We're currently growing in Super Soil. We're not sure we got our numbers entirely right. We are 21 days into flowering and we're definitely seeing a problem. This condition started out only on the lower leaves but today we noticed it in the upper leaves too. Can someone please identify the problem and tell us what to do to solve it??? Please help ASAP!! Thanks!
Deficiency or Over-fed, Need help FAST!!!!
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ataxia
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this seems to happen to all my plants at least a month into flowering ... I'd say it's normal. I'd also say you may want to flush in case it's lockout. a more experienced grower may be able to help more
justparanoid
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post a pic of the plant please, we can tell much more by the alive leaves.
Relaxed
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I would say not a good thing one month in to flower. Nothing to go crazy about. Suggestion. Flush 3 times water size pot. your in soil right?....Under or over, def. etc. nuting will not be a problem if you look at sunleaves seabird guano....10-10-10...Everything is covered....use it from beginning to end....tip....get a sharpe pen....poke hole 3 inches and fill about an inch with guano. cover with soil and water as usual. Repeat monthly. the last month use less guano. no more over/under nut. organic and huge buds...thank me later with a few pics...good luck....$15 on the net...
LOL I guess peeps don't read close enough. You're in super soil, right?
How in the hell is a flush supposed to do anything? Those nutes aren't just in the soil, they are PART of it.
Looks more like a lockout problem due to pH.
Did you add powdered dolomite lime to your ss mix? How much?
What is your run off pH?
Did you add your Myco's and BB when you wet it down and started the 'cook'?
Wet
How in the hell is a flush supposed to do anything? Those nutes aren't just in the soil, they are PART of it.
Looks more like a lockout problem due to pH.
Did you add powdered dolomite lime to your ss mix? How much?
What is your run off pH?
Did you add your Myco's and BB when you wet it down and started the 'cook'?
Wet
Relaxed
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what the hell is the difference in soil and super soil? Any soil can be flushed and should if issues appear. You are right about the ph level question. I am assuming all watering are within ph. needs? Otherwise back up and buy a digital metter $30 so that doesn't happen.
Look in subcools organic sub forum for super soil. It is a very heavily amended organic soil that is very hot to say the least. Nothing but water needs to be added and is too hot for seedlings or fresh clones.
Transplants need to be in neutral soil and allowed to grow into the super soil, otherwise they get burnt.
If you take a look at the recipe, you will understand.
Wet
Transplants need to be in neutral soil and allowed to grow into the super soil, otherwise they get burnt.
If you take a look at the recipe, you will understand.
Wet
Relaxed
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ok ive read it before. i believe in simple is better....so it's about the same as my soil....
FFOF
domolite lime
added seabird guano....
yep a little hot for young plants. i usually reuse soil and amend it with domolite and seabird gauno (1/2 flushed soil and 1/2 ffof). yes you sure can and should flush if plants show issues...You can always amend the soil latter when they calm down.
FFOF
domolite lime
added seabird guano....
yep a little hot for young plants. i usually reuse soil and amend it with domolite and seabird gauno (1/2 flushed soil and 1/2 ffof). yes you sure can and should flush if plants show issues...You can always amend the soil latter when they calm down.
PlantManBee
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sheeet, if that is really in super soil it's gotta be lockout this early, UNLESS your pot size is too small to support the entire grow. if that is the case it's a N deficency plain and simple. If you have big enough containers i'd follow wet's advise about dolomitic lime to fix the pH problem.
First let me say, the plants HAVE been flushed.. after about 265 gallons of water & 6 hours. LOL. Let me give you guys a lil more info. Dolomite is in the recipe for Super Soil and is in our soil as well. Our Ph has been between 6 and 6.5 for the entire grow. Plants are in 4 gallon, or more. buckets. The bat guano we got is watered in every four weeks. The only humic acid we could find is a water-in type, which is also every four weeks. We also are using a bloom booster, 0-10-10, that says to use in combination with your normal nutrients. When deficiency symptoms first showed, we fed with a little fish emulsion. We have a Shiva Skunk, a lil smaller, that went on flower 22 days before the rest. She shows no signs of problem and has been grown exactly like the rest. We'll post a pic of her in a little bit. Thanks for all the help thus far.
I mix my own and also re use. Mine is similar also, but nowhere near as hot as ss. Wish I could find the seabird guano locally, but no joy and I won't pay to have shit shipped. LOL
We are for sure on the same page as far as the dolomite lime and I think that's what the OP left out of the mix.
I still don't agree with flushing organic mixes, but you just may have a point.
Wouldn't hurt in any event.
Wet
Relaxed
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think we might be finding the issue "We also are using a bloom booster, 0-10-10, that says to use in combination with your normal nutrients." you have a nice hot soil already. Every company tries to sell you more sheet to put in and we keep adding till we kill em. Drop the bloom booster imo. i used some from Advanced Nutrients Co. bloom booster a while back and it killed all the fan leaves every time no matter how little I used. Weather it causes nut lock or overnutng....Do a check on your ph meter to make sure it is calibrated right. you know you can buy nuts. for house plants, potted outdoor plants and even yard plants. I have potted herb (mint (mojitos), dill and tarragon) that organic nuts. seabird is perfect for edible herbs. Go to ebay and look up sunleaves seabird guano. $15 about and your all set...Don't buy any more nuts....
Then, I am at a loss, but I'd listen to what Relaxed has to say, especially about the BB. Super Soil has a lot of P in there from the git.
Wet
so the yellowing and dead tips are from overfeeding? i was starting to think that it was a lock out but wouldnt the smaller shiva have been effected too? if its overfeeding due to the booster and the smaller shiva can handle higher nutes shouldnt the bigger shivas (especially same pheno) be doing fine as well? first plants to show signs were the tallest, they are fd g-force. the reason i am so concerned with identifying the specific problem is we have seven different varieties going and not all show the same signs. 3 gh white widow, 7 bf violator kush, 9 sensi shiva skunk, 2 fd g-force, 1 dna l.a. woman, and 1 dna sharksbreath. none look any worse today and the flush has definitely seemed to help. thank you relaxed for the suggestion. i came home from work and did it immediately. i knew either way flushing wouldnt be a bad thing and would help with salt build ups etc. im not exactly new to growing but have never used this recipe and wasnt sure if some of these amendments could be depleted before the end of the plants life cycle or not. i'll lay off the booster and get some pics posted when they start looking better. thanks to everyone for there replies and if anyone else has any thoughts feel free to reply.
thnks-ali
btw... what do you guys think of the little shiva?
thnks-ali
btw... what do you guys think of the little shiva?