defoliation question..... anyone familiar with it?

Alexander Supertramp

Alexander Supertramp

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Its not us old timers that need to update our almanacs. Its folks like Sir Ganja that needs to broaden his understanding of plants beyond the cannabis forum BS. So limited in your knowledge. Most of what you say works within the confines of forum culture. In the real world though they just dont cut it.
 
Alexander Supertramp

Alexander Supertramp

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I had some enjoyable and interesting conversations in this thread. And read some things that made me cringe and chuckle. If you want to be Columbus the II and prove the world isnt round then by all means try. Wish you the best in breaking some of the physical laws of nature and proving it.


Peace OUT...............
 
keebo3000

keebo3000

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Alexander Supertramp said:
I had some enjoyable and interesting conversations in this thread. And read some things that made me cringe and chuckle. If you want to be Columbus the II and prove the world isnt round then by all means try. Wish you the best in breaking some of the physical laws of nature and proving it.


Peace OUT...............
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peace man, have a good one.
 
Slab

Slab

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thanks for the discussion Keebo, ( just got up from my granpa dank nap)

Keep in my mind they do develope thc glands, a garden of a few dozen plants will have a nice harvest of trichs.

If you go by trich to plant matter wieght ratio, they could yeild more than a popcorn bud.

If you are going to prune atleast save the leaf for salads .
 
akula

akula

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PJ Diaz said:
No. What it means is that you took it upon yourself to attack a "pest" without a firm understanding of the nature of that pest. "Confirmation bias" seems like the last lesson you should have learned from that experience. How about learning what the nature of your enemy is before you attack it? That would be a more valuable lesson, IMO.



Wait a sec dude. Are you high, or just confused? You don't think that photosynthesis uses viable light? WTF?!

Learn about the light dude. Here's the first page I pulled up in a random google search of "photosynthesis visible light": http://www.botany.uwc.ac.za/ecotree/photosynthesis/spectrum.htm

From that page:


You just lost any credit you could have ever had with me.
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You are either an extremely simple minded person, or you are being obtuse on purpose. I never did mention the "visible light spectrum", but instead light that is visible, or perceivable to us. You know, like when its reflected like the article you posted also reiterates. If its not being reflected then it is being absorbed so it is not "visible" to us. As in if light is being absorbed, it will not be reflected, it will not be visible, there is no need to allow reflected light from fan leaves to pass any further down the plant now is there? Any light being used, will be absorbed thus not reflected or visible to you.

I dont know if that makes it harder for you to understand or easier for you and I dont really care because if you are not intelligent enough to follow along with the debate, you probably shouldn't be commenting and I probably shouldn't be wasting my time to bring you up to speed. I could care less if I have lost credit with you, your comprehension of the subject here is pretty elementary anyways.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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akula said:
You are either an extremely simple minded person, or you are being obtuse on purpose. I never did mention the "visible light spectrum", but instead light that is visible, or perceivable to us. You know, like when its reflected like the article you posted also reiterates. If its not being reflected then it is being absorbed so it is not "visible" to us. As in if light is being absorbed, it will not be reflected, it will not be visible, there is no need to allow reflected light from fan leaves to pass any further down the plant now is there? Any light being used, will be absorbed thus not reflected or visible to you.
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Um, ok sure. That's not what you said earlier. As a reminder, as to what you did say:


akula said:
...photosynthesis does not use visible light in its processes...
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akula

akula

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PJ Diaz said:
Um, ok sure. That's not what you said earlier. As a reminder, as to what you did say:
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How about you just quit taking it out of context ok?
Instead we get the "fan leaves shade bud sites", while ignoring the fact that photosynthesis does not use visible light in its processes
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So which is it? You too dense to follow along here or are you just being an obtuse troll?
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Plants absorb AND reflect green light. Leaves are green due to a compound called chlorophyll. The light absorbed by chlorophyll is used to power photosynthesis, the conversion of light energy into chemical energy. On a relative basis, chlorophyll absorbs more blue and red light, compared to green light; and therefore reflects less red and blue light. As a result, there is more green light than red or blue light reflected, so the chlorophyll containing part of the plant appears green.

It is commonly thought that chlorophyll does not absorb green light, but that is a fallacy. A dark green leaf can absorb 90% of the green light impinging on it. In contrast, 95% of the red and blue light may be absorbed.

I hope you can follow this ok.
 
akula

akula

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PJ Diaz said:
Plants absorb AND reflect green light.


I hope you can follow this ok.
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Any light absorbed is not reflected and any light not reflected is not visible since it is absorbed. Are you the resident troll here or just the forum idiot? I don't have time for either and the rest of your post has nothing to do with any claim I made. I am sure it was simply added to hide the fact that your trolling or just stupid. Anyways have fun trolling or drooling on yourself, whichever it is you do.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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akula said:
PJ Diaz said:
Plants absorb AND reflect green light.


I hope you can follow this ok.
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Any light absorbed is not reflected and any light not reflected is not visible since it is absorbed. Are you the resident troll here or just the forum idiot? I don't have time for either and the rest of your post has nothing to do with any claim I made. I am sure it was simply added to hide the fact that your trolling or just stupid. Anyways have fun trolling or drooling on yourself, whichever it is you do.
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I'm not the one trying to get rid of blackberry bushes with a chainsaw over here buddy.
 
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rooky1985

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PJ Diaz said:
The only thing I'll be drooling over tonight is this:

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Scanned through this whole thread and finally saw something I liked. Just wanted to know from you Mr. Diaz Should I trim minimal fan leaf in a scrog? I will deff. tidy up the under carriage of un-needed bud sights but should I trim the fans that cover up prospected bud sights on top of the canopy? I like to leave the fans through flowering as a source of late nutrition after the final flush. Will the said bud sights on the canopy be effected by the "Shade" provided by upper canopy fans? I'm asking because it seems that you know your stuff!
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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rooky1985 said:
Scanned through this whole thread and finally saw something I liked. Just wanted to know from you Mr. Diaz Should I trim minimal fan leaf in a scrog? I will deff. tidy up the under carriage of un-needed bud sights but should I trim the fans that cover up prospected bud sights on top of the canopy? I like to leave the fans through flowering as a source of late nutrition after the final flush. Will the said bud sights on the canopy be effected by the "Shade" provided by upper canopy fans? I'm asking because it seems that you know your stuff!
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I don't know. I'm testing the defoil method on this run. I haven't done scrog either, so I don't have experience there. Sorry. I'll be able to give you a better opinion about defoil in about 4 weeks. So far however it seems to be working good. The method I'm going by is to do a defoil of major fans at 14 days after 12/12 switch, and then again at around 42 to 45 days.
 
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rooky1985

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PJ Diaz said:
I don't know. I'm testing the defoil method on this run. I haven't done scrog either, so I don't have experience there. Sorry. I'll be able to give you a better opinion about defoil in about 4 weeks. So far however it seems to be working good. The method I'm going by is to do a defoil of major fans at 14 days after 12/12 switch, and then again at around 42 to 45 days.
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I will be back in touch to see how things work out, thanks a bunch.
 
Sir.Ganga

Sir.Ganga

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Alexander Supertramp said:
Its not us old timers that need to update our almanacs. Its folks like Sir Ganja that needs to broaden his understanding of plants beyond the cannabis forum BS. So limited in your knowledge. Most of what you say works within the confines of forum culture. In the real world though they just dont cut it.
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My understanding of horticulture and plant development isn't the ones in question, remember??? Sad you have to try to turn things around when someone calls you out! Shows your credibility for everyone to see.
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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PJ Diaz said:
I don't know. I'm testing the defoil method on this run. I haven't done scrog either, so I don't have experience there. Sorry. I'll be able to give you a better opinion about defoil in about 4 weeks. So far however it seems to be working good. The method I'm going by is to do a defoil of major fans at 14 days after 12/12 switch, and then again at around 42 to 45 days.
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Like I said, it's the blind leading the blind around here, hah!
 
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