GimmieThe Loot
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The ladies are getting vertical growth... we are almost at the two month mark.. they were advertised for a 60 day finish.. will switch to bloom next feeding.
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Logan Burke
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Breeder's timelines for autoflowering strains seem to be even more off than photoperiod strain's timelines. I just had an auto go almost 8 weeks over what the breeder's time line was lol. Your plants look great, are they soil plants or coco/hydro?
Thundercat
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That 60 day finish might happen but it is definitely from the formation of flowers, not from seed no matter what the advertiser said. Flowering doesn't start until the plants are forming flowers, so I wouldn't switch your nutes until then either.
GimmieThe Loot
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They are soil HF at the top and OF at the bottom wit perlite mix
GimmieThe Loot
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They're showing pistols... preflowers are popping up everywhere... these are 00seeds bubblegum
GimmieThe Loot
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So should I switch as soon as I see preflowers?
Zogs
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Can you get a closer pic, I'm pretty old and blind. I tried zooming in and I don't see anything telling me that's it's going into flower. Are you sure you are seeing preflowers and not just the plant showing it's sex ? Either way, prepare for these plants to be massive because they aren't done their stretch or they haven't started.
And 4 separate auto flowers not in full on flower by day 60 is a bit crazy. They would have to be the worst auto's ever and you may as well be doing photo periods.
And 4 separate auto flowers not in full on flower by day 60 is a bit crazy. They would have to be the worst auto's ever and you may as well be doing photo periods.
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Thundercat
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I wouldn't switch until you have actual flowers forming.
I havn't ran many autos, but I agree it seems surprising they havn't started flowering.
Logan Burke
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If you're happy with the size and vegetation of your auto, then go ahead and switch to bloom nutes. If you'd rather it keep growing more foliage for a little longer, keep with grow nutes. While you can't determine when your auto decides to truely start blooming and stretching, you can 'influence' or 'encourage' faster onset of flowering by administering bloom nutes. Not saying you'll make a huge difference either way, an auto will flower when it wants. But in my experience, you can draw the vegetative stage out by a few days or maybe even longer by sticking with grow nutes.
Budzbuddha
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If you are really at 60 days in from germ then these are running more like regular seeds instead of a usual auto.
They seem to be sexing which can begin to show anyways once hitting sexual maturity. I would say get ready to flip them like a regular. Sometimes you have to force them.
Not sure of breeder / strain of yours or light schedule. But I would consider a 12/12 flip and keep veg nute going until stretch and preflower set has slowed or stopped. Then begin bloom Nutes. They will stretch out and utilize the nitro for branching and structure.
Forget the breeder timeline as these did not follow typical ( week 5 ish ) type of transition.
So be aware that those plants will at least double in size .... you can start to implement LST and / or some discrete leaf pruning / tucking .
They seem to be sexing which can begin to show anyways once hitting sexual maturity. I would say get ready to flip them like a regular. Sometimes you have to force them.
Not sure of breeder / strain of yours or light schedule. But I would consider a 12/12 flip and keep veg nute going until stretch and preflower set has slowed or stopped. Then begin bloom Nutes. They will stretch out and utilize the nitro for branching and structure.
Forget the breeder timeline as these did not follow typical ( week 5 ish ) type of transition.
So be aware that those plants will at least double in size .... you can start to implement LST and / or some discrete leaf pruning / tucking .
Zogs
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I 100% agree with Budz's assessment and his nute schedule. I really think you should flip Gimme the loot.
In the future with auto's I suggest looking at Dinafem, Mephisto, and Dutch passion seeds. You wont go wrong with any of those breeders.
Logan Burke
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Yeah Budzbuddah knows his auto's lol. A question, somewhat on behalf of the OP and somewhat of my own curiosity, but once the OP flips to a 12/12 schedule, lets say they take off and start blooming in full force. Would it then be safe to transition back to an 18/6 schedule, or would you want to remain on that 12/12 for the remainder of the grow? As far as breeders go, I just yielded between 1/4th and 1/2 a pound off of a single Northern Lights Blue Auto plant under a single 315w CMH 
Her sister barely yielded an 36 grams dried and trimmed, and this one went almost over 6 weeks past her sister and continued packing on the weight...was amazing.
Her sister barely yielded an 36 grams dried and trimmed, and this one went almost over 6 weeks past her sister and continued packing on the weight...was amazing.
Zogs
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They aren't auto's at all Logan. They got mixed before they were shipped. They are photo period and need to be treated as such. It might be possible for an auto to go to 60 days without flowering, but not 4 of them. Unless, like I said earlier, they are the worst auto flowers ever.Yeah Budzbuddah knows his auto's lol. A question, somewhat on behalf of the OP and somewhat of my own curiosity, but once the OP flips to a 12/12 schedule, lets say they take off and start blooming in full force. Would it then be safe to transition back to an 18/6 schedule, or would you want to remain on that 12/12 for the remainder of the grow? As far as breeders go, I just yielded between 1/4th and 1/2 a pound off of a single Northern Lights Blue Auto plant under a single 315w CMH
Logan Burke
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As Budzbuddah said in his last post, it's plenty possible for auto's to get 'stuck' and need to be forced to bloom through a 12/12 schedule. It's just a rare occurence that you, unless you just have bad luck, don't see much.
MATTYMATT726
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Believe me or don't. I started 3 Gold Glue(autos from Mephisto) in Nov 1st and they just got harvested end of last to beginning of this month. They had ZERO preflowers pistils for close to 90 days. I believe due to colder temps maybe 60-62 during winter in NY and no heaters in the tent. I also had air domes pushing air to the roots so maybe that helped prolong veg. They were only in 2 gal of coco so not that huge pots to delay. 24/0 whole life and nutes were GH Cal/Mag, Micro and Bloom(no veg bottle) at 2/6/9 ml per gal. They just took forever.
GimmieThe Loot
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Guys they are showing preflowers so are we
Yea that's a long time right around dat 60 they started showing pre flowers... I think I'm looking at another 60 days or so
Budzbuddha
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Keep us posted
Zogs
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Does 4 plants doing the same thing seem rare ? Or does it seem far more likely the seed bank f'ed up ?