Deficiency of some sort can not work it no matter what I do.

Broeut

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Hey.
I've read everything you guys have to offer on newbie central but I just can figure it out I've taken to much info on. I though it was cal mag but nothing has changed.

Ph in feed is fine I'm doing half newts.
Medium is coco perlite.

Any help greatly appreciated.
 

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LEDandCoffee

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How old is your plant? How big is that pot? How often/how much are you watering? What is your feed pH?

This is your problem. When coco is dry salts build up and throw your pH all over the place.
 

Broeut

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Plant is 32 days.
I ph my water to 6.3 to 6.5. Pot is 3 gallon

Currently just watering once it's dry am inch down.
Should I flush the medium then?
 

LEDandCoffee

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Plant is 32 days.
I ph my water to 6.3 to 6.5. Pot is 3 gallon

Currently just watering once it's dry am inch down.
Should I flush the medium then?
What nutes are you using? @ 32 days you can go full blast on them. She's hungry.

pH to 5.8 in coco.

The cardinal rule of coco is don't let it dry out! If the top inch is dry it's too dry, you're causing all sorts of issues. Coco needs to be watered daily, ideally even twice a day. I have my system watering 6x a day in one gallon pots right now and will likely increase.

What you need to do: flush the shit out of that thing with full nutrients @ 5.8 pH. And from there on -- keep it wet. You realistically cannot over water coco. Water until runoff every single time.
 

Blitz35

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Your ph is far too high for coco, so feeding ph as you say, is not fine! Not to mention, coco should not be looking bone dry like that! With that being said, from that 1 pic, one leaf basically, its hard to see anything really. Did you rinse the coco before planting into it? Did you buffer the coco as well?
 

Broeut

Member
i didnt buffer my coco first as i didnt know i should have done that, ive flushed the shit out of it now.
thank you for your advice guys really appreciate it alot. i was told to ph to 6.5 in coco. not 5.8 so i miles off where i need to be.
is the only way to check my ph of the coco through checking run off?
 

xtsho

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i didnt buffer my coco first as i didnt know i should have done that, ive flushed the shit out of it now.
thank you for your advice guys really appreciate it alot. i was told to ph to 6.5 in coco. not 5.8 so i miles off where i need to be.
is the only way to check my ph of the coco through checking run off?
I wouldn't worry about the runoff. Worry about what you're putting in.
 

Blitz35

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i didnt buffer my coco first as i didnt know i should have done that, ive flushed the shit out of it now.
thank you for your advice guys really appreciate it alot. i was told to ph to 6.5 in coco. not 5.8 so i miles off where i need to be.
is the only way to check my ph of the coco through checking run off?
6.5 is borderline high in real soil, in coco, its out of range for optimal growth. Rinsing coco will get rid of some sodium build up, but without buffering, the cec sites will not be 'cleaned' by just watering. Water on it's own will not unbind potentially 'harmful' elements from cec sites. I have never grown in pure coco, but have read that it should be buffered so all cec sites have proper calcium magnesium and potassium..the 3 elements that coco has a tendency to hang onto a little harder than other mediums.
 

Tim1987

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Hey.
I've read everything you guys have to offer on newbie central but I just can figure it out I've taken to much info on. I though it was cal mag but nothing has changed.

Ph in feed is fine I'm doing half newts.
Medium is coco perlite.

Any help greatly appreciated.
In all honesty dude i think you have lockout vs deficiency. You fan leaves look very "hot" by the extremely faded, dry, crispy, bubbly look.
I think checking runoff ph is so important. I used to have a nightmare chasing my tail with coco until i did several grows ago.
Worry about your ec last. If what you are putting in ec's, is coming out less in the runoff, then your plants are feeding.
Only after ive ruled out ph and lockout through the runoff.
In my experience lockouts show up almost overnight. Deficiencies really show slowly. Usually first thing is a very slow fade of chlorophyll. If this is the case, you probably need to feed.
I do think you are locked up. Probably with many things, not only 1 or 2.
If it was me id give a good drink of ph'd water. No nutes until you start seeing improvement.
I hope somebody helps resolve you issue, or you figure things out on your own.
Peace
 
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