gardengardian7
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No no no bro i was conversing with you as if i were sitting at your table. Im speaking in general . The word that you delivered was good soil ammendment for the grower. Youre all good bro.
Defoliation During Flower...
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weedenhanced
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try this on 1 plant 1 week before u pull ur plant defoliate entire plant every leaf sugars included ...it will make ur drying and curing so much faster there is no risk of seed cause of time frame for pull when u subject ur plant to high levels of dryness no leaves low humidity the plant will produce more resin ur buds not only look better they will cure faster as well try it man go on risk it do it u know u wanna
weedenhanced
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Fuck Mother Nature I agree why we grow indoors with fake light with chemicals and a fake environment ....tho if she is hot id fuck her just for that
ButchyBoy
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I thought it was silly that someone has started yet another thread asking about stripping a plant of the only part of the plant that collects energy from light.
We all try to add more light to our rooms in the name of more light to the plant... Why would you remove what collects that light????? Makes no sense at all!!!
At this point all you can do is give it a try. I did it and saw a reduction of growth.
As for the comment about the man made environment and altering what the plant does........
Isn't the goal of an indoor room to mimic the outside environment??? I know a bunch of you are indoors to hide your garden from the public eye, some like me are indoors because of the winter weather but trying to make a plant do something it was not designed to do is counter productive.
I have never heard of a marathon runner chopping toe's off to lighten their feet... Sure you can run without toe's but your performance will suffer!!
We all try to add more light to our rooms in the name of more light to the plant... Why would you remove what collects that light????? Makes no sense at all!!!
At this point all you can do is give it a try. I did it and saw a reduction of growth.
As for the comment about the man made environment and altering what the plant does........
Isn't the goal of an indoor room to mimic the outside environment??? I know a bunch of you are indoors to hide your garden from the public eye, some like me are indoors because of the winter weather but trying to make a plant do something it was not designed to do is counter productive.
I have never heard of a marathon runner chopping toe's off to lighten their feet... Sure you can run without toe's but your performance will suffer!!
CaretakerDad
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At the risk of seeming smart could you please explain to me how a plant produces more Trichinosis to defend itself? Was it the Walrus meat?
Courtesy of Healthline:
Trichinosis is a disease caused by a roundworm that is found in animals that eat meat. Humans can be infected when they eat undercooked pig, horse, bear, fox, and walrus meat.
Sadly you must kill your plants, according to the CDC there is NO CURE and defoliation is NOT a treatment
Treating Trichinosis
Unfortunately, the worm infection in muscle that accompanies trichinosis cannot be cured. Doctors will focus on treating your symptoms. The earlier your treatment begins, the better your prognosis. Doctors will usually prescribe a combination of the following:
- anti-parasitic medication
- steroids to help control inflammation
- pain medication for muscle aches
weedenhanced
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Stupid auto correctAt the risk of seeming smart could you please explain to me how a plant produces more Trichinosis to defend itself? Was it the Walrus meat?
Courtesy of Healthline:
Trichinosis is a disease caused by a roundworm that is found in animals that eat meat. Humans can be infected when they eat undercooked pig, horse, bear, fox, and walrus meat.
Sadly you must kill your plants, according to the CDC there is NO CURE and defoliation is NOT a treatment
Treating Trichinosis
Unfortunately, the worm infection in muscle that accompanies trichinosis cannot be cured. Doctors will focus on treating your symptoms. The earlier your treatment begins, the better your prognosis. Doctors will usually prescribe a combination of the following:
My apologies to the victims
- anti-parasitic medication
- steroids to help control inflammation
- pain medication for muscle aches
ThE_420KING
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Defoliation during flower-
my theory is that the plant is geared towards stress in the wild. a plant that is defoliated properly will grow stronger than one that is not, if done in the correct way.
if you take a few leaves every day, or during extremely vigorous growth, twice a day you induce a small amount of stress. only 3-4 leaves at a time.
it induces a stress response in the plant to quickly replenish the plant as quickly as possible. and during the night period will heal itself. do this during a few day period and then give the plant time to recover.
what i usually find is i get no loss in speed in growth and actually seem to get a boost in growth.
doing this in this method allows me to continue this slow defoliation up until about week 3 in flower. during this time i am able to slowly allow every bud site on the plant to get direct sunlight within approx 6” below the canopy.
while i do this slow defoliation i also lollipop the plants into my scrog and have all just cola tops. i keep 2-3 nodes per top.
If you defoliate 20-30 leaves in a sitting you will cause stress and lose out on redistributed energy while the plant rebuilds itself. it will also cause stress to the plant in a non productive way.
a plant that is grown outdoors will always be stronger than an indoors plant. it deals with weather, animals, bugs, high heat, cold temps, etc.
when growing indoors we must induce SOME stress to push the plant to its maximum genetic potential.
Just be reasonable when doing it.
think about how a persons bone heals after it is broken. it is stronger due to the calcium buildup at the break, similar to supercropping. theorhetically we could break every bone in a humans body and create a super skeleton person. now ask yourself, what would cause less stress - breaking all the bones in one sitting? or strategically breaking them during an extended period of time while we control external circumstances?
Most problems people have about growing can be solved by themselves with just using some common sense. imagine how the plant feels for once instead of fully focusing on the end product.
rant over
my theory is that the plant is geared towards stress in the wild. a plant that is defoliated properly will grow stronger than one that is not, if done in the correct way.
if you take a few leaves every day, or during extremely vigorous growth, twice a day you induce a small amount of stress. only 3-4 leaves at a time.
it induces a stress response in the plant to quickly replenish the plant as quickly as possible. and during the night period will heal itself. do this during a few day period and then give the plant time to recover.
what i usually find is i get no loss in speed in growth and actually seem to get a boost in growth.
doing this in this method allows me to continue this slow defoliation up until about week 3 in flower. during this time i am able to slowly allow every bud site on the plant to get direct sunlight within approx 6” below the canopy.
while i do this slow defoliation i also lollipop the plants into my scrog and have all just cola tops. i keep 2-3 nodes per top.
If you defoliate 20-30 leaves in a sitting you will cause stress and lose out on redistributed energy while the plant rebuilds itself. it will also cause stress to the plant in a non productive way.
a plant that is grown outdoors will always be stronger than an indoors plant. it deals with weather, animals, bugs, high heat, cold temps, etc.
when growing indoors we must induce SOME stress to push the plant to its maximum genetic potential.
Just be reasonable when doing it.
think about how a persons bone heals after it is broken. it is stronger due to the calcium buildup at the break, similar to supercropping. theorhetically we could break every bone in a humans body and create a super skeleton person. now ask yourself, what would cause less stress - breaking all the bones in one sitting? or strategically breaking them during an extended period of time while we control external circumstances?
Most problems people have about growing can be solved by themselves with just using some common sense. imagine how the plant feels for once instead of fully focusing on the end product.
rant over
I just run fucked up timers and light cycles, alternate a over and under watering schedules two or three times a grow feed full strength meaning straight fertilizer don't mix it with any water at all.
Rootballs trimmed in a blender the 3rd day of week 2, day 2 0f week 5, and the last thursday before harvest unless its thanksgiving then do it on friday but yield will suffer. Its best to have no ventilation and temps as high as possible to make them mf's thirsty with no roots and you'll have killer shit and uuuggggeee yields.
Maybe an optional infestation of thrips or mites the last couple weeks for flavor. I like thrips because they have no webs and have more of a nutty flavor compared to spicy ass spider mites.
Rootballs trimmed in a blender the 3rd day of week 2, day 2 0f week 5, and the last thursday before harvest unless its thanksgiving then do it on friday but yield will suffer. Its best to have no ventilation and temps as high as possible to make them mf's thirsty with no roots and you'll have killer shit and uuuggggeee yields.
Maybe an optional infestation of thrips or mites the last couple weeks for flavor. I like thrips because they have no webs and have more of a nutty flavor compared to spicy ass spider mites.
Please explain the difference between stress and stress for me genius. Your response is as childish as your sorry ass rant is anecdotal evidence and bro science mixed with a lil duh.
How are you measuring these gains in yield and quality with your 4leaf redistributed energy testing?
Sums up your post brilliantly
You make a post on a 5 year old thread about cutting off leaves/lollipopping for yield and quality then end your rant with
"imagine how the plant feels for once instead of fully focusing on the end product"
and call me a fucking dipshit? Bye bye troll
Crazy to think of all the idiots spending tons of money trying to make perfect environments only to end up with inferior product. Good thing you came along with your "theories".
Leaves are the vascular system of the plant, that make food, move food, transpiration, respiration, temp control, and CO2 intake. Bones are there for for structure your analogy would've been better using organs.
What if one plant has ten leaves and the other has 100 leaves do these amounts stay the same? Does percentage of actual leaves on the plant, light intensity, or light spectrum make any difference?
How are you measuring these gains in yield and quality with your 4leaf redistributed energy testing?
Theory + rhetoric= theorhetically
Sums up your post brilliantly
You make a post on a 5 year old thread about cutting off leaves/lollipopping for yield and quality then end your rant with
"imagine how the plant feels for once instead of fully focusing on the end product"
and call me a fucking dipshit? Bye bye troll
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madvillian420
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hey for sure stop replying to posts from 2014. This thread should have died years ago.
The irony
Whats "kokmucnh" a hybrid language you made up after huffin paint. Sounds like a cross between german and fuckin moron.
Budzbuddha
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Thought that was a cereal ...... COCOCRUNCH or some fucking shit.
ThE_420KING
Member
oooooh good one buckwheat
ThE_420KING
Member
MUNCH MY KOK
does that make more sense in your feeble little mind?
my kok your mouth?
Yeah not as good as "kokmucnh" or "buckwheat" you must be the cool guy at recess.
Didn't you post under the name trisomy 21 for a while? Its a fitting name you should use it.
Try spelling munch right its only five letters. How would I know what it meant? You have three different versions of the same word in two posts. My captain crunch decoder ring broke trying to make sense of all your gibberish.
What version is the correct one to use to be a cool kid.
kokmunch
kok munch
kokmucnh
I think the irony of your posts elude you.
Budzbuddha
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Hmmm ... a basement dwelling sack sucker fapping to shirtless boy pics .....
Now THAT makes fucking sense ..... Derp