Mr Neutron
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So... you don't even follow your own advice?
Debt ceiling lifted 900 more billion.
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BendBrewer
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At least Neutron is honest about it. He doesn't want to have to pay for anything. He is very upfront that he wishes America was mired in 1910 lifestyle. This isn't the first time he has made that abundantly clear. I can respect your desire to not pay for anything that this country provides you but I have to disagree at the same time. I understand that as a member of this society I am asked to contribute to society in a fair way. Fact is my taxes have done nothing but go down over the last 10 years. And I constantly hear people complain about it. It's getting kinda old.
At least you liked that Gilmour solo. Sick shit huh?
At least you liked that Gilmour solo. Sick shit huh?
mame
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What? I've got great credit despite my young age because I'm such a responsible borrower, I dont know what you think I said but I have no problems with my spending/borrowing practices.
UncleBuck
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i couldn't find any pictures of people dying due to treatable illnesses, grandma's eating cat food, or any of the other ways that were less than reassuring of a picture of domestic tranquility and general welfare of our citizenry, but a history buff like yourself surely knows about these things.
ink the world
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I dont, however MOST people do. ....our economy is built on credit, people getting shit they cant afford. ....almost laughable that people are shocked by us having $ problems.....where was the bitching and worry when we BORROWED $ to fund 2 wars, senior drug plan and tax breaks years ago?
MuyLocoNC
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i couldn't find any pictures of people dying due to treatable illnesses, grandma's eating cat food, or any of the other ways that were less than reassuring of a picture of domestic tranquility and general welfare of our citizenry, but a history buff like yourself surely knows about these things.
What is laughable is that you attribute our rise from our meager beginnings to the government, not the spirit of the American people and capitalism. Show some more photos of the Great Depression, which as EVERYONE that doesn't have their faces in a revisionist history book knows, was brought about by the very shit you guys are advocating today.
Intelligent men have fought against progressive social engineering for the last 80+ years, all the time forcasting EXACTLY what is coming about. If you start taxing people over $75k a year at rates of 75% as well as all the state taxes and imbedded taxes, you might be able to squeeze in a few more decades of this garbage. It's a ponzi scheme of the highest order and it will crumble.
UncleBuck
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more predictions of impending doom!
maybe i should just start a thread: "predict impending doom here". that one would have 500 chicken littles making 10,000 comments and the rest of the board would contain next to nothing besides a heaping of "i want to suck ron paul's old smegma-ridden cock" threads.
MuyLocoNC
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That's great except there is no such thing as tax breaks. For there to be a tax break, there would have to be a baseline number to begin with. Since that number is actually ZERO, how can going from say 38% to 32% be considered a break, especially when around 50% of the working population still pays ZERO? Hmmm... oh that's right, it's not really their money, its the government's money. They're just holding on to it for them, they didn't earn it or anything. Flat tax rate for ALL working Americans of around 15%, no loopholes, no deductions...we'll have more revenue than we would ever get by taxing the wealthy at 100%. You see, most of their money isn't income...it's already accumulated. Unless you're advocating the "taking" of all their assets?
BendBrewer
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Spoiled little children that don't think they should have to pay for anything. It's frustrating to share a society with these selfish and greedy individuals.
Just tax the rich at Clinton's rates. Everyone was happy then and we were on track to paying our debts. Then Bush came along and everything just got fucked. It's simple. Undo what Bush did to cause this mess.
If you think Bush's economic policies were good, then stand up and say so out loud. If not, let's start fixing the mistakes he made. Where is the $5.6 Trillion Surplus Bush projected when he gave the cuts in the first place? No surplus. No justification for the cuts. Simple enough for you?
Just tax the rich at Clinton's rates. Everyone was happy then and we were on track to paying our debts. Then Bush came along and everything just got fucked. It's simple. Undo what Bush did to cause this mess.
If you think Bush's economic policies were good, then stand up and say so out loud. If not, let's start fixing the mistakes he made. Where is the $5.6 Trillion Surplus Bush projected when he gave the cuts in the first place? No surplus. No justification for the cuts. Simple enough for you?
MJstudent
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sometimes im happy im from canada, but then i realize were in the same boat jkust with a smaller number, god damn gunna be pissed when it hits us hard already no one can get jobs im scared watching my future happen to you guys now. i wish you all luck.
happy days my friends, happy days.
happy days my friends, happy days.
Mr Neutron
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WHERE did I EVER say that?
As far as how the country is run, close, actually I would have preferred the last quarter of the 18th century. I would have loved to be around when the idea of independence was being forged. Also, the individual independence appeals to me very much. Yeah, there were problems then, just as there are today but people were more of a mind to take care of themselves and their neighbor, if need be, without King George telling them that they HAD to do this or that.
What things? Do you mean things like the immoral confiscation of private property? Or the invasion of multiple foreign countries and the deaths of millions of people, for no good reason? Or maybe the theft or our nation's wealth through inflation? Or perhaps the bailing out of corrupt and evil banksters, worldwide? Maybe you mean the huge dump they are taking on our Bill of Rights? You probably mean the billions of dollars we send to the worst terrorist nation in the world, Israel? Oh, I know, it is all the guns we let walk down here to Mexico or maybe the military grade weapons the government sold DIRECTLY to the cartels? Could it be the militarization of our police departments? Or the training of the military to quell domestic protests? It has got to be the insane War on Drugs?
Shall I continue?
But you are not asked. Even though the IRS says compliance is voluntary, you are not asked to help out, that is so disingenuous. We are FORCED to pay what they say is fair. "A fair way"? If YOU think it is fair then you contribute all you want but don't ask me to give up what I have for foreign aid, illegal wars, prohibition, corrupt banksters and turning the government into a bloated pig of graft and hand-outs. Fair, yeah right. Now I'll turn this around on you... (taking on the approach of BedBrewer and londonfog) So you think it is fair that you have to pay "X" amount of taxes but yet corporations like GE and Exxon/Mobil not only don't pay any taxes but get a huge amount of money from the IRS? Your sense of fairness is warped.
LOL, yeah, David is the MAN, imo.
ink the world
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Uhmm 38-32 is 6 correct?
That would constitute a break would it not?
To be clear I am referring to the Bush tax cuts that werent paid for.