, infact one of my friend's wont smoke DMT unless he's rolling...

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Sounds like a comfort thing. I feel more comfortable drinking before dancing with Sally.