DillWeed's 2009 fall grow journal: BLUEBERRY, VIOLATOR KUSH, SENSI STAR and more...

theloadeddragon

Well-Known Member
If you really cared about the well-being of your children, you wouldn't jeopardize your freedom and, thus, jeopardize the quality of your kids' lives by partaking in illegal activities. I agree with the opinion that StickyMango shouldn't have came back to RIU, but I think that your actions threaten your children's lives way more than StickyMango. Let me be clear; I'm not defending StickyMango in any way. I just think that your post was very oxymoronic. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with the U.S. marijuana policies AT ALL, and I love growing marijuana, but I don't have kids to worry about if I go to jail. There are many ways to provide for your family that don't involve breaking the law.
Maybe you should look into who you are talking about and know what you are talking about before you make incendiary inflammatory comments....... Especially when you are wrong.....

I don't do illegal things

I don't grow for profit, nor am I compensated in any form for medication I provide to patients

What I do and how I do it is both legal in the state legislature and the Federal legislature as well.......

You sir, have lost my respect
 

aa614

Member
Maybe you should look into who you are talking about and know what you are talking about before you make incendiary inflammatory comments....... Especially when you are wrong.....

I don't do illegal things

I don't grow for profit, nor am I compensated in any form for medication I provide to patients

What I do and how I do it is both legal in the state legislature and the Federal legislature as well.......

You sir, have lost my respect
So, then, how does StickyMango have anything to do with you? You have nothing to worry about. And even if you lost respect for me, you have to respect the truth. The truth is that if what you're saying is true, then StickyMango cannot affect you.
 

growin4it

Active Member
loaded dragon u went way overboard, calm down.. no need to go off about ur kids well being, no one has or will threaten them on a MARIJUANA FORUM.. and i doubt ANYONE cares that they lost your respect over the internet... go to a different forum if u want to talk about being dad of the year, but get the hell out of here with that shit..no one is interested.. now if everyone wouldn't mind, back to dill's superb grow...? pics?
 

StickyMango

Member
First off, Jesse! Good to see you again man...


Now onto the fun subject, and im sorry in advance dill.

BUT, first off TLD, You specifically never pmed me NOR openly told me on your journal not post because you didnt not agree with me keeping my name. So shame on you sir, you should have come to me if you had a problem. And you know, it almost seems like a childish move to make sly ass comments about me on someone else's journal. I will gladely unscribe from your thread man, never meant any harm by posting on your journal.

So, then, how does StickyMango have anything to do with you? You have nothing to worry about. And even if you lost respect for me, you have to respect the truth. The truth is that if what you're saying is true, then StickyMango cannot affect you.
I agree. I believe me coming back under my old alias is just fine. I am doing NOTHING illegal, nor talking about doing anything illegal, because I dont. If you are doing something illegal, learn from my mistake. Dont put yourself on a public website. Yes someone may have "told" on me. But RIU was just help for the police to get a warrent.

So the moral of the story, I still hav respect for you TLD because you still grow kick ass bud, and you are just trying to look out for yourself, but maybe you could have handled this situation better and you wouldent have had that conversation with that guy ;)

Dill, Sorry for the rant, just had to defend myself a little, not fair for people to flame me when im not here...

:) keep up those monsters dill ;) +Rep

(And let me know if you would like me to stop posting here as well, ill unscribe gladly)
 

poplars

Well-Known Member
First off, Jesse! Good to see you again man...


Now onto the fun subject, and im sorry in advance dill.

BUT, first off TLD, You specifically never pmed me NOR openly told me on your journal not post because you didnt not agree with me keeping my name. So shame on you sir, you should have come to me if you had a problem. And you know, it almost seems like a childish move to make sly ass comments about me on someone else's journal. I will gladely unscribe from your thread man, never meant any harm by posting on your journal.



I agree. I believe me coming back under my old alias is just fine. I am doing NOTHING illegal, nor talking about doing anything illegal, because I dont. If you are doing something illegal, learn from my mistake. Dont put yourself on a public website. Yes someone may have "told" on me. But RIU was just help for the police to get a warrent.

So the moral of the story, I still hav respect for you TLD because you still grow kick ass bud, and you are just trying to look out for yourself, but maybe you could have handled this situation better and you wouldent have had that conversation with that guy ;)

Dill, Sorry for the rant, just had to defend myself a little, not fair for people to flame me when im not here...

:) keep up those monsters dill ;) +Rep

(And let me know if you would like me to stop posting here as well, ill unscribe gladly)
freedom of speech. none of you have the right to say anything about whether or not mango should have changed his name, or not even came back. I don't see anything wrong with him coming back with the same name?

is using the name stickymango illegal just because he got busted with it? no way.

edit: and technically loaded, you having a journal and being medical has a legal loophole in itself. you could literally be prosecuited for educating people in an illegal activity (its illegal for everyone who doesn't have a script, or live in a state and have a script etc.)

so essentially by posting ANYTHING related to growing whatsoever while you're medical is ILLEGAL. so I say it's pretty retarded for you to even bitch about mango posting in your thread, when what you're doing yourself is potentially illegal.
 

theloadeddragon

Well-Known Member
I really wish he didn't come back...... especially under same alias....... kind of pisses me off when I get those posts in my journal.......

Why/How yah think he got busted? Not using the noggin....

Its nothing personal.......

But damn........

I got kids.......

You know what that means?

your always a split second from the wrong move or wrong decision that will ruin LIVES, and not just your own......

I would Kill for my kids without even thinking about it....... I provide for my kids, they rely on ME....... so...... you fuck with me, your fucking with me kids..... even if your not trying to fuck with me..... get it?
Where did I say Sticky Mango jeopardized anything? I said I wished he hadn't come back under the same alias, that I wished he didn't return at all (implying that if he did, I wouldn't want to know it was him)... had he returned under a different alias, and didn't tell anyone, than I wouldn't even know he returned ;) ...... no one would...... then when he would post in my journal it would be welcomed and wouldn't upset me in the least...... but I know enough about law enforcement and legal processes to know that returning under that alias IS not the smartest thing to do, especially if its on the same computer....... or even the same IP address.....
The fact that his internet account was reported in the media shows that law enforcement knows a hell of a lot more about it then just that he had one.... The fact that SM reported here that his computer and other equipment was seized shows us that they had direct access to his computer and other equipment while he couldn't see anything they were doing with it, The fact that he was using his computer at home to access the account over his home internet connection (thereby giving reason for future internet activity surveillance)....... and they Investigate things..... They monitor things..... so rather than jeopardizing me.... it would be more like jeopardizing issues regarding the site, or other users..... Because SM is small fish, and there ARE big fish on here (I am not referring to myself)..... All it takes is certain warrants for certain reasons to crumble a site like this....... and its targeted participants..... can you say Overgrow?

"your always a split second from the wrong move or wrong decision that will ruin LIVES, and not just your own......" Did I say specifically "you" is anyone in particular? Or could it be all inclusive to mean myself as well?
If you read the statement in the proper literary sense, it actually infers that I AM the "You" being referred to.
What it MEANS is simply this......

I have kids, and like anyone else with kids, I am always one wrong move or step away from ruining lives.. duh, simple and true.... And if it were my own selfish activities that were to be making a wrong move, then obviously I am implying that I would give up the activities for my children.

So, then, how does StickyMango have anything to do with you? You have nothing to worry about. And even if you lost respect for me, you have to respect the truth. The truth is that if what you're saying is true, then StickyMango cannot affect you.
He posted in my journals...... having something to do with me :p

How I choose to go about interacting with him is the determining factor in whether or not anything would affect or effect me, or my children as a result of MY decisions.....

I respect the truth just fine.... and the Truth is simply that I don't have anything to worry about :)..... and that you spoke out of turn about things you know nothing about, after misinterpreting a simple statement. Learn to Understand what you read!

loaded dragon u went way overboard, calm down.. no need to go off about ur kids well being, no one has or will threaten them on a MARIJUANA FORUM.. and i doubt ANYONE cares that they lost your respect over the internet... go to a different forum if u want to talk about being dad of the year, but get the hell out of here with that shit..no one is interested.. now if everyone wouldn't mind, back to dill's superb grow...? pics?
And HOW precisely did I go overboard? And about What did I go overboard on?

Dill has said he was going to post pics here and there a few times in the last week and a half and they never came, however the subject of SM was brought up repeatedly, and was/is a topic of concern for him (Dill).... as he wrote himself just a week or so ago in this thread..... SO Make me leave :p

First off, Jesse! Good to see you again man...


Now onto the fun subject, and im sorry in advance dill.

BUT, first off TLD, You specifically never pmed me NOR openly told me on your journal not post because you didnt not agree with me keeping my name. So shame on you sir, you should have come to me if you had a problem. And you know, it almost seems like a childish move to make sly ass comments about me on someone else's journal. I will gladely unscribe from your thread man, never meant any harm by posting on your journal.



I agree. I believe me coming back under my old alias is just fine. I am doing NOTHING illegal, nor talking about doing anything illegal, because I dont. If you are doing something illegal, learn from my mistake. Dont put yourself on a public website. Yes someone may have "told" on me. But RIU was just help for the police to get a warrent.

So the moral of the story, I still hav respect for you TLD because you still grow kick ass bud, and you are just trying to look out for yourself, but maybe you could have handled this situation better and you wouldent have had that conversation with that guy ;)

Dill, Sorry for the rant, just had to defend myself a little, not fair for people to flame me when im not here...

:) keep up those monsters dill ;) +Rep

(And let me know if you would like me to stop posting here as well, ill unscribe gladly)
I respect you as well.... for my own variety of reasons..... And thank you for the compliment...... but really I am not just looking out for myself, as I Really have nothing to worry about in that regards (with acceptation to losing RIU, or my account anyways), but RIU does, and some of its users, that is for sure.....

Did I reply to you directly in my thread or at all? Ever heard of the phrase "Guilty by association"? It has quite a bit of legal precedent behind it...... and is certainly applicapable to the situation...... regarding law enforcement investigative tactics.......

I didn't flame you.......

I pointed out the truth and facts.... simple....

"it almost seems like a childish move..." Almost, but doesn't seem that way, because I did it in a place I knew you would see it, where you have been posting and viewing frequently, so there was nothing sly about it. I also knew the issue would be engrandized by other people, thereby indirectly directing the statement towards yourself.

Some action of someones got you busted, and unless that was YOUR intent, then you must not have been using your head to prevent it, otherwise it wouldn't have happened. Simple..... not a flame..... just truth.... sorry it happened... it really sucks that it did..... but it did, and thats the truth....

Plain and simple StickyMango:
I think you are a cool, nice guy. I think if you had simply returned under a different alias, it would have made things a lot easier for everyone. I think once you are away from your own current disposition you have the potential to grow some real dank, and have a long enjoyable time here. But I think considering recent events, it would be wise to air on the side of caution ;).

On a side note......

How does anyone know its the same Sticky Mango using the account? How do we know its not law enforcement? How would RIU know? And what would the implications be if it were?
 

poplars

Well-Known Member
Where did I say Sticky Mango jeopardized anything? I said I wished he hadn't come back under the same alias, that I wished he didn't return at all (implying that if he did, I wouldn't want to know it was him)... had he returned under a different alias, and didn't tell anyone, than I wouldn't even know he returned ;) ...... no one would...... then when he would post in my journal it would be welcomed and wouldn't upset me in the least...... but I know enough about law enforcement and legal processes to know that returning under that alias IS not the smartest thing to do, especially if its on the same computer....... or even the same IP address.....
The fact that his internet account was reported in the media shows that law enforcement knows a hell of a lot more about it then just that he had one.... The fact that SM reported here that his computer and other equipment was seized shows us that they had direct access to his computer and other equipment while he couldn't see anything they were doing with it, The fact that he was using his computer at home to access the account over his home internet connection (thereby giving reason for future internet activity surveillance)....... and they Investigate things..... They monitor things..... so rather than jeopardizing me.... it would be more like jeopardizing issues regarding the site, or other users..... Because SM is small fish, and there ARE big fish on here (I am not referring to myself)..... All it takes is certain warrants for certain reasons to crumble a site like this....... and its targeted participants..... can you say Overgrow?

"your always a split second from the wrong move or wrong decision that will ruin LIVES, and not just your own......" Did I say specifically "you" is anyone in particular? Or could it be all inclusive to mean myself as well?
If you read the statement in the proper literary sense, it actually infers that I AM the "You" being referred to.
What it MEANS is simply this......

I have kids, and like anyone else with kids, I am always one wrong move or step away from ruining lives.. duh, simple and true.... And if it were my own selfish activities that were to be making a wrong move, then obviously I am implying that I would give up the activities for my children.



He posted in my journals...... having something to do with me :p

How I choose to go about interacting with him is the determining factor in whether or not anything would affect or effect me, or my children as a result of MY decisions.....

I respect the truth just fine.... and the Truth is simply that I don't have anything to worry about :)..... and that you spoke out of turn about things you know nothing about, after misinterpreting a simple statement. Learn to Understand what you read!



And HOW precisely did I go overboard? And about What did I go overboard on?

Dill has said he was going to post pics here and there a few times in the last week and a half and they never came, however the subject of SM was brought up repeatedly, and was/is a topic of concern for him (Dill).... as he wrote himself just a week or so ago in this thread..... SO Make me leave :p



I respect you as well.... for my own variety of reasons..... And thank you for the compliment...... but really I am not just looking out for myself, as I Really have nothing to worry about in that regards (with acceptation to losing RIU, or my account anyways), but RIU does, and some of its users, that is for sure.....

Did I reply to you directly in my thread or at all? Ever heard of the phrase "Guilty by association"? It has quite a bit of legal precedent behind it...... and is certainly applicapable to the situation...... regarding law enforcement investigative tactics.......

I didn't flame you.......

I pointed out the truth and facts.... simple....

"it almost seems like a childish move..." Almost, but doesn't seem that way, because I did it in a place I knew you would see it, where you have been posting and viewing frequently, so there was nothing sly about it. I also knew the issue would be engrandized by other people, thereby indirectly directing the statement towards yourself.

Some action of someones got you busted, and unless that was YOUR intent, then you must not have been using your head to prevent it, otherwise it wouldn't have happened. Simple..... not a flame..... just truth.... sorry it happened... it really sucks that it did..... but it did, and thats the truth....

Plain and simple StickyMango:
I think you are a cool, nice guy. I think if you had simply returned under a different alias, it would have made things a lot easier for everyone. I think once you are away from your own current disposition you have the potential to grow some real dank, and have a long enjoyable time here. But I think considering recent events, it would be wise to air on the side of caution ;).

On a side note......

How does anyone know its the same Sticky Mango using the account? How do we know its not law enforcement? How would RIU know? And what would the implications be if it were?
I could personally vouche for him being the real stickymango . . if that counts for anything.

but regardless. you still put yourself in a position of potential loss by making a grow journal in general.
 

theloadeddragon

Well-Known Member
freedom of speech. none of you have the right to say anything about whether or not mango should have changed his name, or not even came back. I don't see anything wrong with him coming back with the same name?

is using the name stickymango illegal just because he got busted with it? no way.

edit: and technically loaded, you having a journal and being medical has a legal loophole in itself. you could literally be prosecuited for educating people in an illegal activity (its illegal for everyone who doesn't have a script, or live in a state and have a script etc.)

so essentially by posting ANYTHING related to growing whatsoever while you're medical is ILLEGAL. so I say it's pretty retarded for you to even bitch about mango posting in your thread, when what you're doing yourself is potentially illegal.
Nope.... Wrong... hit the books buddy.... do some research, and grab a dictionary (a legal dictionary would help as well).....

What a bold self contradiction:

"freedom of speech. none of you have the right to say anything about whether or not mango should have changed his name..."

MARIJUANA IS NOT FEDERALLY ILLEGAL FOR THOSE THAT CHOOSE FOR IT NOT TO BE, AND THOSE THAT EXECUTE THAT CHOICE APPROPRIATELY.

.... "you could literally be prosecuited for educating people in an illegal activity (its illegal for everyone who doesn't have a script, or live in a state and have a script etc.)".....

That's just like saying its illegal Federally for a doctor to Recommend pot....... or describe a robbery that took place, or a murder you saw happen etc. etc. or in any way describe whatsoever anything that can be construed as against the law...... dude, go read a book..... read lots of books, Educate yourself.....

... "so essentially by posting ANYTHING related to growing whatsoever while you're medical is ILLEGAL. so I say it's pretty retarded for you to even bitch about mango posting in your thread, when what you're doing yourself is potentially illegal."

I think you need to re register here at RIU and ACTUALLY read what the site has written regarding these matters...... as it completely disproves your statements.....

Because if ANYTHING you just wrote was true..... this site wouldn't be here at all... duh.....
 

StickyMango

Member
I respect you as well.... for my own variety of reasons..... And thank you for the compliment...... but really I am not just looking out for myself, as I Really have nothing to worry about in that regards (with acceptation to losing RIU, or my account anyways), but RIU does, and some of its users, that is for sure.....

Did I reply to you directly in my thread or at all? Ever heard of the phrase "Guilty by association"? It has quite a bit of legal precedent behind it...... and is certainly applicapable to the situation...... regarding law enforcement investigative tactics.......

I didn't flame you.......

I pointed out the truth and facts.... simple....

"it almost seems like a childish move..." Almost, but doesn't seem that way, because I did it in a place I knew you would see it, where you have been posting and viewing frequently, so there was nothing sly about it. I also knew the issue would be engrandized by other people, thereby indirectly directing the statement towards yourself.

Some action of someones got you busted, and unless that was YOUR intent, then you must not have been using your head to prevent it, otherwise it wouldn't have happened. Simple..... not a flame..... just truth.... sorry it happened... it really sucks that it did..... but it did, and thats the truth....

Plain and simple StickyMango:
I think you are a cool, nice guy. I think if you had simply returned under a different alias, it would have made things a lot easier for everyone. I think once you are away from your own current disposition you have the potential to grow some real dank, and have a long enjoyable time here. But I think considering recent events, it would be wise to air on the side of caution ;).

On a side note......

How does anyone know its the same Sticky Mango using the account? How do we know its not law enforcement? How would RIU know? And what would the implications be if it were?
By you not coming to me about your concern, and posting it on a public forum, despite me frequenting it or now, is childish IMO.

Not saying you as a person are, just this whole conversation. My laptop was taken, along with other things, and since you say you know a little thing about law enforcement, you know they must disclose all evidence against me. And On account I have already been to court, and settled this case, dont you think I read all my reports and made sure none of my stuff was messed with? I hired a lawyer, who helped me win this case and helped me make sure none of my rights were violated, along with my property. Im doing nothing illegal, nor will I. I am moving in 10-11 months to northern california, and until that day, I shall have nothing to do with cultivating marijuana. In the meantime, there is nothing illegal, or wrong about me returning to a public forum, under a previous alias.

So basically, what im saying is.

If you got busted, you wouldent go and change your real life name now would you? I will NOT be changing my name...and come the time I get my medical card, and legally allowed to grow my medicine again, I will continue my grow journals, and your all welcome to read them ;)


And TLD, to the thought that im ANYONE besides the real StickyMango, I laugh at that.

If YOU need proof man, your more than welcome to PM me.
 

poplars

Well-Known Member
Nope.... Wrong... hit the books buddy.... do some research, and grab a dictionary (a legal dictionary would help as well).....

What a bold self contradiction:

"freedom of speech. none of you have the right to say anything about whether or not mango should have changed his name..."

MARIJUANA IS NOT FEDERALLY ILLEGAL FOR THOSE THAT CHOOSE FOR IT NOT TO BE, AND THOSE THAT EXECUTE THAT CHOICE APPROPRIATELY.

.... "you could literally be prosecuited for educating people in an illegal activity (its illegal for everyone who doesn't have a script, or live in a state and have a script etc.)".....

That's just like saying its illegal Federally for a doctor to Recommend pot....... or describe a robbery that took place, or a murder you saw happen etc. etc. or in any way describe whatsoever anything that can be construed as against the law...... dude, go read a book..... read lots of books, Educate yourself.....

... "so essentially by posting ANYTHING related to growing whatsoever while you're medical is ILLEGAL. so I say it's pretty retarded for you to even bitch about mango posting in your thread, when what you're doing yourself is potentially illegal."

I think you need to re register here at RIU and ACTUALLY read what the site has written regarding these matters...... as it completely disproves your statements.....

Because if ANYTHING you just wrote was true..... this site wouldn't be here at all... duh.....
so I'm not arrogant in a fashion to say I couldn't possibly be wrong, how about you specifically STATE how I'm wrong? instead of giving me vague directions on how to figure out how you're right?
 

theloadeddragon

Well-Known Member
By you not coming to me about your concern, and posting it on a public forum, despite me frequenting it or now, is childish IMO.

Not saying you as a person are, just this whole conversation. My laptop was taken, along with other things, and since you say you know a little thing about law enforcement, you know they must disclose all evidence against me. And On account I have already been to court, and settled this case, dont you think I read all my reports and made sure none of my stuff was messed with? I hired a lawyer, who helped me win this case and helped me make sure none of my rights were violated, along with my property. Im doing nothing illegal, nor will I. I am moving in 10-11 months to northern california, and until that day, I shall have nothing to do with cultivating marijuana. In the meantime, there is nothing illegal, or wrong about me returning to a public forum, under a previous alias.

So basically, what im saying is.

If you got busted, you wouldent go and change your real life name now would you? I will NOT be changing my name...and come the time I get my medical card, and legally allowed to grow my medicine again, I will continue my grow journals, and your all welcome to read them ;)


And TLD, to the thought that im ANYONE besides the real StickyMango, I laugh at that.

If YOU need proof man, your more than welcome to PM me.
I didn't know Sticky Mango was your Real name.... lol

I agree that this whole conversation should be unecessary...

"My laptop was taken, along with other things, and since you say you know a little thing about law enforcement, you know they must disclose all evidence against me. And On account I have already been to court, and settled this case, dont you think I read all my reports and made sure none of my stuff was messed with? I hired a lawyer, who helped me win this case and helped me make sure none of my rights were violated, along with my property...."

your right.... accept that they don't have to show you any evidence they are gathering on other people or organizations, they don't have to notify you that you are being used to do so either.... Why the hell would they target a small fish as their end goal? Wouldn't be a hell of a lot more convenient to just allow the small fish to lead the bigger fish to you?
 

StickyMango

Member
I didn't know Sticky Mango was your Real name.... lol

I agree that this whole conversation should be unecessary...

"My laptop was taken, along with other things, and since you say you know a little thing about law enforcement, you know they must disclose all evidence against me. And On account I have already been to court, and settled this case, dont you think I read all my reports and made sure none of my stuff was messed with? I hired a lawyer, who helped me win this case and helped me make sure none of my rights were violated, along with my property...."

your right.... accept that they don't have to show you any evidence they are gathering on other people or organizations, they don't have to notify you that you are being used to do so either.... Why the hell would they target a small fish as their end goal? Wouldn't be a hell of a lot more convenient to just allow the small fish to lead the bigger fish to you?
You think my local SO is after people in some random state that i may have conversed with once?

even if so, im sorry if I offend you by staying man, but I must agree with poplars, Im not changing my name because I got busted.

If what you say is true, then they would be watching you, no matter what my Alias is. Right?

Lets end this convo man, we are better than this...I think someone with 42 posts started this BS
 

theloadeddragon

Well-Known Member
Temple 420 is how you are wrong

Rastafarianism is how you are wrong

The United States Constitution is how you are wrong....

States rights is how you are wrong (having nothing what so ever to do with MMJ)

Due Process is how you are wrong

Court rulings, setting legal precedent, is how you are wrong

I have already done the research, I have already compiled the facts, the reality, and realized as well as experienced the truth.....

Why should I spend so much time and effort to educate you? When you have everything you need to educate yourself, but have chosen thus far not to?


Go read the constitution (the whole thing, as quite a few different parts play crucial roles in the actuality of the legality of Cannabis)

Then go to college to understand it

and explain to me precisely HOW marijuana is federally illegal.....

Then Explain How easy it is for big government to abuse its power and get away with persuading the nation to believe its federally illegal to posses.
 

theloadeddragon

Well-Known Member
You think my local SO is after people in some random state that i may have conversed with once?

even if so, im sorry if I offend you by staying man, but I must agree with poplars, Im not changing my name because I got busted.

If what you say is true, then they would be watching you, no matter what my Alias is. Right?

Lets end this convo man, we are better than this...I think someone with 42 posts started this BS
Your local SO (Sherrifs office) woks with other agencies...... And I am sure you know that law enforcement reads through these forums all day long..... The DEA has an RIU task force working with the FCC

I think they would know better than to try to target me. As it is plainly evident that I am completely confident and secure in enacting a proper defense against the Feds (as I have had to do it before), as well as the fact that compared to quite a few growers on the site, I am small fish :D.

Nope Im not being watched :D...... I hang out with the CHP across the street all the time, and other local law enforcement as well as Federal officers...... They have a question, they can just ask, they want a tour, they can make an appointment.....

round here they seize bout 3-400,000 plants a year in whole plantations of 10,000 plus plants (mostly crappy pot).... they have strait up told me they couldn't care less about what I am doing.... unless I drove round without a license or something..... lol...... you know, doing something that is Actually against the law....
 

poplars

Well-Known Member
Temple 420 is how you are wrong

Rastafarianism is how you are wrong

The United States Constitution is how you are wrong....

States rights is how you are wrong (having nothing what so ever to do with MMJ)

Due Process is how you are wrong

Court rulings, setting legal precedent, is how you are wrong

I have already done the research, I have already compiled the facts, the reality, and realized as well as experienced the truth.....

Why should I spend so much time and effort to educate you? When you have everything you need to educate yourself, but have chosen thus far not to?


Go read the constitution (the whole thing, as quite a few different parts play crucial roles in the actuality of the legality of Cannabis)

Then go to college to understand it

and explain to me precisely HOW marijuana is federally illegal.....

Then Explain How easy it is for big government to abuse its power and get away with persuading the nation to believe its federally illegal to posses.
*yawn* thanks for the metaphoric blabber again.

and also thanks for the very ignorant assumptions of my lack of education. gotta love that arrogance.

all your explanations are based on bashing my asking them. how constructive is that?
 

theloadeddragon

Well-Known Member
so I'm not arrogant in a fashion to say I couldn't possibly be wrong, how about you specifically STATE how I'm wrong? instead of giving me vague directions on how to figure out how you're right?
I did only as you asked and stated HOW you are wrong.

It has nothing to do with me being right (because I don't care if I am right or wrong, all I care about is the truth and it being known, I have been wrong plenty of times in the past, and upon the discovery of being wrong, I admit it and have done so in plenty of places on this site even, this isn't about me in the least, but all of us, none of this is personal,), and a hell of a lot more to do with the FACT that the information is right, and getting people motivated to do their own research and make up their own damn minds......

Obviously, if you didn't already know, you hadn't already been educated.
 
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