DillWeed's 2009 summer grow journal: Two Lbs. or Bust! (2x1000 watt HPS in grow tent)

DillWeed

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The plants have been on a 18/6 (8:00 am - 2:00 am) schedule for a few weeks now but tonight is the night! I am removing the two 400 watt MH lights and throwing in my second 1000 watt HPS and turning the lights off at 8:00 pm tonight. I will be back with pictures and a full update later tonight. So happy to start flowering now! :mrgreen:
 

DillWeed

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Have you thought about 24 hours of darkness entering the switch?
I've heard people talk about it, but I don't really think there is much of an advantage to it personally. I didn't do it on my last grow and I don't plan to this time either. I kind of let the plants naturally figure out it's time to make some pretty flowers. Now, I do leave them sit in darkness for about 24 hours before I harvest though. :joint:
 

bigjesse1922

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Well there is a hormone in mj that is destroyed by light. Giving it all that time to develop with no light allows for a quicker transfer into flower.
 

DillWeed

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Day 42:
July 13, 2009

It has been six weeks to the day since these plants were mere seeds and they are now full blown adults ready to be flowered. Today I removed my two 400 MH lights, added my second 1000 watt HPS light, spaced the plants out a bit, moved the intake duct to better accommodate the plants and set the timers to go off at 8:00 pm and come back on at 8:00 am in the morning. I will continue this 12/12 schedule for the next eight weeks (until day 98 of the grow) at which time I will set the timers to go off at 6:00 pm thus giving them a 10/14 schedule. That is also when I will begin the flush, which will last roughly two weeks and then will be harvest time (around day 112 or so) for me!

Pics 1-4: the last shots of the inside of the tent with the two 400 watt MH lights inside.

Pic 5: a picture of the happy adult plants spaced out giving them more breathing room.

Pic 6: a shot of the intake duct now taped to the side of the tent. It is aiming directly downward towards the oscilating fan so the cool air from the AC can be evenly distributed throught the tent.

Pic 7: just a quick shot of the two reflectors so you can compare the sizes. The one in the back is much bigger.

Pic 8: shot of the whole tent just before I zipped it up for the night.
 

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bigjesse1922

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They look absolutely gorgeous man! Way to go!

You are doin so well! How do you feel its goin at this point compared to this point of your last grow?
 

DillWeed

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They look absolutely gorgeous man! Way to go!

You are doin so well! How do you feel its goin at this point compared to this point of your last grow?
Thanks, bro! I am starting to get very, very optimistic about this grow. All things considered, I'd say that this grow looks about 25% better at this stage compared to the last one. I have the temperatures a lot more under control this time around which I believe has been extremely beneficial to their good health.

The main differences are of course the lights and the number of plants. Last time I had 13 plants and 220,000 lumens worth of HPS lighting. This time I have 20 plants and 300,000 lumens worth of HPS lighting.

I almost want to raise my goal for this grow to a kilo (1000 grams) instead of two pounds (896 grams) but I don't want to count my chickens just yet... :mrgreen:
 

bigjesse1922

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Well aim high!

An experienced grower should have a goal of 1 gram/watt, as I am sure you know.

That would be 2000 grams! Now, you would most likely have to do a sea of green to get that sort of yield, but I think you could eventually dial everything in and get .6 to .75 grams/watt!

I am excited for you man!

Hey, not to be self centered....But I have almost no traffic at my grow! :-(

Kinda disappointing! I have 5 clones of good genetics, 2 unknown bagseedlings, and 7 seedlings yet to sprout (germed, in soil, under lights) of the same genetics as my last grow!

I have them vegging under a 1000 watt, 7200k Solar Max bulb 18/6 and they are doin good! Plannin on vegging them out, takin clones, flowering the mothers, and creating 3 new mother based on the top three performers/quality of smoke! Well anyway, it would be great to have you along! I will have 14 plants under 1 k with the same soil, nutes, and basic grow conditions!

Well anyway, I hope you don't mind me postin this invite here!

Congrats again man. I think you are on your way to becoming a real mainstay around here, someone known for their skills, dialed in setup, great updating habits, and your genuinely kick-ass attitude!
 

mrfloaty

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I almost want to raise my goal for this grow to a kilo (1000 grams) instead of two pounds (896 grams) but I don't want to count my chickens just yet... :mrgreen:[/QUOTE]

++ rep i recon you will get a kg, with the kind of set up you have and how well your doing i would be optimistic about getting a kg, if every plant has 2oz then your well over the kg i have faityh in ya.
QUESTION: have you used the change to 10/14 light regime befor and did you notice a diference in the bud density and stickyness of resin any advice?

keep up the good work.....:peace:
 

DillWeed

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I almost want to raise my goal for this grow to a kilo (1000 grams) instead of two pounds (896 grams) but I don't want to count my chickens just yet... :mrgreen:
++ rep i recon you will get a kg, with the kind of set up you have and how well your doing i would be optimistic about getting a kg, if every plant has 2oz then your well over the kg i have faityh in ya.
QUESTION: have you used the change to 10/14 light regime befor and did you notice a diference in the bud density and stickyness of resin any advice?

keep up the good work.....:peace:[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the kind words! I am really starting to feel the positive karma from all of you and hopefully the plants do too!

And yes, I used 10/14 for the last two weeks in my last grow and I did notice significant resin development during this time. :joint:
 

phreakygoat

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damn dude, excellent greenery. I would also like to support the 24hr. dark period flower transition, based on tons of other growers advice (in the real world, not RIU).
 

poundpusher2009

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Keep up the good work dill. The plants are looking really healthy. Im sure wth the added 1000 watter it will grow like a dillweed. LOL. Just wondering how much on average you invested to get your grow underway. This includes nutes and all.
 

DillWeed

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Just wondering how much on average you invested to get your grow underway. This includes nutes and all.
If you include the grow tent, all of my lighting, my intake and exhaust fans, carbon filter, ducting and tools, the cost of the genetics, all of the little things like medium, ph stuff, water filters, nutes and the additional cost of the electric bill it would add to about $2500 USD.

The only things that will cost you money every grow after that would be genetics (unless you use clones), medium, nutes and electricity. Then it would only cost between $700-$800 to pull off a grow with my setup.

Of course you will want to change bulbs and your carbon filter every 3-4 grows as well. :joint:
 

mrfloaty

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dillweed, question i have just read about using liqide oxigen during germination and veg you can increase strength and size of branches which will uptake more food wich aid in bigger bud production, have you used it in this way befor as it can also be used as a grow room cleaner, and in hydro set ups, any infomation would be grealy apreciated.

plants looking amazing dude keep up great work......
 

Mozesismyname

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dillweed, question i have just read about using liqide oxigen during germination and veg you can increase strength and size of branches which will uptake more food wich aid in bigger bud production, have you used it in this way befor as it can also be used as a grow room cleaner, and in hydro set ups, any infomation would be grealy apreciated.

plants looking amazing dude keep up great work......
Oxygen boils at [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]-297.3°F (-183.0°C). It would either disappear quickly, shock the roots, or both. Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is the way to go to get some extra (safe) 02 to the roots. But I haven't tried liquid 02 so I don't know for sure.

Dill, rad setup. Jaw-dropping for certain!
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mrfloaty

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[QUOTE[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]. Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is the way to go to get some extra (safe) 02 to the roots. But I haven't tried liquid 02 so I don't know for sure.
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easy Mozesismyname,

your right the name of it is called liquide oxigen but its [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Hydrogen peroxide that what i ment sorrythe stoner in me :?
so how would you best use it and when in the plant cycle is best or is it all the way through, i hear it can create bigger stonger branches hence more bud...... or am i being miss informed or read the wrong shit.........:joint:
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bigjesse1922

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Hydrogen peroxide is for use in hydroponic grows...

You should NEVER use it in soil, as it kills the helpful bacteria and other microbes that are responsible for breaking down food (NPK, etc), into a form that the plant can uptake.

You will actually starve your plant and kill it with sustained use.
 

Highhunter

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Thanks, bro! I am starting to get very, very optimistic about this grow. All things considered, I'd say that this grow looks about 25% better at this stage compared to the last one. I have the temperatures a lot more under control this time around which I believe has been extremely beneficial to their good health.

The main differences are of course the lights and the number of plants. Last time I had 13 plants and 220,000 lumens worth of HPS lighting. This time I have 20 plants and 300,000 lumens worth of HPS lighting.

I almost want to raise my goal for this grow to a kilo (1000 grams) instead of two pounds (896 grams) but I don't want to count my chickens just yet... :mrgreen:
Looks Awesome Brahman. Write down how much you want to weigh-in on paper and it will likely come true. Im tellin ya, just write it down ;)
 
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