DaGambler's 4k HPS 99 Plant Hempy Grow

danksmoker77 said:

hey man, good to see everything came out great. I was nerv..... nevermind no need to bring in the negetivity ya dig. Ill definitely be watching the next round also.

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thanks man. the clones were making me nervous toward the end... flouro's just don't cut it for 9 weeks of growth.

and i'll continue to be a bit nervous till the new gear arrives. an HPS for the clone/veg room ... and another HPS system just for back-up.

i'm anxious to flower them at a shorter height this time around. last time i waited until they were from 14" to 19" inches tall. I'ma try to take all of my clones next weekend and flip the switch. but first i want to line the clone shelving with plastic and make it "drain-to-waste" so that i can get good and sloppy with my watering... and flush them if needed.

thanks for staying tuned i'll try to keep it interesting. personally, i'm hoping to see if i can pull the same weight per plant (1 oz. average) even when flowering at a shorter height. I'm also hoping that by flowering sooner i will have to lollipop and prune fan leaves less. I'll have to check back into what the average yield was on those containers that had two plants each the last round, but i'm sure it was over 1 oz total per container... so i hope to maintain that trend as well.
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DaGambler said:

thanks man. the clones were making me nervous toward the end... flouro's just don't cut it for 9 weeks of growth.

and i'll continue to be a bit nervous till the new gear arrives. an HPS for the clone/veg room ... and another HPS system just for back-up.

i'm anxious to flower them at a shorter height this time around. last time i waited until they were from 14" to 19" inches tall. I'ma try to take all of my clones next weekend and flip the switch. but first i want to line the clone shelving with plastic and make it "drain-to-waste" so that i can get good and sloppy with my watering... and flush them if needed.

thanks for staying tuned i'll try to keep it interesting. personally, i'm hoping to see if i can pull the same weight per plant (1 oz. average) even when flowering at a shorter height. I'm also hoping that by flowering sooner i will have to lollipop and prune fan leaves less. I'll have to check back into what the average yield was on those containers that had two plants each the last round, but i'm sure it was over 1 oz total per container... so i hope to maintain that trend as well.
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yea bak up never hurt.lookin great DG. yea i flower at 4inches avg. usually finish two and a haf ft avg.you sure gotta lot goin on.lucky you. i'm not occupied enuff,lol.everything lookin healthy bro. i jus started flowerin my BC today as a matter of .fact. i changed my mind on my B.skunk this time went a head and and doin 2-pacs Dutch passion BB and 4 sensi hashplat seeds.. Hope i get a good fem. ratio.grow on bro.

raiderman said:

yea bak up never hurt.lookin great DG. yea i flower at 4inches avg. usually finish two and a haf ft avg.you sure gotta lot goin on.lucky you. i'm not occupied enuff,lol.everything lookin healthy bro. i jus started flowerin my BC today as a matter of .fact. i changed my mind on my B.skunk this time went a head and and doin 2-pacs Dutch passion BB and 4 sensi hashplat seeds.. Hope i get a good fem. ratio.grow on bro.

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I'd love to try a whole bunch of different strains. Mail, however, i'm not too fond of.

I did reap about 200 seeds total (Mr. Nice x White Russian) from two different W.R. buds that i seeded. And another 200 seeds from a Mr. Nice x Mr. Nice bud/branch. And (the) guy down the line as passed back a Durban Poison x Mr. Nice (just a couple) and a White Widow x Mr. Nice (just a couple). In theory the Durban Poison x Mr. Nice might be the best (accidental) breeding ... as it would be a pure sativa x a pure indica crossed.

Man, them seed dealers got it made man. I only seeded one large bud on one branch of 3 different plants and got around 3-400 viable seeds. If you seeded an entire plant out... and these guys are selling some seeds for 20 bucks a piece. Harvesting seed is a pain in the ass, but i'd do it all day long for 20 bucks a seed !!!
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DaGambler said:

I'd love to try a whole bunch of different strains. Mail, however, i'm not too fond of.

I did reap about 200 seeds total (Mr. Nice x White Russian) from two different W.R. buds that i seeded. And another 200 seeds from a Mr. Nice x Mr. Nice bud/branch. And (the) guy down the line as passed back a Durban Poison x Mr. Nice (just a couple) and a White Widow x Mr. Nice (just a couple). In theory the Durban Poison x Mr. Nice might be the best (accidental) breeding ... as it would be a pure sativa x a pure indica crossed.

Man, them seed dealers got it made man. I only seeded one large bud on one branch of 3 different plants and got around 3-400 viable seeds. If you seeded an entire plant out... and these guys are selling some seeds for 20 bucks a piece. Harvesting seed is a pain in the ass, but i'd do it all day long for 20 bucks a seed !!!
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i know bro, i'm sure they love me.lol. yea if the f---ers dont crack total loss.i had a pac a blak label BB with these 2 pacs of DP BB.the DP BB broke ground all 20 in 2days . one black label BB broke ground in 5 days,lol.80. buks ,shot..but i'll make it back,,chek out at breedbay . theres a breeder there that produces his own stuff and sells pacs here and there. you can settup your own and sell like ebay,crazy huh.but anyway this dude got purple kush, purple moonshine . name is Bodhi seeds. look it up.got some crazy stuff there.

some of my best plants from seeds didn't pop for up to 2 weeks Purple Kush seeds??? PK is supposed to be a clone only strain.... I have tried a few different pollenating techniques on it with no success, same as a breeder buddy of mine...... Purple Kush seeds....... very interested to see them.....

theloadeddragon said:

some of my best plants from seeds didn't pop for up to 2 weeks Purple Kush seeds??? PK is supposed to be a clone only strain.... I have tried a few different pollenating techniques on it with no success, same as a breeder buddy of mine...... Purple Kush seeds....... very interested to see them.....

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he's out of seeds now but will have some soon.. i'll know wen he does,i'm registeres to buy from him as soon as it comes.

Gambler def impressive setup. i prused so i wont be stingy +++

I have done much research on the purple kush strain. Mine came from the SR-71 coffee shop in Oak while while back. Hermied purple kush seeds? Thats the only way I know of having pure purple kush seeds.....

The room looks super clean....

You think you insulated duct hold the heat in... Im about to change my ducting if it hold the heat in....does it hold it in good..

I just changed all my ducting to insulated through 8" suntubes. My test runs are looking superb. Thanks DaG for the tip.

BAYAREAMEDICAL said:

You think you insulated duct hold the heat in... Im about to change my ducting if it hold the heat in....does it hold it in good..

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i draw air from directly outside (basically) and push it right back outside again... so i would be sweating buckets off the ventilation ducting if it weren't insulated in the winter-time. (Think ice cold drink on a hot day.) But, yeah, it also helps to keep the heat moving along. I remember touching uninsulated ducting ... and how very hot it can be. So it's one less surface radiating heat. Better climate control is always a plus.
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Where do you guys get the insulated, hydro shop? When I got my ducting at lowes all they ahd was regular stuff.

Thundercat said:

Where do you guys get the insulated, hydro shop? When I got my ducting at lowes all they ahd was regular stuff.

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i saw it at HD when i bought the regular shit

I'll have to check that out next grow, I don't have a HD around here.

Order it online at htgsupply.com I bet they have it.

DG- using 1.25 gallon easter buckets for hempy n they have been needing watering everyday, to avoid burning I switch between adding nutes to just plain water every other day. I cant tell the difference between girls drinking the water and girls transpiration from dryness and heat. with FF nute's i follow their schedule just with the extra water here and there.

Do you ever top off the girlies with plain water, or do you adjust the schedule so they get less nutes everytime to avoid burning?

Do you think its an accurate reading to test your runoff for ppm or do you think salts build up at the bottom?

What does your ppm run around veg, switch to flower, and final flowerin ppm?

thanks bro n good luck this go round again
got skunk 1 and super lemon haze n your review got me lookin for a place to send some white russian beans to.

hey DG got a question for ya to elaborate on.... u mentioned earlier about attempting a single cola HEMPY grow, keepin the plants small and manicured, well i wanted to pick ur brains alil bout how u might go bout it with ur expertise and all. much respect and thanks for any help

dankmango said:

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"DG- using 1.25 gallon easter buckets for hempy n they have been needing watering everyday..."

you could always make the rez bigger on them... its just less room for the roots to grow, but you could get to every-other-day waterings at least. Is your overflow at least 2" from the bottom?

"to avoid burning I switch between adding nutes to just plain water every other day..."

I'm not really a fan of the 'feast or famine" method of feeding. i like to give them what they seem to need every single watering. And if you were using Hempy and only watering every three days... it would take a long time to make adjustments if you didn't.

"I cant tell the difference between girls drinking the water and girls transpiration from dryness and heat..."

yah, this is one of the biggest 'issues' i think with Hempy style grows in that Humidity may also become an issue.

"Do you ever top off the girlies with plain water..."

I flush with plain RO water for the last two weeks of growth and try to get them to go a bit 'lime' just before that by not fertilizing as much.

"Do you think its an accurate reading to test your runoff for ppm or do you think salts build up at the bottom?"

I think thats a great way to test what's really going on in the root zone, expecially if you suspect pH problems or nutrient buildup. I tend to stay on the 'safer' side of fertilization... and am too lazy to test runoff. I just make sure i know what i am putting in to begin with (both ppm and pH-wise).

"What does your ppm run around veg, switch to flower, and final flowerin ppm?"

Clones from 0-200 ppm. Later veg. growth 100-400 ppm. Later flower growth around 600-800 ppm. (I've spiked it as high as 2000 ppm to get some quick color.) I try to keep the pH between 5.3 and 6.3 when mixing up the 40 gal. rez. Preferrably 5.9 pH.

"...your review got me lookin for a place to send some white russian beans to."

i'm prone to migraine headaches... so i sometimes get one from smok'in this over any other weed. but it deffinitely kicks like a fugg'in mule, like none of the others. I don't doubt that it stays up around 20 percent THC or higher... which is in, i believe, the range of decent hash. thanks for stopping by, man.
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jtreezy420 said:

hey DG got a question for ya to elaborate on.... u mentioned earlier about attempting a single cola HEMPY grow, keepin the plants small and manicured, well i wanted to pick ur brains alil bout how u might go bout it...

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my experience is limited, brotha. all i got is a bit of experience and a bit more theory. in the past i have generally striven toward the 'sea of green' by filling the plants in 'shoulder to shoulder'. Of course, some plants grow more like christmas trees (pear shaped) while others grow more top heavy (apple shaped)... but generally pruning toward a more bush-like shape with multiple top colas. The flip-side of this is that you want to achieve some 'depth' to the canopy. You can do this by removing fan leaves like a banshee... or by not bushing them out so much to begin with, such that the light can better penetrate around the plants.

Another consideration is where you are going to pull the clones from. If a plant is already looking pretty bushy, then i'll pull a clone(s) from the side and/or bottom of the plant. If a plant is already tall and lanky then i'll pull the clone(s) from the top of the plant in order to make it fill in a bit. Ideally, i'd like to see 1-4 main colas... but you have to work with the reality of the plant at hand

It's also a bit of a numbers game, though. Check out SeeMoreBuds videos on YouTube and you will notice that, up to a certain extent, the more plants you have the faster they will be able to fill-in a sea-of-green. So turn-around time is also a factor in choosing to not veg. the plants to a larger size.

Only the Scale Of Time will tell, my friend, if i can find some other way to dial the room in, then i will attempt to do so. i'm not here for my health.
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