DIY E-Nail

budbro18

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Yes the auber 1/32 din PID controller. Im not sure how the other ones act but i would assume similar.



http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=14


And if anyone knows a little more about batteries and run times youre more than welcome to start on a battery powered one.

Just use this controller: http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=83

Basically just the DC version of the one above. Ive been thinkin about it for a while and it would definitely work just not sure how hot vs how long haha. Just another thing to keep ya thinkin.
 

LiquidJunglist

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View attachment 3143917 Thanks I'll will look In to the pid is there a certain model that you prefer...and would this work better
There good also the everyone is different when it comes to what PID they prefer. All of the Auber PID are bomb.

The next step other then the DC enail would be a PID that can do more then one coil on single PID. For example... If you have two coils with TC's, 1 PID with 2 screens on the PID so you can put different temps on each coil. That would be amazing.
 
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SP_IV

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just sayin thanks for the info man.

ordered all the parts today so hopefully ill have it built in a couple weeks max.
ended up going with the OG highly educated e nail and a coil from d nail. plus a dropdown for it.

I should have done this months ago haha
 

budbro18

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Thanks guys! I figured i was goin into it so i might as well help educate everyone else.

If youre following the guide make sure you get the bigger box that i posted about.

As for nail i just got the picture of the custom TI ones i had made. Basically the highly educated OG enail but slightly different with interchangeable male/female 10/14/18mm down stems



Here they are without the 10/14/18mm plugs/caps
 

budbro18

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Yeah you just screw it onto the bottom threads. Its not so much an insert like the enail insert for the infiniti nails, but a whole nail. 14/18 male 14/18 female 10mm male 10mm female. Not 100% on the 10mms yet but def the 14/18s will be available.
 

buckfiddy

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There good also the everyone is different when it comes to what PID they prefer. All of the Auber PID are bomb.

The next step other then the DC enail would be a PID that can do more then one coil on single PID. For example... If you have two coils with TC's, 1 PID with 2 screens on the PID so you can put different temps on each coil. That would be amazing.
So the one I put up in the pic would work?? Being a ssr control output..cause I already have the square cut out for it and don't wont to get another box
 

biscuithead

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hey I kinda gave up for a little while but budbro im about to build a whole new setup with new everything the same as yours except a crydom 25a ssr could you please post another drawing but with the power inlet more specific and showing the brass pin because mine is flipped of yours and I blew a fuse in it which may have damaged something else when I set it up how you originally told me but when I replaced the inlet plug combo rocker nothing changed I think I had it right before but im guna start from scratch again. thanks man I was way to frustrated I just got everything new.
 

budbro18

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So the one I put up in the pic would work?? Being a ssr control output..cause I already have the square cut out for it and don't wont to get another box
Possibly. Im not sure if the built in SSR will be as reliable. The reason people use the 25a SSRs is because theyre made to handle a solid 15-22 amps with a heat sink. So when running about 2 amps on it there is virtually no heat and extends the life of it. But if youre using a lower amp one you are in on your own as far as me knowing/helping. Itll operate the same but might get too hot if left on for really long periods. Only know by testing!

But you can use a 1/16th din PID controller that will fit in the same size hole. Just need an SSR to add to it.
 

budbro18

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hey I kinda gave up for a little while but budbro im about to build a whole new setup with new everything the same as yours except a crydom 25a ssr could you please post another drawing but with the power inlet more specific and showing the brass pin because mine is flipped of yours and I blew a fuse in it which may have damaged something else when I set it up how you originally told me but when I replaced the inlet plug combo rocker nothing changed I think I had it right before but im guna start from scratch again. thanks man I was way to frustrated I just got everything new.
Im workin on the whole DIY video as we speak. Ill have very detailed videos/pictures/instructions. Might even start a new thread just to post everything so people dont have to dig through this one. Ill inform everyone though and post on both probably.
 
Probably 50 or 60 i have to get the final figures on price and discounts on bulk orders worked out. Theyll be as low as i can sell em and still make my 2 cents.
That's crazy I was about to buy a humboldt for 345 then buy an infiniti nail for 120 and your saving meee so much cash! Hopefully you can sell me a unit soon??
 

budbro18

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Hell yeah im workin as we speak on that as well. Hope to be able to help you out.

Nail and enail for less than 345!!
 

budbro18

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Im helpin everyone out!

Heres how i see it. Its $150 in parts, takes me 2-4 hours to assemble each, i sell for $250-$275 possibly $300 with the nail combo. Thats me making $100 for 2-4 hours of work. So $25-$50 an hour is a more than living wage for me. I have very few bills and am self employed in many fields so i have enough to get by.

And i fucking hate "luxury tax" if you will. Just because someone invests a couple bucks in supplies and labor doesnt mean they deserve to rape people. And fuck humboldt enail. I liked him at first but after seeing how he wines and cries about people "stealing his design" when Task made it originally really annoyed me. Then he went and stole someone elses coil design. I called him out and he blocked me. Good riddance.

Doing my own research for PID controllers Auber is like the 3rd thing that comes up on google. I found the exact PID he used with no help from him. So if i wouldnt have been following his IG i could have started a company and sold them and he could have called me out for "copying" his design.

So fuck him and anyone charging a ridiculous amount for their enail. I dont have a 5 year warranty but i will gladly replace any broken parts for cost of parts. So at max you would pay another $150 for a fully rebuilt enail if every part failed on you. At that price you basically are getting 2 enails for $400. And id be glad to replace any broken parts after that as well. It also could cost you nothing if the parts are still under warrant from auber (pid/ssr) Coils tend to be the main thing to go from what ive seen.

So even at that im making enough money to not feel like im assembling iphones and can sell my QUALITY product for a price WELL below the market average. Same QUALITY parts humboldt enail uses (not all the same parts just same quality)

Also S/O to @domelessdeamon if i spelled that correctly. HEs doing thangs for the people with an analog enail for $150 or $200. Either way hes tryin to help people like i am and i fully support his work at domeless.com
 
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