johnnytoobad
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what happens when u continually cut fan leaves on a plant from seedling? can it still grow? i got 13 im gonna experiment on. cutting them so they look "different". has ne body done this? thank you to all who answer
Cutting fan leaves
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nick88
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The fan leaves are what absorbs 90 percent of light and also released the toxins that the plants build up while growing.
The fan leaves are basically like solar panels. You take them away and you take away the energy from the plant.
Some types of grows trim the bottom leaves due to the fact they have trained and lst'd their plants for a canopy where mostly the top half of plant is only being utilized.
The fan leaves are basically like solar panels. You take them away and you take away the energy from the plant.
Some types of grows trim the bottom leaves due to the fact they have trained and lst'd their plants for a canopy where mostly the top half of plant is only being utilized.
irishstaff
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If you cut fan leafs make sure you leave the 4 top set of leafs intact ,
I cut fan leafs as i like nice fat top colas .
How far are your plants , ?
Are they still in veg or are they flowering ?
Have you got any pics .
Heres some pics of a couple of my plants.
Hope you like.
These are 3 weeks and 2 days in flower ,
I cut fan leafs as i like nice fat top colas .
How far are your plants , ?
Are they still in veg or are they flowering ?
Have you got any pics .
Heres some pics of a couple of my plants.
Hope you like.
These are 3 weeks and 2 days in flower ,
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Mikey Hustle
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Fan leaves are your solar panels.. I would try your experiment out, but dont fuck up your whole crop.
You never know for sure until you try. Ive fucked up more, just to know for myself.
Please keep us posted.
johnnytoobad
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nice answers gentlemen.... Im not cutting whole fan leaves off. I am cutting fan leaves down 50%. I have a partial shade group and a full sun group. and a non cut group and a short rider in a pot. so im all set. I hope to keep the growth compact small stunted weired out lst and femming and evrything man........dont worry some are gonna be left alone.......and we will see what happens.......
johnnytoobad
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thats what i want partner....i have a long grow season and the things were very indentifiable so im gonna screw around a little....if all gos well i will have some short straggly pot plants....keep yall posted......ok ok a update since i cut...24 hours since cut and the next set of leaves has taken off on all plants...(not the result i expected) and god damn if their not totally identifiable again. what are ur thoughts on the next 2 comin on so quick? (the leaves)
sickstoner
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i tryed it on my first grow slowed down growth so much it added a month to my vegging time i say leave her the fuck alone! if you want a lower growth spurt LST the bitches get the branching hormones working for ya.
johnnytoobad
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actually it seems as if new growth is coming on faster on the top. GENTLEMAN THERE WILL BE CASUALTIES. ive grown enuff pot normally and femmed and topped and trained but ive never really pushed the limits as all the plants were sewed to harvest. these experiments are expendable like a tampon and i plan on pushing limits for future grows and all around knowledge first hand of what more can i do to the bitches. stunting growth right now is a priority. i want a mature short not spoiled pot plant that looks weired out...could i get a bonzai outta this i wonder
sven deisel
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good 4 u for trying dif things if u didnt we would all be stuck in the stone age. i do the sea of green and i trim trim all the time to keep all my tops in the light been doing it for lots of years and it never hurts anything. they call them sucker leaves for a reason they suck up to much life cutting them off puts that life somewere else in the plant. another thing i have done for many years is in flower do ur lights at 36 on 12 off they only need 1 photo period every 2 days to flower light is energy. im not saying it will ripen them sooner but it will fatten them and sick amounts of trichs. u seem more open minded than most give it a try u wont disp
Uncle Ben
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Sheesh! With every new crop of newbies comes this same old tired question. Do a search using the terms "lollipopping" or "fan leaves".
Since some of you guys are determined to follow hype or "what ifs" rather than try to understand basic botanical principles, cut all the fan leaves off and be done with it!
UB
Since some of you guys are determined to follow hype or "what ifs" rather than try to understand basic botanical principles, cut all the fan leaves off and be done with it!
UB
johnnytoobad
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Damn Dog, what r u a pittbull? ha ha jus fuckin wit ya. ahhhh I aint no newb dog. ive been growing 8 years aight. and bro with the 36 on 12 off i did see a friend do that and its awesome def. i can manipulate a pot plant.....all these reads all these journals and stickys. man aint a one of them touch on this shit. I have full on "groupings" this aint some newb kook experiment. this is a seasoned grower pushing the limits to create something new......Remember i may not be tellin all my secrets because i do have a hypothesis in mind. so any ways when i get my own bonzai pot ill be sure to go back thru this thread and see who was ahhhhhhhh jus fuckin round some more.... its all good, besides 2 to 4 inches of rain today
bobsgreen
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Hate to disagree but I'm pretty sure the basic botanical principle is photosynthesis..those leaves are solar panels and are performing the basic botanical principle: carbon dioxide + water + light energy = glucose + oxygen..show me the scientific principle that a nice green leaf takes life from the plant..Its just like a tomato plant..you cut the suckers you get slightly bigger tomatoes but your overall yield goes down..I try for an even layer of medium size nugs vs one giant cola with a giant stem..different things work differently in different gardens so stick with what you find works best for you..but I'm pretty sure that the basic botanical principles are on the side of not trimming
CLOSETGROWTH
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Ok Uncle Ben, and whoever else is completely knowledgeable in this subject.
Question= If a big fan leaf is covering a bud site on the top of a plant, would the bud still be able to grow since no real light is shining on it?
Would the bud be smaller without the fan leaf? Or bigger with it on??
Yes? No?
It just doesnt seem possible for a plant "to bud at a site" with a huge fan leaf blocking all of the light
Ive wondered about this for 10 years.
Personally, I remove em if there blocking a juicy bud site.
+rep for an experienced answer, and or a logical explanation. Or better yet someone who has experimented with this stuff. Thx
to sum up this long outstanding debate finally i will release the technical theories that the botonical scientist at nasa know. the large fan leaves at the top that the stem is standing upwards are called fan leaves the ones with the stems going downward are called shade leaves, these large leaves feed the growth of the plant by collecting solar energy. you can pinch the shade leaves out thus promoting inner growth.
as to your question. everytime the leaf reaches full size snip it off . what you will end up with is a plant with 1000 leaves. but your growing for buds. and the leaves will block out all budsites. there is a natural ratio of sun leaves, shade leaves bang leaves and fan leaves vs bud sites. its very complex mathematical system but to break it down further.
sun leaves are at the top of the plant unopened leaves basically immature leaves that in a week will open and be fan leaves. in time fan leaves. 2 nodes down from the sun leaves now. will become shade leaves folding down to catch sideway light . and then eventually losing all their chlorifil and becoming bang leaves. at this time the plant will retract its interests in the leaf and section it off for disposal. all these leaves that fall are then returned to (n) the ground. just my observations of the horticulture
as to your question. everytime the leaf reaches full size snip it off . what you will end up with is a plant with 1000 leaves. but your growing for buds. and the leaves will block out all budsites. there is a natural ratio of sun leaves, shade leaves bang leaves and fan leaves vs bud sites. its very complex mathematical system but to break it down further.
sun leaves are at the top of the plant unopened leaves basically immature leaves that in a week will open and be fan leaves. in time fan leaves. 2 nodes down from the sun leaves now. will become shade leaves folding down to catch sideway light . and then eventually losing all their chlorifil and becoming bang leaves. at this time the plant will retract its interests in the leaf and section it off for disposal. all these leaves that fall are then returned to (n) the ground. just my observations of the horticulture
DaveCoulier
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There's so much fail in this post, and this thread. So much, that this thread should be deleted as well as some of the poster's accounts.