Dam Bill Clinton Is A Smooth Talker

canndo

canndo

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FlyLikeAnEagle said:
One of the best speeches I've seen Clinton make, 45 minutes of pointing out all the lies of the republican party. :lol:
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Throught the entire speech I was praying - actually stating "damn, I hope the figures he is spouting pass fact check muster" Got that Beenthere? fact checking is important - especially if you are accusing someone else of lying.

Cliinton pushed the edges of truth and had you take presumptive leaps but he did not make a single Ryan like lie.
 
mr2shim

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Fact checking is stupid. Who needs to tell the truth when you can lie through your teeth to get idiots to vote for you? pffft... lies are facts, say them enough idiots are bound to believe it BOOM! FACT..
 
FlyLikeAnEagle

FlyLikeAnEagle

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The Robme camps response to Clinton.........


[video=youtube;-21wrrmpxzE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-21wrrmpxzE&feature=player_embedded[/video]
 
canndo

canndo

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FlyLikeAnEagle said:
The Robme camps response to Clinton.........


[video=youtube;-21wrrmpxzE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-21wrrmpxzE&feature=player_embedded[/video]
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Wonderful, now let's trot out the Republican primary and see were that takes us.


oh, and where are those tax returns?
 
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beenthere

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canndo said:
And Beenthere? he cut taxes on lower income families but raised them on the top 12 percent - and lo and it worked anyway.
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Well that just shows your lack to grasp history and economics.
Raising marginal rates on the wealthy does nothing but grow government and has no affect on the growth of the economy, in fact it has an adverse effect.

In his second term, Bill Clinton lowered taxes on businesses and investments (the wealthy) it was only then that tax revenues soared. You can deny this all you want but you can't rewrite history my friend.
 
canndo

canndo

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beenthere said:
Well that just shows your lack to grasp history and economics.
Raising marginal rates on the wealthy does nothing but grow government and has no affect on the growth of the economy, in fact it has an adverse effect.

In his second term, Bill Clinton lowered taxes on businesses and investments (the wealthy) it was only then that tax revenues soared. You can deny this all you want but you can't rewrite history my friend.
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so he raised taxes on that 12 percent and then lowered them?

Looking for a goldilocks tax burden was he?

How bout you show me what he did and how it affected the economy? (Even though he did well by us, he also presided over a wonderful and ultimately burst tech bubble - he can't claim his policies were the end all and be all of the Clinton economy)
 
canndo

canndo

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Oh don't tell me Beenthere - you got your info from........ The Heritage Foundation, now didn't you.
 
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beenthere

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canndo said:
Oh don't tell me Beenthere - you got your info from........ The Heritage Foundation, now didn't you.
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I found some info in one of the progressive's favorite websites, Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clintonomics
"According to American political scientist Jack Godwin, Clintonomics was more than a set of economic, fiscal and monetary policies. It was a governing philosophy with political and economic elements, which routinely appropriated nominally “Republican” and “Democratic” ideas. In general, Clinton’s approach entailed modernizing the federal government, making it more entrepreneurial, and distributing more authority to state and local governments. This meant making the government smaller, more flexible, less wasteful, and better suited for the global era.[SUP][1][/SUP]



The strategy was outlined in the following four points:

Clinton signed the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 into law. This act created a 36 percent to 39.6 income tax for high-income individuals in the top 1.2% of wage earners. Businesses were given an income tax rate of 35%. The cap was repealed on Medicare. The taxes were raised 4.3 cents per gallon on transportation fuels and the taxable portion of Social Security benefits were increased. The Taxpayer Relief Act (1997) reduced some federal taxes. Due to certain phase-in rules, the rate 28% was lowered to 20% in the top capital gains.


If you didn't know who bill Clinton was, you'd swear he was a fiscal conservative!
Your turn Mr. Denier!
 
canndo

canndo

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Krayven Sumhead said:
This is rather interesting.


It concerns the new advert put out by The Repulican Party, acussing it of being dishonest.

Hard to believe, I know. Damn fact checkers!

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/rnc-staffer-plays-obama-supporter-in-gop-ad.php
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Where did it say she was a Dem? What I find funny is the fact that one guy talks to an empty chair as though it were Obama and this woman talks to a cardboard cut out of Obma - What's up with their inability to represent Obama as a real person?
 
canndo

canndo

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beenthere said:
I found some info in one of the progressive's favorite websites, Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clintonomics
"According to American political scientist Jack Godwin, Clintonomics was more than a set of economic, fiscal and monetary policies. It was a governing philosophy with political and economic elements, which routinely appropriated nominally “Republican” and “Democratic” ideas. In general, Clinton’s approach entailed modernizing the federal government, making it more entrepreneurial, and distributing more authority to state and local governments. This meant making the government smaller, more flexible, less wasteful, and better suited for the global era.[SUP][1][/SUP]


[SUP]Thanks Beenthere, that is what I asked for - and you presume, even with what was said about an attitude in the Whitehouse that it really was only the 8 percent that spurred the economy?[/SUP]



The strategy was outlined in the following four points:

Clinton signed the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 into law. This act created a 36 percent to 39.6 income tax for high-income individuals in the top 1.2% of wage earners. Businesses were given an income tax rate of 35%. The cap was repealed on Medicare. The taxes were raised 4.3 cents per gallon on transportation fuels and the taxable portion of Social Security benefits were increased. The Taxpayer Relief Act (1997) reduced some federal taxes. Due to certain phase-in rules, the rate 28% was lowered to 20% in the top capital gains.


If you didn't know who bill Clinton was, you'd swear he was a fiscal conservative!
Your turn Mr. Denier!
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[SUP]Thanks Beenthere, that is what I asked for - and you presume, even with what was said about an attitude in the Whitehouse that it really was only the 8 percent that spurred the economy?

What was the previous business tax rate?
[/SUP]

 
BadDog40

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beenthere said:
I found some info in one of the progressive's favorite websites, Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clintonomics
"According to American political scientist Jack Godwin, Clintonomics was more than a set of economic, fiscal and monetary policies. It was a governing philosophy with political and economic elements, which routinely appropriated nominally “Republican” and “Democratic” ideas. In general, Clinton’s approach entailed modernizing the federal government, making it more entrepreneurial, and distributing more authority to state and local governments. This meant making the government smaller, more flexible, less wasteful, and better suited for the global era.[SUP][1][/SUP]



The strategy was outlined in the following four points:

Clinton signed the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 into law. This act created a 36 percent to 39.6 income tax for high-income individuals in the top 1.2% of wage earners. Businesses were given an income tax rate of 35%. The cap was repealed on Medicare. The taxes were raised 4.3 cents per gallon on transportation fuels and the taxable portion of Social Security benefits were increased. The Taxpayer Relief Act (1997) reduced some federal taxes. Due to certain phase-in rules, the rate 28% was lowered to 20% in the top capital gains.


If you didn't know who bill Clinton was, you'd swear he was a fiscal conservative!
Your turn Mr. Denier!
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What you failed to mention is the Taxpayers Relief Act was phased in and didn't come into full effect until 2006. Had nothing to do with the economy we had in the 90's.
 
rollinbud

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RyanTheRhino said:
Bet he could talk his way out of a sex scandal and still have respect..... oh wait he did that already. :lol: Dont always agree with him, but no doubt he can talk his ass off.
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Lol, but he couldn;t talk his way out of being a proven liar... How anyone could believe anything this scum bag says is beyond me.
 
UncleBuck

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rollinbud said:
Lol, but he couldn;t talk his way out of being a proven liar... How anyone could believe anything this scum bag says is beyond me.
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actually, he did talk his way out of that, even defining "is".

and unlike your saviors romney and ryan, he did not tell 1,743 outright lies during his speech. :lol:

go spam some more elsewhere, angry texan guy.
 
BadDog40

BadDog40

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rollinbud said:
Lol, but he couldn;t talk his way out of being a proven liar... How anyone could believe anything this scum bag says is beyond me.
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Bill Clinton, the best President this country has ever known, currently has an approval rating of 69%.

Where was Bush in Tampa btw?
 
desert dude

desert dude

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Carne Seca said:
Hell, I would give him a Monica Lewinski. I would make sure to wash my clothes though. Who the hell hangs cum stained clothing BACK in their closet without washing them?
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A Democrat, obviously!

Sorry, but with that setup how could I resist. :-)
 
desert dude

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I did not watch Slick Willy's speech, but every news story I read about it says basically the same thing: "it was interminable", "shut the fuck up already", "Bill loves the sound of his own voice", et cetera.
 
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