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akula

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Another defol thread, another that cites a hack site as a guide. Come on guys, GrowWeedEasy is NOT a legitimate guide to growing cannabis. Its a horrible hack site filled with every bad internet wife's tale you can think of.

RoseyPeach your plant looks like a mother. Has it been used as a mother?
 
Impman

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impmans Theory: No one ever use to defoliate weed until ' The Karate Kid' came out. Everyone was getting stoned and trying to go Mr. Miyagi on their trees.

No, but seriously, to the moderators: This is how hackers go fishing. They get on RIU and make a controversial thread about defoiliation and put up links to fake webages, trying to get their hooks into someone. Defoiliation is STUPID and made up bullshit. It is a CON, it is crap. Some aholes started the rumor knowing it was bullshit. Now it has become a part of this nutty marijuana grow culture we have, where very little 'REAL ' scientific research has any bearing.
Many growers on RIU will take what these CON men and hackers post 'as fact' as long as there is a web page.
 
Uncle Ben

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Impman said:
impmans Theory: No one ever use to defoliate weed until ' The Karate Kid' came out. Everyone was getting stoned and trying to go Mr. Miyagi on their trees.

No, but seriously, to the moderators: This is how hackers go fishing. They get on RIU and make a controversial thread about defoiliation and put up links to fake webages, trying to get their hooks into someone. Defoiliation is STUPID and made up bullshit. It is a CON, it is crap. Some aholes started the rumor knowing it was bullshit. Now it has become a part of this nutty marijuana grow culture we have, where very little 'REAL ' scientific research has any bearing.
Many growers on RIU will take what these CON men and hackers post 'as fact' as long as there is a web page.
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If it's posted on the internet and someone repeats it, then it must be true, right?

There's a lot of "made up bullshit" in cannabis forums, the practice of "flushing" before harvest is another one. Perfect opener for the shysters to sell some shit that flushes your pot supposedly making it smoother.

Amazing how many suckers are drawn to this biz.

UB
 
Impman

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Uncle Ben said:
If it's posted on the internet and someone repeats it, then it must be true, right?

There's a lot of "made up bullshit" in cannabis forums, the practice of "flushing" before harvest is another one. Perfect opener for the shysters to sell some shit that flushes your pot supposedly making it smoother.

Amazing how many suckers are drawn to this biz.

UB
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Well yeah, but look at the Alaskan Gold Rush in the 1800s. Thousands of men flocked to the Alaskan bush with like one pair of socks and shorts on. The smart ones or more like 'hustlers' sold the equipment. Do you think they sold them the practical equipment, just the bare essentials as to not have too much weight??? Hell no! They sold those poor bastards anything and everything, whether it was needed or not. At least the Marijuana hustlers just take newbs money and not also leave a trail of dead gold seekers.
 
roseypeach

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akula said:
Another defol thread, another that cites a hack site as a guide. Come on guys, GrowWeedEasy is NOT a legitimate guide to growing cannabis. Its a horrible hack site filled with every bad internet wife's tale you can think of.

RoseyPeach your plant looks like a mother. Has it been used as a mother?
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No it hasn't, I wish ;)
I'm praying I get a decent yield out of it.
and just so you know, I had absolutely no idea that the info I got was meant as advertisement.
I feel a bit foolish now :neutral:
 
Uncle Ben

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Impman said:
Well yeah, but look at the Alaskan Gold Rush in the 1800s. Thousands of men flocked to the Alaskan bush with like one pair of socks and shorts on. The smart ones or more like 'hustlers' sold the equipment. Do you think they sold them the practical equipment, just the bare essentials as to not have too much weight??? Hell no! They sold those poor bastards anything and everything, whether it was needed or not. At least the Marijuana hustlers just take newbs money and not also leave a trail of dead gold seekers.
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A thousand flies on a pile of shit can't be wrong. :)
 
Impman

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roseypeach said:
No it hasn't, I wish ;)
I'm praying I get a decent yield out of it.
and just so you know, I had absolutely no idea that the info I got was meant as advertisement.
I feel a bit foolish now :neutral:
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You are ok ! at least that is just one plant!You need to head over to Uncle Bens Posts, threads , anything UB you can find, read it. You will get a rare bit of honest grow tips. The most scientifically sound information will not be on a Weed Web Page. Google how to grow house plants and or tomato. The worst place, ironically, for a newb to gather information is on newb forum. Also, if you ever see a grow shop, get as far away from the place as possible. they are hustlers.
these are some sound tips from newb to newb. Anytime you see or hear the word Defoiliation it should have the same ring to it as would Paula Dean saying the 'N' word. its a dirty, bad word that only firemen should use.
 
akula

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roseypeach said:
No it hasn't, I wish ;)
I'm praying I get a decent yield out of it.
and just so you know, I had absolutely no idea that the info I got was meant as advertisement.
I feel a bit foolish now :neutral:
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Almost every website uses advertisement to earn. Some have good information, some have bad, some have a mix of both. That one simply went out and copied every good and bad technique to growing cannabis that one could find in Google. That is why it is bad. You cant take the site serious when it advocates making flavored weed by adding flavored sugar water (AKA Kool-Aide) to your nute schedule. Other examples with that hack site, but its just that, some hack regurgitating bullshit.
 
skunkd0c

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some folk on RIU say they spending $400-700 on magic stuff each crop just to grow 2kg
wtf is that all about , snake oils lol

the hype feeds more hype , i think its best to let hipsters get on with it, if they want to waste their money
these type of people are buying into the idea they will have the edge over other growers if they use these products
they then sell their bud to folk who believe it is better because it was grown with these extra snake oils
you can try to convince them they are wasting their time, but they will not hear it,
they have invested in these snake oils to give them that edge they seek
i think it gives them some kind of ego boost too thinking their weed is better, they seem to not grasp the fact its all down to personal preference anyway
 
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Didnt really read through cause ive read all the debate threads on this topic but i can tell you

i have done the defoliating stuff. Side by side in sealed enviroment with clones off same plant ect... huge difference in yeilds on the plants. my defoliated literally stopped growing width on my buds and pretty much stunted them. Lost about zip an half from those 2 compared to rest.

now i keep all leaves on and green until the end and plants love it.
 
hyroot

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I have a buddy who does chemy hydro. He has every type of meter. Buys all the expensive chemy general hydro and house and garden line. And defoliates. Mine are soil lliving organics. I use kelp meal, neem meal, rock dust, and crab meal, homemade vermicompost. That's it. When his are done the buds are the size of mine when they are at week 5-6. His buds look beautiful. Not much smell or taste. Not that potent and very harsh. When mine are done they 2-3 times the size of his. 3 times as potent. Much more frosty and colorful. Mine won't even make you cough. He hates on me so tough. Goes around talking mad shit on my buds. Mine are far superior to his. He spends a couple hundred every month. I spend that once every 6-8 months.
 
socaljoe

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hyroot said:
I have a buddy who does chemy hydro. He has every type of meter. Buys all the expensive chemy general hydro and house and garden line. And defoliates. Mine are soil lliving organics. I use kelp meal, neem meal, rock dust, and crab meal, homemade vermicompost. That's it. When his are done the buds are the size of mine when they are at week 5-6. His buds look beautiful. Not much smell or taste. Not that potent and very harsh. When mine are done they 2-3 times the size of his. 3 times as potent. Much more frosty and colorful. Mine won't even make you cough. He hates on me so tough. Goes around talking mad shit on my buds. Mine are far superior to his. He spends a couple hundred every month. I spend that once every 6-8 months.
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Hard to argue with results...oh wait, no it's not, this is an internet forum. :lol:

Would like to see some pics if you've got any.
 
Alexander Supertramp

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skunkd0c said:
some folk on RIU say they spending $400-700 on magic stuff each crop just to grow 2kg
wtf is that all about , snake oils lol

the hype feeds more hype , i think its best to let hipsters get on with it, if they want to waste their money
these type of people are buying into the idea they will have the edge over other growers if they use these products
they then sell their bud to folk who believe it is better because it was grown with these extra snake oils
you can try to convince them they are wasting their time, but they will not hear it,
they have invested in these snake oils to give them that edge they seek
i think it gives them some kind of ego boost too thinking their weed is better, they seem to not grasp the fact its all down to personal preference anyway
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If it costs more to grow it. And you used some cool sounding training technique it must be better...as I roll my eyes.
 
skunkd0c

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Alexander Supertramp said:
If it costs more to grow it. And you used some cool sounding training technique it must be better...as I roll my eyes.
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so many get sucked in
i see folk growing just a few plants in pots, take pictures of their haul of magic potions in all the pretty bottles and packaging they come in
in some cases like 6-8 different bottles of stuff just for additives
looks like they gonna open their own hydro shop lol

often folk who over-complicate these things by using so many additives have average at best looking plants too

i do try to tell them to maybe try without all those additives, and they laugh like i am not aware of the special secret they know about
oh well , i wont force the issue i just move on

peace
 
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