DAY 15 OF FLOWER AND THIS STARTS TO HAPPEN? PLEASE HELP...

SADGROWERIN RIO

SADGROWERIN RIO

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I grow Critical Mass in rockwool slabs-flood and drain system. (i do it manually twice a day)

I use Ph perfect nutes 3 part series. I was actually running a drain to waste system to try and ensure no problems this time and guess what they happened anyway. the ec was always 1.6-1.8 in veg trickling up..I then continued the same feed until day 10 when clear pistils start to show. At which time i switched to maxi bloom but maintained the same EC. Im on day 15 now ans still at 1.9.

Temps are ideal throughout 75 with light on 68 with them off.

Ph is always 5.8-6.2. Below are the pics.

The small plants are on day 1 of flowering -nice and green and pretty much no problem. (Light green may be attributed to the first 12 hours of dark yesterday). The pics were taken seconds apart from each other.

The bigger plants that have the damage that started on day 12 of flowering are on day 15 of flowering. On day 10 as usual i switched to maxi bloom-Basically 1 teaspoon per gallon which leaves my ec at 1.8- 1.9.

My tap water has 0.14 of whatever already in it- I use a milwaukee EC pen that has never failed me. I also use a good ph pen. I am in Rio de Janeiro and dont have all the access to all the shit from back home. This ISNT my first rodeo either in fact im sad to say i have many years in the business but am now losing control of everything right around the 2nd week of flower. PLEASE SOMEONE HELP. IM THE SADDEST GROWER ON THE PLANET RIGHT NOW.


As a measure i began to add Cali magic only yesterday but I am unsure if thats the fix or not so im jumping the gun and asking for help. I have many more racks vegging they all look great the problem occurs in the 2nd week of flowering.20170505_235629.jpg 20170505_235653.jpg I 20170505_235704.jpg 20170505_235704.jpg I am set to lose a bundle if I cant fiure this out. Any help any ideas is greatly appreciated.20170505_235552.jpg 20170505_235552.jpg 20170505_235608.jpg
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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"The bigger plants that have the damage that started on day 12 of flowering are on day 15 of flowering. On day 10 as usual i switched to maxi bloom"

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try adding some grow nutrients for awhile for better results
 
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Samsonator

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SADGROWERIN RIO said:
I grow Critical Mass in rockwool slabs-flood and drain system. (i do it manually twice a day)

I use Ph perfect nutes 3 part series. I was actually running a drain to waste system to try and ensure no problems this time and guess what they happened anyway. the ec was always 1.6-1.8 in veg trickling up..I then continued the same feed until day 10 when clear pistils start to show. At which time i switched to maxi bloom but maintained the same EC. Im on day 15 now ans still at 1.9.

Temps are ideal throughout 75 with light on 68 with them off.

Ph is always 5.8-6.2. Below are the pics.

The small plants are on day 1 of flowering -nice and green and pretty much no problem. (Light green may be attributed to the first 12 hours of dark yesterday). The pics were taken seconds apart from each other.

The bigger plants that have the damage that started on day 12 of flowering are on day 15 of flowering. On day 10 as usual i switched to maxi bloom-Basically 1 teaspoon per gallon which leaves my ec at 1.8- 1.9.

My tap water has 0.14 of whatever already in it- I use a milwaukee EC pen that has never failed me. I also use a good ph pen. I am in Rio de Janeiro and dont have all the access to all the shit from back home. This ISNT my first rodeo either in fact im sad to say i have many years in the business but am now losing control of everything right around the 2nd week of flower. PLEASE SOMEONE HELP. IM THE SADDEST GROWER ON THE PLANET RIGHT NOW.


As a measure i began to add Cali magic only yesterday but I am unsure if thats the fix or not so im jumping the gun and asking for help. I have many more racks vegging they all look great the problem occurs in the 2nd week of flowering.View attachment 3937267 View attachment 3937268 I View attachment 3937270 View attachment 3937270 I am set to lose a bundle if I cant fiure this out. Any help any ideas is greatly appreciated.View attachment 3937265 View attachment 3937265 View attachment 3937266
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Just looks like a potassium deficiency to me.
 
SADGROWERIN RIO

SADGROWERIN RIO

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Ok thank you all for the responses. Im gonna do everything until I figure it out. I have a bunch of racks in veg. Dont want to run into more problems.

So im gonna flush one rack and go with water only, add some grow nutrients to one rack to see if that fixes it. but im weary on fixing a pottasium deficiency.

What does anyone reccomend to fix a pottasium deficiency? Im on day 16 now how long should i wait before i re assess the racks?

Thanks everyone in advance- I have a huge setup here in Brasil and like i said im set to lose alot if i cant stop the bleeding!! below is a better pic of whats happening.

THANKS AGAIN GUYS
 

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*BUDS

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Nute burn or light burn. Also why dont you get res and pump so you dont have to do it manually?
 
SADGROWERIN RIO

SADGROWERIN RIO

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I do have pumps but because each rack is seperate i can then feed each one different shit at different rates until i nail down a 50 day flower with no issues at all--havent got there yet...but when i do i will def.hook up the pump and timer and never do it manually again..but only when i can feed everyone the same water ---then i can connect it all and sit on my ass and watch

also do you think it could be pottasium deficiency?
 
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nmibud

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Mine were doing this too,it was light burn from the leds.I added dimmers and have turned them down a bit.
 
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Samsonator

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SADGROWERIN RIO said:
Ok thank you all for the responses. Im gonna do everything until I figure it out. I have a bunch of racks in veg. Dont want to run into more problems.

So im gonna flush one rack and go with water only, add some grow nutrients to one rack to see if that fixes it. but im weary on fixing a pottasium deficiency.

What does anyone reccomend to fix a pottasium deficiency? Im on day 16 now how long should i wait before i re assess the racks?

Thanks everyone in advance- I have a huge setup here in Brasil and like i said im set to lose alot if i cant stop the bleeding!! below is a better pic of whats happening.

THANKS AGAIN GUYS
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Doesn't look like a light burn at all to me, usually top growth is effected most. Keep us posted.
 
Don't Bogart

Don't Bogart

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*BUDS said:
Also why dont you get res and pump so you dont have to do it manually?
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You should get something to control the ebb and flow.
My guess is mag deficiency. Calcium, Magnesium, Potassium all fight for the same doorway into the plant.
If I'm right ,which my wife says I never am, a little Epsom salts should stop it. The yellowing is permanent though on those leaves. You just want to stop it from spreading.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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i'm leaning towards nute burn myself. not N, but just general over feeding. i'd say just water the next couple of feedings and then half to two thirds what you're using now
 
SADGROWERIN RIO

SADGROWERIN RIO

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Thanks everyone for your time I will keep everyone posted throughout this grow..Im on day 17 of 50 in flowering---The consensus seems to be 1 of 3 things, as i have posted this on forums all over the place, even in different languages.

1. Lights too intense--so I raised them.

2.Nute burn- so i flushed one of the racks (the one you see here) with plain water and am gonna wait 3 days to re assess.

3. Straight up pottasium def. So on another rack that had the same damage I foliar fed with something that has a bit more.


Also some growers from italy reccomended simply adding some more grow nutrients---being that I switched over on day 10 to straight maxi bloom i might of robbed them of something they need SO im doing all of that and on seperate racks I will def. keep people posted..Far too many effin threads with no follow ups...so how are we supposed to learn what worked and what didnt...not here though I will post daily...with new pics every 5- 7 days..

THANKS AGAIN TO ALL WHO TOOK THIER TIM TO RESPOND AND IN ADVANCE THANKS TO OTHERS FOR THIER INPUT AS WELL.
 
SADGROWERIN RIO

SADGROWERIN RIO

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SO AS SAD AS IT MAY SOUND WE WERE ALL WRONG AND WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THESE PLANTS IS THE WORST NEWS POSSIBLE...THE DREADED RUSSET/BROAD MITES GOT ME AND I HAD TO SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING AND START FROM ZERO....NO PICS NEEDED OF THE DISASTER....THANKS AGAIN GUYS!!

ps i dont have pics but im 1000% sure of what it was after getting a decent microscope. fuckin scary shit by the time it looks like nute lockout or overatering OR heat damage....its already too late....i had to burn 100% of everything live in a bonfire....while chugging a liter of whiskey of course...figured fuck it why not,,
 
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