Diy hps light with remote ballast 4 $25.00

Enigma

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Apologies for bringing back a dead thread, but I figured this would be the best place to ask this question.

Would there be an easy way to adapt a PC case fan to this setup?

I'm not sure that it needs it, but I'd like to know if there was a way to do this.

Thanks,
E
 

blowsnow

Member
complete noob here but y do u need the ballast and other stuff for the hps and mh bulbs? can u put lets say 100 watt in a regular socket without the ballast and stuff?
 

dura72

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yes but regular bulbs dont always have the neccesary spectrum for growing. mh and hps bulbs need to be boosted to start up, thats what the ballast does, it also regulates the electricity flow( not sure exactly how though)
 

BigBudBalls

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Apologies for bringing back a dead thread, but I figured this would be the best place to ask this question.

Would there be an easy way to adapt a PC case fan to this setup?

I'm not sure that it needs it, but I'd like to know if there was a way to do this.

Thanks,
E
Best way would be to get a 120VAC fan of teh same size, then add in a 12VDC power supply
 

Pacific

Member
sorry if i sound stupid but m totally new to electrical..what i get so far is u need a transformer, some capacitor or something that ignites the light , bulb holder and bulb..is it all i mean for the electrical side apart from the tools involved...could a 400 watts ballast be made in this way with a 400 watts pc power supply to light up a 400 watts metal halide?
 

bohicular

Active Member
I'm trying to flower 2 sativa plants with heavy LST, and I'm thinking about 1 of 2 setups: either Four 105w 2700K CFL's or one 100w - 400w HPS. I'm trying to use as little energy as possible and disperse as little heat as possible. If I can get by with a 100w hps very well, (better than the 4 cfls), then I would like to try this Diy method. I think I understand what you're doing - - just mounting a transformer spaced off the walls in a computer power supply?

here is a cfl "cool-box" I made, which has mixed level of success

This is maybe a dumb question, but would 400watts of cfls use more energy than a 400w hps?

Also, the dispersed heat is another huge thing. It seems like cooltubes really help on an HPS, and I'd really like to know how many degrees people have added with their cooltubed hps systems.
 
How do you diy remote ballast a greenhouse digital unit? Would it be easy? It is very similar to this "BAL-Digital-Greenhouse-Grow-Light" if you googled it.
 

TommyHobby

Active Member
Materials
Power supply from old computer
Hps outdoor/security light
hps bulb

I used a 100 watt hps security light components that I got on eBay for $25 delivered.
LOL.... how the F is this a DIY for only $25 if the HPS Security light cost you $25 bucks in the first place ??? Doesn't make any sense to me............ BS all over this one.
 

Spanishfly

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I have always got good prices on QUALITY gear by purchasing my lighting needs from an online industrial lighting supplier. Cheaper than a ripoff grow shop.
The SAME lamps, etc come in plain wrappers, not festooned with ´SUPER DUPER MJ GRO-LIGHT´ labels at a fraction of the price.
 

ilikemybike

Active Member
Just glad to see I'm not the only one that put a DIY ballast together haha. Check out www.ballastkit.com, as that's where I ordered my 150 watt hps ballast from. The wiring was easy as pie. I really like the idea of using a computer power supply, but I might just gut it out and put my ballast pieces in there and use it's fan. I already have a power cord running to it. The pictures may look on the ghetto side, but I've already checked temps and everything, and it's safe. Oh and yes that's a DIY cool tube setup using a coleman lantern globe, works great :D.
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p.s. this ballast and light combo has gone through two full grows already,
just waiting on a new bulb for the next grow.
 

indoJR

Member
I just put together two of them from parts picked up from lowes. I already had the ballast kits and bulbs and it still cost me about 60 bucks for everything else.
 

djruiner

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seriously dude.... if you don't like the thread bailout man. This is good shit Smokie!!
good work on bringing back a dead thread from 2 years ago...but it is a BS to be honest...just the hps security light will alone run you about $60-$70...for that you could buy a already built plug in and go hps with ballast and bulb...after you add up all the other stuff you would need to get it going your going to be well over $100...not to mention if its not done correctly you got a major fire hazard on your hands
 

smokiedog

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good work on bringing back a dead thread from 2 years ago...but it is a BS to be honest...just the hps security light will alone run you about $60-$70...for that you could buy a already built plug in and go hps with ballast and bulb...after you add up all the other stuff you would need to get it going your going to be well over $100...not to mention if its not done correctly you got a major fire hazard on your hands
dead thread back to life..... really it only cost $25.... the USED 100 watt hps light was a self contained unit... old computer was FREE (who doesnt have a dead computer in a closet or basement- if not you can find one on craigslist for free) and ok, if you dont have electrical tape and a few wire nuts that might cost a couple bucks, so its a $28 DIY 100 watt hps w remote ballast. basically you gut a self contained, ballasted light and reconfigure it so that the bulb is away from the balast. but you cant just have your ballast just dangling around, so the ballast components are mounted in an old pc power supply box that has been gutted. not too complicated and not BS. a few years later and several bulbs later and its still going strong with no fires!!!
 

Systema

Active Member
So this is pretty basic, I took pics so I could show my buddy, not intending to do a diy thread. But it came out pretty good so here goes... feel free to ask questions if I missed anything.

This is a DIY 100 watt HPS light with remote ballast and hood.

This can be scaled up for any size HPS, but you will need to scavenge a different box if the transformer doesn’t fit.

Materials
Power supply from old computer
Hps outdoor/security light
hps bulb
Computer power cord
Lamp cord
Shop light hood
12 inches of #8 threaded bolt stock (or 4, 4 inch #8 bolts)
Washers, lock washers and nuts
Couple of chains to hang the light
Metal coat hanger
Drill, hack saw, adjustable wrench and a few screwdrivers


First gather the parts… for the HPS stuff you have a few options:

EBay
Craigslist
Electrical supply warehouses
Home depot/lowes or other hardware store

eBay always has a ton of hps stuff for sale cheap. But you have to keep looking to find good deals. If you can get the wattage you want for sale as an outdoor light or security light, just make sure it’s a “ballasted” hps light. You’re basically looking for an hps security light that you can gut and reconfigure to a remote ballast.
Sometimes I will search hps 100watt instead of hps 100 watt. The auction with no space between 100 and watt is a typo and doesn’t come up in many searches so it gets less bids and will sell for less, also I always wait to the last hour to bid.

Craigslist can be hit or miss, but there are hps lights or "security lights" on craigslist fairly often, as many people are "going green" and converting there HID outdoor lights to more economical fluorescents. I recently saw a posting on CL where a local contractor was selling about 50 hps lights at 30.00 a piece. They had just removed them from a commercial building due retrofitting with more efficient lights. They are out there, you just have to look. Gymnasium lights often are HPS lights as well.

Electrical supply warehouses, check the phone book or yahoo yellow pages. Most small to mid sized cities have a few. If you’re in a remote town in the middle of nowhere this may not be an option. If you can find one, just tell them you need a transformer, igniter, capacitor and mogul socket for whatever watt size light you want to build. They may or may not have a wiring diagram but they are easy to find on here or on the net. Sometimes there is a decal on the component itself with a wiring diagram. There are also "pulse start" in which there is no capacitor, just an igniter.

Home depot/lowes or other hardware store: I would use this option as a last resort, but I have seen them on sale for $40 or $50 bucks, sometimes less. Just check out the outdoor lighting isle and look for a deal.

Most of these come with the bulb, but I have seen them on amazon.com for as low as $7 (I know, there are those of you that will swear up and down that the hps bulbs off the shelf at home depot or lowes aren’t the same or as good as the $50- $120 grow bulbs, they may not be but they work just fine for me, nice thick dense budz)

Once you have the hps components you are ready to go…

I used a 100 watt hps security light components that I got on eBay for $25 delivered. I mounted the transformer and pulse start igniter in an old pc power supply box. (Please note that I used an empty box, I didn’t just plug the hps light into it). Gutting the pc power supply was easy; just leave the terminal in there so you can still use it to attach the power cord. I used this box because it has plenty of vents and holes to let the heat out. I then used the existing pc power cord to power it.
The transformer has 4 holes going through it, I cut the bolt stock into 4, 4 inch sections and mounted the transformer an inch of the bottom of the pc power supply box, this way it’s not touching any walls of the box and disperses the most heat. Use the washers, nuts and lock washers to secure it in there.

I used a 14 gauge lamp cord to make the mogul socket remote. You could just use a ballasted security light right out of the box by just adding a power cord. But the ballast gives off a lot of heat and it’s not as mobile for adjusting height as just a bulb with a light weight hood is.

If your relatively handy and know the basics about electricity this is pretty straight forward. This 100 watt light would be perfect for a 1 plant or a micro or lst grow. I added a hood that I made for free out an old shop light hood. Just trim the hood to the desired length and drill a few holes at either end. I bent a metal coat hanger to make hood hangers at either end.

I use this light as an extra light with my 400 HPS. I ended up with more females than I had planned and needed more light!

If you have any doubts about your ability to wire this, don’t do it or get help from a friend that knows (or ask for help on RUI) - faulty wiring can cause fires. The biggest thing is making sure it’s hooked up correct and there are no lose wires or bare/exposed wires. If it’s hooked up wrong it just won’t work, if it’s hooked up correct with bad connections that is where bad things happen, check all connections twice and then check again! Get the screw on wire nuts and use electrical tape to make sure no wires (no bare copper) are exposed anywhere. Also, never place anything on, above or near your ballast. It needs air to vent its heat. I keep my ballasts out of the grow area to keep heat down, that’s the whole point of making this a remote ballast.

Hope somebody can use this info, feel free to ask questions or post your own diy hps ideas or pics!
Petty nice diy !! Good go trought! Keep up the good work and have a good one budd!
 
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