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danimalistic

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My first grow. Plants are nearly 2 months. Fed light nutes and were rootbound for a bit. I repotted and used a good dose of fertilizer last weekend. No improvement. Leaves yellowing and dropping from bottom of plants.
 

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tell me about your fertilizer. NPK.

Then tell me the ppm you used.

You fertilized last weekend, how are you watering? Do you go water, feed, water, feed? (seperated by days)
 
so your worried about the couple fan leafs on the bottom? thats not out of the ordinary it looks like you had a problem at one time like a couple weeks back just keep an eye on it I dont think its a big deal as new growth sprouts the plant dosent put much energy in to the lower stuff any more dont trip about a leaf or two no it a big chunk of your plant looks like that you hsve problems
 
GrowTeam said:
tell me about your fertilizer. NPK.

Then tell me the ppm you used.

You fertilized last weekend, how are you watering? Do you go water, feed, water, feed? (seperated by days)
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I had no schedule. I fertilized them a quarter to half strength 3-4 times in 2 months. Gave en full strength last week
 
hells canyon genetics said:
so your worried about the couple fan leafs on the bottom? thats not out of the ordinary it looks like you had a problem at one time like a couple weeks back just keep an eye on it I dont think its a big deal as new growth sprouts the plant dosent put much energy in to the lower stuff any more dont trip about a leaf or two no it a big chunk of your plant looks like that you hsve problems
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Its dropping at a rate to where some plants are stuck at the same number of nodes off main stalk..a new set of leaves appears and one drops from bottom
 
as new growth sprouts the plant will stop putting energy to the bottom leafs

look at the pics your tops are so perky they have that praying look they are sticking out at a angle towards the sun plants dont usually do that if theres somthing serious going on really if you pulled those couple leafs off look at the rest of the plant theres nothing to serious going on ya you might need a lil Potassium since its been hot out and a lil Nitrogen to bring a lil more color to them but we are still talking about a couple old bottom fan leafs

now I could totally be way off here theres no real way for me to tell whats all going on from 4 pics im looking at from my phone
 
and the root bound thing ive been in the horticulture business for 20 years and have planted hundreds of thousands of plants in thousands of varieties root bound is not necessarily bad (and define root bound do you have any pics) healthy plants get root bound and use more water and nutes ok that can be a problem ya but dont realy get deficiencies (deficiencies means the plant has the nutes available but is not able to absorb them due to things like ph, over watering, soil temps exc) its real hard like next to impossible to over water a root bound plant or give it to much nutes ya you can do it but it would be alot becouse of it being root bound its useing more than normal root bound plants usually run in to problems from not having enough food/nutes not the other way around
 
hells canyon genetics said:
and the root bound thing ive been in the horticulture business for 20 years and have planted hundreds of thousands of plants in thousands of varieties root bound is not necessarily bad (and define root bound do you have any pics) healthy plants get root bound and use more water and nutes ok that can be a problem ya but dont realy get deficiencies (deficiencies means the plant has the nutes available but is not able to absorb them due to things like ph, over watering, soil temps exc) its real hard like next to impossible to over water a root bound plant or give it to much nutes ya you can do it but it would be alot becouse of it being root bound its useing more than normal root bound plants usually run in to problems from not having enough food/nutes not the other way around
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When i transplanted i noticed the roots made a thick white mat at bottom of dirt mass. I looked and imagined the roots were so massed up there that no water would go through..lol. It was bad..all
 
hells canyon genetics said:
and the root bound thing ive been in the horticulture business for 20 years and have planted hundreds of thousands of plants in thousands of varieties root bound is not necessarily bad (and define root bound do you have any pics) healthy plants get root bound and use more water and nutes ok that can be a problem ya but dont realy get deficiencies (deficiencies means the plant has the nutes available but is not able to absorb them due to things like ph, over watering, soil temps exc) its real hard like next to impossible to over water a root bound plant or give it to much nutes ya you can do it but it would be alot becouse of it being root bound its useing more than normal root bound plants usually run in to problems from not having enough food/nutes not the other way around
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Thats exactly what i was saying .maybe rooutbound conditions caused deficiency. Well..that and the scarce light feedings
 
the white mat as a landscaper we would take box knifes to those im a lill scared to go that extreme but I do pull that stuff apart by hand if not just remove it carefully

the redish lines are usually the first sign of the plant having troubles absorbing nutes dont freak out when you see them but it's just a sign now if your stalk is all purple then its time to freak out
(some strains will genetically just have these lines)

so it is definitely not sounding as its a deficiency nutes available but not being absorb as described above
its sounding more like nutes are not present as in you need to feed it more that root mass can consume a good dose of nutes idk what you are using for food/nutes but they need more
 
hells canyon genetics said:
the white mat as a landscaper we would take box knifes to those im a lill scared to go that extreme but I do pull that stuff apart by hand if not just remove it carefully

the redish lines are usually the first sign of the plant having troubles absorbing nutes dont freak out when you see them but it's just a sign now if your stalk is all purple then its time to freak out
(some strains will genetically just have these lines)

so it is definitely not sounding as its a deficiency nutes available but not being absorb as described above
its sounding more like nutes are not present as in you need to feed it more that root mass can consume a good dose of nutes idk what you are using for food/nutes but they need more
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Mg liquid fert 24-8-16 about once a week at quarter to half strength..epsoma 10-5-5 dry fert applied to top of mix a few times in last 3 weeks at maybe quarter strength.
 
hells canyon genetics said:
the white mat as a landscaper we would take box knifes to those im a lill scared to go that extreme but I do pull that stuff apart by hand if not just remove it carefully

the redish lines are usually the first sign of the plant having troubles absorbing nutes dont freak out when you see them but it's just a sign now if your stalk is all purple then its time to freak out
(some strains will genetically just have these lines)

so it is definitely not sounding as its a deficiency nutes available but not being absorb as described above
its sounding more like nutes are not present as in you need to feed it more that root mass can consume a good dose of nutes idk what you are using for food/nutes but they need more
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The days have been unusually hot the last week..mid 90s and humid for ohio
 
harris hawk said:
NORMAL - for an outside grow - no worries good looking plants; strain?
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Northern light. Afgan kush and super skunk. Feelin like leaf drop has actually picked up. Drying of leaves ..some plants have 3 sets of leaves at bottom yellowing or drying and wilting some while still green
 
danimalistic said:
Mg liquid fert 24-8-16 about once a week at quarter to half strength..epsoma 10-5-5 dry fert applied to top of mix a few times in last 3 weeks at maybe quarter strength.
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24-8-16 is what I would consider to be very strong nutes I try to stick around 5-5-5 give or take
10-5-5 dry I would just make sure that you dont get to close to the main stalk of the plants keep it towards the outer ring of the pot I realy like top dressings they work great
what are your soil temps? seriously shade those pots it might be that simple
 
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