As an aside, this issue has been discussed often. You need to do a search BEFORE posting another lame "remove the fan leaves?" threads. For example, I discussed it here: https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/151706-uncle-bens-topping-technique-get-2.html
so ne ways one plant that i left with only 4 fan leaves and femmed and tied down after that has its little nubs turning up allready in jus ova 36 hrs. This is more like my take on what you can do. i never really asked for advice i asked if its been done and if so waht results.....alas i think ur topping and femming guides are steared towards getting yield appropriately and ergonamoically for the plant....And ive said again and again that i hope to have a lil weired out runt. alas none of the RIU users have come foward with such a pic so i will make one myself...im not hung up on yield or size or high....I jus like growing plants in general and manipulating nature to My Will......yeah go ahead and clip leaves in budding if there covering a substanial bud spot sheesh noob theres a thread for that....JK
Your a smart guy. Light definitely passes through leaves, and buds dont drive photosynthesis, but some people here would like to believe so. They can by all means remove/clip, mangle their fan leaves all they want, and they'll only get less yield, but if they think nature doesn't know what she's doing, then by all means go ahead and start stripping those leaves.
I appreciate sarcasism as opposed to down right shitty ness.....lol yeah buddie all the fan leaves....ne ways i think this will ultimately keep them small...like i said i got a perpetual short rider i aint messin wirh and there is 2 MORE IN the yard that are untouched....
And scrog has really nothing to do with cutting fan leaves. You trim the bottom to prevent other issues. The reason you get an increased yield with the tedious scrog method is because of training the plant. Guess what, you don't need a screen to train it.
You mean you shouldn't strip off all the leaves but the top two?
I have some old hippy type friends and she did the same thing, snipped off the "suckers". I asked her why, "cause someone said it increases yields." I asked her what produces the fruit, she answered, "leaves", I said, "then why are you removing them?" They are "alternative" types, homeopathic health medicine, tonics, anti-Round-Up, all kinds of wacked out thinking. Good folks other than needing to follow alternative cult type thinking. I let her pick tomatoes off my 7' tall, 5' wide plants....all she wants.
You simply don't understand the logic i've provided. Outside (where light intensity is extremely high) removing photosynthetic tissues is a surefire way to slow what would otherwise have been a bigger higher yielding plant (this we both agree on). INDOORS plants are usually competing with one another for light and that light is in many cases no where near as bright as the sun. the reason I brought up scrog is the idea of building a canopy around the light is the most efficient way to absorb it from that LIMITED light soruce. The logic behind this is you want as much photosynthetic tissue as close as possible to this light source. If allowed, not only will they spend energy stretching for the light, the lower shoots will produce undesirable "popcorn buds". Using ATP and nutrients the plant grows/literally builds itself. If removed the plant will no longer invest resources in shoots that werent going to do much anyway and focuses elsewhere.
Not true. You obviously haven't taken the measurements. The sun is not necessarily stronger than a HID. It depends on distance from the source to the leaf and other factors.
What measurements? Lumens? The colors the human eye sees best unfortunately enough is about the opposite what plants use to make food. Obviously at close proximity a vented 600W HPS is going to be more intense than the sun and with mylar the effect is compounded. However this is why Chose the word "many" as not everyone uses such powerful fixtures. Like I have said, if the source is intense enough than lollipoping is hurting yield. My point is only valid when there is limited light.
Points well taken. Recommend you read the Lollipopping thread if you haven't already.
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I also was one of the "MOFOS" cutting off fan leaves to "promote" budsites...LOL! Leaves are light catchers and I done plants side by side to see how they turned out. Those stripped off fan leaves to "promote" budsites tasted bit harsh, had lots of defeciencies and buds were smaller. Those "left alone", I tucked away only few large fan leaves, kept their green a lot longer in 12/12, only lil defs., A LOT better taste and potency. The large fan leaves are also good to leave for other reasons than to catch light, they take on most off the "heat" when getting burnt or deficient. When I have lollipopped plants due to too much stretch in 12/12 (I use 400W and it doesn't penetrate a 3 feet plant
) I leave the fan leaves on the bottom till they drop off, as I said before they take on most of the "heat"...