VTXDave
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I thank you my friend.
There are many powers in the world, for good or for evil. Some are greater than I am. Against some I have not yet been measured. But my time is coming.
Did we actually land on the moon?
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There are many powers in the world, for good or for evil. Some are greater than I am. Against some I have not yet been measured. But my time is coming.
VTXDave
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Tis true I don't indulge, but I'll be more than happy to enjoy everyone's company while y'all indulge with Seamaiden and I'll cook y'all up some awesome 'Q of brisket and pulled pork. Sound good?
ToastedFox
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I know I'm just messin' but the company is always nice be it toker or non.. It is too bad we cant throw a RIU BBQ
maybe one day we could if it at least got decriminalized enough.
VTXDave
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Seamaiden just told me to tell ya that I gotta pass around my homebrew first and that she's too busy hackin' up a lung from a big hit of pot to even reach the keyboard from the couch to post. 
We TaRdED
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Here Dave, hit this
Ok, on that note, I apologize for disregarding your questions. As I have stated multiple times in this thread, 'the only research on the subject has been within this thread'! I'm sure you know 20 times more than me about NASA and space exploration. So the vids have been a an expedited NASA "class" for me(except on the flip side of the spectrum).
I do not know "Occam's Razor"... Whats it about?
I have posted vids other than just youtube. And my argument still holds true about the vids- "anything that can be posted via reading can be expressed via video but with the added bonus of sound and much more visuals. What can't you learn via watching than you could from reading? I have not been reading books lately because I have a mild case of ADD and its easier to use the computer.
I also studied electronics and went to school for engineering(I had family problems and couldn't finish college) and I have read plenty of books on the subject.(I was studying calculus in senior year at a vocational school.... I was probably the only one) I don't have the time or patience to go finding NASA books to read.
I never questioned the moon landing until the day I started this thread(I read "the moon landing was a hoax" from somewhere on the internet, so I started looking it up)and figured I would have some fun with it, and share it with you guys.
So take a hit of this
(or make sure he gets contact high SM) and help answer my question that me and PosNet have been pondering- why is the video like that at double speed? Please refute my logic instead of telling me how great/accomplished of a person you are.
Thanks Dave
RON PAUL REVOLUTION
~PEACE~
hyphyjoose
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Occam's Razor in it's simplest form is that the simplest answer is the best, without the inclusion of an unnecessary outside entity.. Dave can expound on it since he's got the college degree..Here Dave, hit this
Ok, on that note, I apologize for disregarding your questions. As I have stated multiple times in this thread, 'the only research on the subject has been within this thread'! I'm sure you know 20 times more than me about NASA and space exploration. So the vids have been a an expedited NASA "class" for me(except on the flip side of the spectrum).
I do not know "Occam's Razor"... Whats it about?
I have posted vids other than just youtube. And my argument still holds true about the vids- "anything that can be posted via reading can be expressed via video but with the added bonus of sound and much more visuals. What can't you learn via watching than you could from reading? I have not been reading books lately because I have a mild case of ADD and its easier to use the computer.
I also studied electronics and went to school for engineering(I had family problems and couldn't finish college) and I have read plenty of books on the subject.(I was studying calculus in senior year at a vocational school.... I was probably the only one) I don't have the time or patience to go finding NASA books to read.
I never questioned the moon landing until the day I started this thread(I read "the moon landing was a hoax" from somewhere on the internet, so I started looking it up)and figured I would have some fun with it, and share it with you guys.
So take a hit of this
Please refute my logic instead of telling me how great/accomplished of a person you are.
Thanks Dave
RON PAUL REVOLUTION
~PEACE~
Now I feel intelligent. Please let me have my moment
VTXDave
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You still have disregarded my arguments We and the only reason I stated "my accomplishments" was due to the fact the you hold PosNet in high regard because he's a web designer and you imply that he/she must be learned. I am learned as well and when I refuted your argument, you either ignored them or posted your opinion. I do not play my hand unless I have to. Your logic is flawed because you refuse to fully scrutinize the very material that you supposedly research. You claim to have an open mind, but you disregard any argument opposed to what you want to "see" on the internet. That is why Occam's Razor plays such a fundamental role in how we scrutinize evidence and events that we observe.Here Dave, hit this
Ok, on that note, I apologize for disregarding your questions. As I have stated multiple times in this thread, 'the only research on the subject has been within this thread'! I'm sure you know 20 times more than me about NASA and space exploration. So the vids have been a an expedited NASA "class" for me(except on the flip side of the spectrum).
I do not know "Occam's Razor"... Whats it about?
I have posted vids other than just youtube. And my argument still holds true about the vids- "anything that can be posted via reading can be expressed via video but with the added bonus of sound and much more visuals. What can't you learn via watching than you could from reading? I have not been reading books lately because I have a mild case of ADD and its easier to use the computer.
I also studied electronics and went to school for engineering(I had family problems and couldn't finish college) and I have read plenty of books on the subject.(I was studying calculus in senior year at a vocational school.... I was probably the only one) I don't have the time or patience to go finding NASA books to read.
I never questioned the moon landing until the day I started this thread(I read "the moon landing was a hoax" from somewhere on the internet, so I started looking it up)and figured I would have some fun with it, and share it with you guys.
So take a hit of this
Please refute my logic instead of telling me how great/accomplished of a person you are.
Thanks Dave
RON PAUL REVOLUTION
~PEACE~
I'm not on par yet as this has been a very emotional week for me (death in the family) but I'll say this...
Some of the brightest minds in science worked for NASA during the 50's and 60's. If theywere to perpetuate a fraud, don't you think that some of those brilliant minds would've looked at the hoax video and say something like "Hey! That flag is waving in the breeze! Shut the goddamn door so the breeze isn't coming in and reshoot the film!" or something like..."Hey! They're on the moon in reduced gravity! Why are they only jumping 6 inches? Get some guy wires out and pull them up higher so it appears as if they're jumping in low gravity!"
Ever thought of that? That is the root of Occam's Razor...
Amazon.com: From Occam's Razor to the Roots of Consciousness: 20 Essays on Philosophy,Philosophy of Science and Philosophy of Mind (Avebury Series in Philosophy): Gerhard D. Wassermann: Books
VTXDave
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You have your moment buddy. That pretty much sums it up.Occam's Razor in it's simplest form is that the simplest answer is the best, without the inclusion of an unnecessary outside entity.. Dave can expound on it since he's got the college degree..
Now I feel intelligent. Please let me have my moment
All things being equal, the simplest, most reasonable answer is the most accurate..
VTXDave
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And again...Why didn't the Soviets expose the fraud? Explain that. We were in the midst of a war and a race. A Cold War and a Space Race. The stage was the global community to show the rest of the world who was the best. If we had perpetuated a fraud, the Soviets would have exposed us to the entire world. How do I know that? I lived it. Few people here can probably lay claim to that. Please refute that. Why didn't the Soviets expose the fraud when they had the expertise and technology to track us to the moon and back. The race to put a man on the moon was purely political. We were engaged in a Death Match w/the Soviet Union. They would have loved nothing more than to expose us if we had executed a hoax.Here Dave, hit this
Ok, on that note, I apologize for disregarding your questions. As I have stated multiple times in this thread, 'the only research on the subject has been within this thread'! I'm sure you know 20 times more than me about NASA and space exploration. So the vids have been a an expedited NASA "class" for me(except on the flip side of the spectrum).
I do not know "Occam's Razor"... Whats it about?
I have posted vids other than just youtube. And my argument still holds true about the vids- "anything that can be posted via reading can be expressed via video but with the added bonus of sound and much more visuals. What can't you learn via watching than you could from reading? I have not been reading books lately because I have a mild case of ADD and its easier to use the computer.
I also studied electronics and went to school for engineering(I had family problems and couldn't finish college) and I have read plenty of books on the subject.(I was studying calculus in senior year at a vocational school.... I was probably the only one) I don't have the time or patience to go finding NASA books to read.
I never questioned the moon landing until the day I started this thread(I read "the moon landing was a hoax" from somewhere on the internet, so I started looking it up)and figured I would have some fun with it, and share it with you guys.
So take a hit of this
Please refute my logic instead of telling me how great/accomplished of a person you are.
Thanks Dave
RON PAUL REVOLUTION
~PEACE~
Once again...Occam's Razor.
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VTXDave
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And I'll be happy to volunteer to cook...I know I'm just messin' but the company is always nice be it toker or non.. It is too bad we cant throw a RIU BBQ
SocataSmoker
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Oh man, Dave I'll be over tomorrow!
VTXDave
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VTXDave
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Make it this weekend buddy and I might have some kickin' Pulled Pork w/ homemade Carolina BBQ dippin' sauce action goin' on.
We TaRdED
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Ok, I'll admit that I used the dreaded "youtube"(sorry I didn't want to read a book on it) to search for a brief description of Occam's Razor. Basically the guy would simply stab someone if they didn't agree with him about a debate....right? LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJZSxRhXt5M (let me look for more sources because this seems like BS)
Are you trying to stab me in the eye or something?
On a more serious note, I can only speculate why the Russians didn't/wouldn't 'rat' on us, because I don't know.
I am simply asking question with the hope of you guys explaining my qualms about the moon landings. I could very possibly be wrong about all of this. I appreciate your educated opinions on the subject and I would appreciate if you could debate about the what I have postulated about the video- about how how PosNet is positive that that speeds/'height of jump' do not coincide with what should have taken place on the moon.
Thanks Dave
RON PAUL REVOLUTION
~PEACE~
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VTXDave
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I've tried We. You're not looking for answers because I've given you my answers and the means to obtain further answers but you won't pursue them. And anytime I ask you to use common sense and refute me, your answer is..."idk". I'm done buddy.Ok, I'll admit that I used the dreaded "youtube"(sorry I didn't want to read a book on it) to search for a brief description of Occam's Razor. Basically the guy would simply stab someone if they didn't agree with him about a debate....right? LOL
Are you trying to stab me in the eye or something?
On a more serious note, I can only speculate why the Russians didn't/wouldn't 'rat' on us, because I don't know.
I am simply asking question with the hope of you guys explaining my qualms about the moon landings. I could very possibly be wrong about all of this. I appreciate your educated opinions on the subject and I would appreciate if you could debate about the what I have postulated about the video- about how how PosNet is positive that that speeds/'height of jump' do not coincide with what should have taken place on the moon.
Thanks Dave
RON PAUL REVOLUTION
~PEACE~
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We TaRdED
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Peace!
CanadianCoyote
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But, riddle me this ...
DID we actually land on the moon? I vote yes.
DID we actually land on the moon? I vote yes.
Seamaiden
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Honey.. come on, I thought you would have caught that one. He uses THE SPICE!
Occam's Razor(fight)... another way to pose the question, and the way that I make determinations on many things all the time is to ask this question; Is it more likely than not ______________________________________________?
Q: Is it more likely that the U.S. hoaxed the moon missions, or not?
A: I say it's not likely that the government went to all that trouble to fake moon landings.
Q: Is it more likely than not that the Soviets (a person doesn't have to have lived through an era themselves to be able to glean information) would expose a U.S. moon landing hoax as such?
A: I think they would, and DID, jump on any chance whatsoever to expose the U.S. government for a fraud on its people.
Q: In a razorfight, is it more likely than not that Occam would win?
A: Not if the other guy brought a gun.