jondamon

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Mission.... whats wrong with topspin manifolds? Super cheap and they work
Simple answer was that I wanted to create a delivery ring.

this way I knew that I could adjust the amount of drippers etc

I didn’t even look toward manifolds tbh!
 

jondamon

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Mission.... whats wrong with topspin manifolds? Super cheap and they work
Also how would I go about stopping flow from let’s say 8 out of the 12 lines on the top spin when I only have 1 successful germination for example?

This way allows me the control I need, and I can create and change the delivery ring to suit with all the spare pipes I have etc.

This is the system as of yesterday.

1minute of fully open delivery gives runoff to the plant and evenly distributed nutrients over the top of the coco.

One delivery ring as I’ve only got 1 plant this time.

2x 4mm lines to the floraflex cap which is T’d to each side of the cap for delivery. 76C3AAA5-D904-4C76-927A-E4497299747E.jpegB603275F-807F-4E42-A7A4-ACD7ED39831D.pngB888A812-21B3-4500-B40C-FD9781B09622.png
 

oill

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Also how would I go about stopping flow from let’s say 8 out of the 12 lines on the top spin when I only have 1 successful germination for example?

This way allows me the control I need, and I can create and change the delivery ring to suit with all the spare pipes I have etc.

This is the system as of yesterday.

1minute of fully open delivery gives runoff to the plant and evenly distributed nutrients over the top of the coco.

One delivery ring as I’ve only got 1 plant this time.

2x 4mm lines to the floraflex cap which is T’d to each side of the cap for delivery. View attachment 4995694View attachment 4995695View attachment 4995696
Fair play.... its cool if you wanna build stuff. I like the flow control.

With a manifold if you want to reduce outlets you just pull a hose out and plug the other end of another hose into that outlet so it loops back into the manifold. Obviously this means you have to have even numbers. I use a 12 hose topspin for 3 plants...4 stakes each.
 

jondamon

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Fair play.... its cool if you wanna build stuff. I like the flow control.

With a manifold if you want to reduce outlets you just pull a hose out and plug the other end of another hose into that outlet so it loops back into the manifold. Obviously this means you have to have even numbers. I use a 12 hose topspin for 3 plants...4 stakes each.
Do the top spins flood or just drip?

One of the main reasons I’ve adapted to this was to flood for 1 min or so to achieve saturation with run off.
 

jondamon

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With this inside the tote too it’s got the ability to slow the back pressure release valve to allow more on the ring etc.
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delivery ring next run will most likely stay low on the drip trays with 4mm branches up to each plant etc

This single ring was simply because I have a single plant lol.

Today I will be upping to 2x daily feeds.
 

jondamon

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Just updating with another design for 2 plants to flood in coco DTW.

Bulkhead and screen fitted into drip tray the rest you can work out what’s been used to create.

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rkymtnman

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i'm using 2 old waterfarms (just the lower res) to try a coco grow right now.

top feeding DTW.

how important do you think it is to water from 1 point versus having like a ring or that green floraflex watering diffuser?
 

jondamon

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i'm using 2 old waterfarms (just the lower res) to try a coco grow right now.

top feeding DTW.

how important do you think it is to water from 1 point versus having like a ring or that green floraflex watering diffuser?
I’m NOT using the floraflex caps this time.

while great for distributing the solution they become very filthy very quickly and due to the stem size you’re unable to remove them to clean until the end of the cycle.

So I’m opting just for the T’s 2 per pot and going to flood for around 2mins to saturate the whole of the coco which should cover the entirety of the coco and then drain out when the flow stops.
 

rkymtnman

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So I’m opting just for the T’s 2 per pot and going to flood for around 2mins to saturate the whole of the coco which should cover the entirety of the coco and then drain out when the flow stops
thanks. that's kinda what i'm doing right now too. i'm gonna make like an H shape to get 4 points of watering and try that today.
 

jondamon

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i'm using 2 old waterfarms (just the lower res) to try a coco grow right now.

top feeding DTW.

how important do you think it is to water from 1 point versus having like a ring or that green floraflex watering diffuser?
As for the importance.

the first delivery ring I used had dripper schrubblers.

which dripped To 1 single point 2 points per pot.

It worked but I saw more benefit in using the floraflex cap for more even distribution.

After using the floraflex caps I’ve found their down side lol.

I’ll take a pic of the used floraflex cap later as I’ll be installing the above tonight and you’ll see just how filthy they end up after a full cycle.
 

jondamon

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i made a circle with about 4 tees ( 3 exits) but it had to almost perfectly level or it would just come out of 1 of them.
One ring of 4mm line.

1 Tee to connect the ends.

pierce holes in the 4mm line 4-8 holes depending on the size of the ring and then if you want you can use 4mm barbed connectors to maintain the hole to the correct flow if you want to.

These in the holes you create.
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The main thing to remember is if you’re creating a ring like the 13mm rectangle above the pressure will equalise across the whole delivery ring and mean that equal pressure is getting to each drip ring you’ve made.

If you don’t create the delivery loop (13mm rigid pipe pic above) it will dump out of the nearest release point on the line and won’t pressurise properly.
 

jondamon

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@rkymtnman

Like this

So you create the loop for delivery ring.

Then where my T is on this pic you attach your drip ring of 4mm with the punched holes.

Hope this makes sense.

so on my system I could put 4 drip rings and connect them to the T’s I’m using.

Because they spur off the main 13mm delivery line the pressure equalises across the 13mm delivery and then each ring would get equal pressure.

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rkymtnman

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No worries.

With that manifold, does it allow straight flow through it or does it just drip from each outlet?
you can adjust the knob on each site for flow rate. i just keep them full open. i usually run 4 plants , keep 1 closed and the 6th i keep open w/o tubing to act as an anti-siphon. then just adjust my timer to get enough runoff.
 

jondamon

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you can adjust the knob on each site for flow rate. i just keep them full open. i usually run 4 plants , keep 1 closed and the 6th i keep open w/o tubing to act as an anti-siphon. then just adjust my timer to get enough runoff.

with a ring like I’ve created for mine it requires full flow from the pump into the ring for equalising the pressure within the ring to deliver equally to each delivery T.

this is mine cleaned and setup back in the room ready for transplant tonight.

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