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Dems can't face the parents

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
Considering the fact that Republicans were influential in cutting funding to the state department for protective services, I should think Repubs would be skulking off. Oh, I forgot, they are pretty much incapable of shame.
In your mind and heart of hearts do you believe that security was lacking in Benghazi because of sequestration? Do you honestly believe the State Dept wanted to send more security but couldn't afford it because of republicans?

I guess this is open to any of the leftists. Does anyone out there believe this?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
In your mind and heart of hearts do you believe that security was lacking in Benghazi because of sequestration? Do you honestly believe the State Dept wanted to send more security but couldn't afford it because of republicans?

I guess this is open to any of the leftists. Does anyone out there believe this?
No I believe an organized group of individuals hit a CIA outpost and you could of had a platoon of marines there and it wouldnt of made a difference
I think the terrorists got surprised at the amount of fire power we had and could bear on them. We got lucky
 

Dr Kynes

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No I believe an organized group of individuals hit a CIA outpost and you could of had a platoon of marines there and it wouldnt of made a difference
I think the terrorists got surprised at the amount of fire power we had and could bear on them. We got lucky
so, this CIA plot in benghazi? why is it that YOU (and the hajis who attacked it) are the only ones who know about it?

what was it's goal?

who was in charge?

who leaked the existence of this program to the hajis?

who leaked this info to YOU?

why should we believe this utterly preposterous tale?

there are just a few of the questions that come to mind.
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
so, this CIA plot in benghazi? why is it that YOU (and the hajis who attacked it) are the only ones who know about it?

what was it's goal?

who was in charge?

who leaked the existence of this program to the hajis?

who leaked this info to YOU?

why should we believe this utterly preposterous tale?

there are just a few of the questions that come to mind.
But he believes 9/11 Troofers are full of shit.

I love conspiracy theorists who think, "that guy is the crazy!" :dunce:
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
But he believes 9/11 Troofers are full of shit.

I love conspiracy theorists who think, "that guy is the crazy!" :dunce:
yes, i Believe* Troofers to be full of shit.

how does this make me a conspiracy theorist?


*for the purpose of this discussion "Believe" shall be construed to mean "I Know it and can Prove it."
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
a limited retaliatory strike with no boots on the ground is "balls deep"?
Think this one through. What do you think this will accomplish? What do you think the reaction will be? What will our reaction to the reaction be? Do you think it's the best course of action? Will you actually answer any of these?
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
how does this make me a conspiracy theorist?
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Ummm, you might be a bit high. "He" is a pronoun for Cheesy Balls.

What I meant was: Cheesy *believes 9/11 Troofers are bat shit crazy. But, Cheesy believes other bat shit crazy conspiracy theories, like:

"Benghazi was really a CIA operation to discredit Obama and spoil his reelection prospects. But what the CIA plan by BOOSH Sr didn't plan on was Hillary would fall on her sword for Lord Obama."

As long as there's someone else crazier, then the other crazy isn't crazy. ( According to the crazy people.)

So, I'm not saying you're a conspiracy lunatic. Can we go back to being Twilight gangstas, again?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Think this one through. What do you think this will accomplish? What do you think the reaction will be? What will our reaction to the reaction be? Do you think it's the best course of action? Will you actually answer any of these?
so despite the treaties we've signed, we just go ahead and let someone gas thousands of their own, including hundreds of children?

that would bode well for israel and us, next time we happen to be in that area.
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
so despite the treaties we've signed, we just go ahead and let someone gas thousands of their own, including hundreds of children?

that would bode well for israel and us, next time we happen to be in that area.
why you gotta do that? it wasn't thousands. We are the only ones reporting that number, hell even the people who took care of the victims have the count at about a third of what we have.

No, I don't think we should allow thousands to get gassed, but I don't think we have presented a good plan to stop it from happening.

It's funny, your dear leader has changed his position so many times you don't know what you think anymore do you. What would Obama and Ketchup's plan do to stop it? How do we avoid boots on the ground if we are going to stop it? Are you going to answer these questions with questions that are unrelated?
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
why you gotta do that? it wasn't thousands. We are the only ones reporting that number, hell even the people who took care of the victims have the count at about a third of what we have.

No, I don't think we should allow thousands to get gassed, but I don't think we have presented a good plan to stop it from happening.

It's funny, your dear leader has changed his position so many times you don't know what you think anymore do you. What would Obama and Ketchup-in-Law plan do to stop it? How do we avoid boots on the ground if we are going to stop it? Are you going to answer these questions with questions that are unrelated?
fixed that for you.

John Kerry didnt found Heinz, he married the founder's granddaughter.

Now i aint sayin he's a gold digger, but he aint fucking with no broke dowagers.

 

echelon1k1

New Member
What happened to them is that they died doing what they all chose to do, knowing the dangers in involved. To blame their deaths on the Obama administration is ludicrous, and you might as blame Bush for those deaths also, seeing that his handling of the "war on terror" put the US into this pile of shit in the first place.
Obama ordered or supported a stand down order. He is to blame.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
so, this CIA plot in benghazi? why is it that YOU (and the hajis who attacked it) are the only ones who know about it?

what was it's goal?

who was in charge?

who leaked the existence of this program to the hajis?

who leaked this info to YOU?

why should we believe this utterly preposterous tale?

there are just a few of the questions that come to mind.
http://www.amazon.com/Benghazi-The-Definitive-Report-ebook/dp/B00AHCRRJS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1379885911&sr=8-1&keywords=benghazi

well worth the read... the authors are credible, ex-SEAL instructor, ex-RANGER...
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Ummm, you might be a bit high. "He" is a pronoun for Cheesy Balls.

What I meant was: Cheesy *believes 9/11 Troofers are bat shit crazy. But, Cheesy believes other bat shit crazy conspiracy theories, like:

"Benghazi was really a CIA operation to discredit Obama and spoil his reelection prospects. But what the CIA plan by BOOSH Sr didn't plan on was Hillary would fall on her sword for Lord Obama."

As long as there's someone else crazier, then the other crazy isn't crazy. ( According to the crazy people.)

So, I'm not saying you're a conspiracy lunatic. Can we go back to being Twilight gangstas, again?
No Benghazi was a CIA operation not to discredit Obama but to do something else.
Since what they were doing is top secret and I dont have a need to know. I can only guess.
and so can everyone else.
Try google
notice that the links at the top arent from Nutters like alex jones
https://www.google.com/search?q=cia+operation+benghazi&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGHP_enUS495
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Or canna you can just be lazy and read this
The Agency, for its part, doesn't want anyone knowing what it was doing in the Libyan port city.
On Thursday Drew Griffin and Kathleen Johnston of CNN reported that the CIA "is going to great lengths to make sure whatever it was doing, remains a secret."
Sources told CNN that 35 Americans were in Benghazi that night — 21 of whom were working out of the annex — and that several were wounded, some seriously.
One source said: "You have no idea the amount of pressure being brought to bear on anyone with knowledge of this operation."
Among the questions are whether CIA missteps contributed to the security failure in Benghazi and, more importantly, whether the Agency's Benghazi operation had anything to do with reported heavy weapons shipments from the local port to Syrian rebels


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-secret-cia-mission-in-benghazi-2013-8#ixzz2ff0lh64X
 

echelon1k1

New Member
No Benghazi was a CIA operation not to discredit Obama but to do something else.
Since what they were doing is top secret and I dont have a need to know. I can only guess.
and so can everyone else.
Try google
notice that the links at the top arent from Nutters like alex jones
https://www.google.com/search?q=cia+operation+benghazi&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGHP_enUS495
don't forget, Obama personally authorised the agency's Libya mission, he is also to blame, as much as brennan is...
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Or Canna you can read this
At about 9:40 p.m. local time on Sept. 11, a mob of Libyans attacked a building housing U.S. State Department personnel. At 10:20 p.m. Americans arrived from a CIA annex located 1.2 miles away, to help the besieged Americans. At 11:15 p.m. they fled with survivors back to the secret outpost.
Armed Libyans followed them and attacked the annex with rockets and small arms from around midnight to 1:00 a.m., when there was a lull in the fighting.
Glen Doherty, a former Navy SEAL and CIA security contractor, was with a team of Joint Special Operations Command military operators and CIA agents in Tripoli at the time of the attack. When they received word of the assault on the mission, Doherty and six others bribed the pilots of small jet with $30,000 cash for a ride to Benghazi.
At about 5:15 a.m., right after Doherty's group arrived, the attackers began shooting mortars at the annex, leading to the death of Doherty and fellow former Navy SEAL and CIA contractor Tyrone Woods.
At 6 a.m. Libyan forces from the military intelligence service arrived and subsequently took more than 30 Americans — only seven of whom were from the State Department — to the Benghazi airport.
So the CIA's response to go to the mission where Ambassador Christopher Stevens was located, after being held back for 20 minutes, saved American lives but also ended up exposing the annex.
And according to Paula Broadwell, the mistress of David Petraeus when he was CIA director, the CIA may have provided an impetus for the attack by holding prisoners: "Now I don't know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back."


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-secret-cia-mission-in-benghazi-2013-8#ixzz2ff1PaA7h
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Or Canna you can read this
'At its heart a CIA operation'The top-secret presence and location of the CIA outpost was first acknowledged by Charlene Lamb, a top official in the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security, during Congressional testimony in October.
Representatives Jason Chaffetz and Darrell Issa immediately called a point of order when Lamb exposed the location of the annex, and asked for the revelation to be stricken from the record.
“I totally object to the use of that photo,” Chaffetz. said. “I was told specifically while I was in Libya I could not and should not ever talk about what you’re showing here today.”
In November The Wall Street Journal reported that the U.S. mission in Benghazi "was at its heart a CIA operation."
In January, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told Congress that the CIA was leading a "concerted effort to try to track down and find and recover ... MANPADS [man-portable air defense systems]" looted from the stockpiles of toppled Libyan ruler Muammar Qaddafi.
The State Department "consulate" served as diplomatic cover for the previously-hidden annex.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-secret-cia-mission-in-benghazi-2013-8#ixzz2ff1ag4w7
 
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